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PhilipB said:
Brandao wasn't hit with a "glancing" blow, it was straight on the chin.

Anyway, McGregor fighting on the Mexico UFC 180 card on Nov.15 against Diego Sanchez at 155lbs!
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I dunno. It was kind of glancing, if you ask me.

The whole end of that fight did look a little suspect. I think Brandao actually gave up after a punch to his liver but the replays didn't make much of it and you can see why people might be kind of suspicious. Looked like he ready to throw himself on the ground before that punch connected.

Don't get me wrong. I think he won both those fights, fair and square but I can definitely see why the finishes added fuel to the fire about him being handed easy victories as he's doing such a great job selling PPV.
 
Pogue Mahone said:


I dunno. It was kind of glancing, if you ask me.

The whole end of that fight did look a little suspect. I think Brandao actually gave up after a punch to his liver but the replays didn't make much of it and you can see why people might be kind of suspicious. Looked like he ready to throw himself on the ground before that punch connected.

Don't get me wrong. I think he won both those fights, fair and square but I can definitely see why the finishes added fuel to the fire about him being handed easy victories as he's doing such a great job selling PPV.
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That makes no sense at all. Anybody seriously thinks a fighter like Brandao would just give McGregor an easy victory because he's bringing in some buyrates? I mean seriously, what? It's not even a discussion, it's one of the most ridiculous things I've heard in a long time.
 
JP77 said:
That makes no sense at all. You seriously think a fighter like Brandao would just give McGregor an easy victory because he's bringing in some buyrates? I mean seriously, what?
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Try reading my posts before responding ffs.

No, I do not think that.

I'm explaining why others might do, the obvious implication being that Brandao or Poirier would "just give" McGregor the win in exchange for a hefty pay-off. A transaction that might make sense if the UFC wanted to keep their golden boy as a title contender for as long as possible. The conversation started with this post:

Randall Flagg said:
Mcgregor has now officlally beaten a top contender and there are still doubts from what I'm reading on Twitter and mma websites
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Obviously (and I'm stating this for the third time) that's not my own take on what happened.
 
Pogue Mahone said:


I dunno. It was kind of glancing, if you ask me.

The whole end of that fight did look a little suspect. I think Brandao actually gave up after a punch to his liver but the replays didn't make much of it and you can see why people might be kind of suspicious. Looked like he ready to throw himself on the ground before that punch connected.

Don't get me wrong. I think he won both those fights, fair and square but I can definitely see why the finishes added fuel to the fire about him being handed easy victories as he's doing such a great job selling PPV.
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If you think that the McGregor wins were setup then you are really stupid mate. white text
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Try reading my posts before responding ffs.

No, I do not think that.

I'm explaining why others might do, the obvious implication being that Brandao or Poirier would "just give" McGregor the win in exchange for a hefty pay-off. A transaction that might make sense if the UFC wanted to keep their golden boy as a title contender for as long as possible. The conversation started with this post:



Obviously (and I'm stating this for the third time) that's not my own take on what happened.
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I edited because I skimmed and then realised you didn't say that, calm down.

You're still giving it the time of day and bringing it into discussion. It's the most ridiculous thing I've read in a while. Poirier and Brandao took a pay-off? Dear oh dear.
 
JP77 said:
I edited because I skimmed and then realised you didn't say that, calm down.

You're still giving it the time of day and bringing it into discussion. It's the most ridiculous thing I've read in a while. Poirier and Brandao took a pay-off? Dear oh dear.
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A guy in my office who has little or no interest in MMA until McGregor came along said to me that he was suspicous of both his last fights

I dont believe it for a moment, but some do
 
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Randall Flagg said:
I guy in my office who has little or no interest in MMA until McGregor came along said to me that he was suspicous of both his last fights

I dont believe it for a moment, but some do
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Oh no doubt, not trying to argue that there's people that truly believe it, I mean there's still nutters out there that think Tupac and Elvis are still alive. It's similar to when people thought the Silva/Griffin fight was fixed just because Silva completely mauled him. You get all sorts of idiots saying all sorts of stupid stuff, I don't even waste my time giving it the time of the day. It's even more baffling that these people single out two guys like Brandao and Poirier as match fixers.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Would like to watch it again. The end of the fight was suspiciously easy.
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To be fair Pogue, you did question the result in a way that suggested you thought Brandao threw it. And you keep talking about glancing blows, Brandao didn't get hit with a glancing blow that made him turtle up on the ground.
 
PhilipB said:
To be fair Pogue, you did question the result in a way that suggested you thought Brandao threw it. And you keep talking about glancing blows, Brandao didn't get hit with a glancing blow that made him turtle up on the ground.
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Jaysus, lads. You're really making me work hard here.

Here's what I said. Focus on the bits in bold:

I dunno. It was kind of glancing, if you ask me.

The whole end of that fight did look a little suspect. I think Brandao actually gave up after a punch to his liver but the replays didn't make much of it and you can see why people might be kind of suspicious. Looked like he was ready to throw himself on the ground before that punch connected.

Don't get me wrong. I think he won both those fights, fair and square...
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My whole point was always about how people might be mistaken by the way those finishes looked. I never for one moment suggested I thought he'd thrown it. Just that it might look that way. I was only ever trying to explain to @Randall Flagg why some people might have got the wrong impression. Some people. Not me.

It's a simple point I'm making really. In a lot of KOs/TKOs you can see really vicious punches and kicks landing, where there's absolutely no doubt that they got KTFO. Neither of McGregor's last two fights fit into that category, hence the conspiracy theories.

With Brandao, the shots that really did the damage (a kick and a left to the liver IMHO) didn't get highlighted enough in the replays. Instead, the interweb is full of gifs of Brandao looking ready to lie down before he gets clipped with a not particularly brutal left hook. With Poirier, the shot that knocked him down also wasn't a very clean contact (although thanks to McGregor's freakishly heavy hands, it was still enough to knock him down)

I'm only talking about superficial appearances. Doesn't make the results any less legit. That goes without saying.
 
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.Rossi said:
"We haven't heard the last of Rick Story, let's hear it for Rick Story. Give us a smile Gunner"

Absolute shithouse of a shambles :lol::lol:
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:lol: Yeah, mindblowing that he didn't even try to correct himself. You could see in his eyes that he knew he fecked up.
 
Earthquake said:
That's why he's not left on the proper shows.

I mean, Rogan could do it, but least you'd know he was stoned or something...
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:lol:

I still laugh at Rogan calling himself a retard after he messed up in a post fight interview.

Gunnar looked quite poor, I thought. Wonder if he goes down to 155 now, Story is not the biggest 170 and Gunnar looked a bit weak against him. Imagine it was Rory Macdonald or Lombard or Tyron Woodly standing there, Gunnar just seems a bit small for that weight class. Even in his last fight, Zak Cummins was a lot bigger.
 
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