The MMA thread

PhilipB said:
How much of an effect would his age have on his recovery time? He's never going to fight again, I guess, I just read a story about a similar fracture and it was two years before they could run and even then it hurt a little.
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His career is definately over. How old is he? 34? 36?
 
PhilipB said:
38! Ah yeah it's definitely over, was just curious how long it even takes to return to normal from something like that.
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A kid who plays basketball for Louisville broke his leg like that last year in the NCAA tournament. He's playing again.
 
Sir Matt said:
A kid who plays basketball for Louisville broke his leg like that last year in the NCAA tournament. He's playing again.
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Would age have much of an effect though?

Also, we must kill this guy

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The leg wont heal anytime soon and even if he were to make a proud comeback one day, his opponents would know where to kick him. He should definitely retire. He'll go down as a GOAT without an argument and has nothing left to prove.
 
Earthquake said:
Longest fight ever, quickest armbar tap ever. :lol:
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Also there was a quick arm bar earlier in the fight which she got out of, same arm I think. May have felt that again

Horrible injury for Silva, knew instantly it snapped. My arm snapped like that and its beyond painful and can imagine a leg would hurt more. Also the fact I was loaded on alcohol helped me. I can't see Silva coming back after that unfortunately and I don't think he'll want to.
 
What a sad end.

Brilliant event but terrible way for Silva to finish his career.

And Weidman will still have question marks over his status as champion.
 
There's not much you can say about that finish. When it happened I didn't even realise it was as bad as it was. They showed the replays and it was fecking shocking. That's Silva done. Would of been interesting to see what they actually had lined up for him had he come away from this in full health, win or lose.

Great from Rousey. Basically outfought Tate in every area. Showed she can stand and bang, showed she can take a shot and went a good distance too.

Dana announced that Rousey will now face McMann at 170 in February. Massive fight and the one that I wanted to see the most. McMann without a doubt in my mind poses the biggest challenge out of all the women right now for Rousey.

Edit: Apparently surgery was successful and it wouldn't be as long of a time recovering as first expected (someone mentioned about 6 months).
 
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Shouldn't laugh really but concerned Jimmy really makes me laugh in this picture.
 
Seeing someone break their leg is one of the most gruesome things you can experience.

How did Silva broke his leg because it's hard to envisage how it happened. He has gone to left kick Weidmann and this has been blocked. How does that result in a break? Sounds bizarre from the write ups
 
Raoul said:
The leg wont heal anytime soon and even if he were to make a proud comeback one day, his opponents would know where to kick him. He should definitely retire. He'll go down as a GOAT without an argument and has nothing left to prove.
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Not sure about that. He'll go down as the GOAT, but I still think there'll be question marks over him and Weidman. Is Weidman better? I still don't think so but we'll never know. He might like to prove once and for all that he is better than him (which I thought he'd do yesterday). Sadly I think it's spells the end for him now. Coming back from that at his age to win would be an unbelievable comeback.
 
I don't think anyone thinks Weidman is better in fairness. Silva at his best is the GOAT.

There are question marks over both his wins. He will need a nice clean win over Vitor Belfort to make me a real believer.

He is also so fecking boring as far as personality is concerned, not fair to judge him on that I know but I hope Vitor destroys him.
 
Randall Flagg said:
I don't think anyone thinks Weidman is better in fairness. Silva at his best is the GOAT.

There are question marks over both his wins. He will need a nice clean win over Vitor Belfort to make me a real believer.

He is also so fecking boring as far as personality is concerned, not fair to judge him on that I know but I hope Vitor destroys him.
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I do. At the moment, I think Weidman is better than Silva, he's just so well rounded. Despite how the fights ended, we shouldn't ignore the fact that he was very dominant against Silva, rocking him a few times in the process. Silva at his peak probably would have handled him, but I get the impression he was a bit past it, it's like his first fight against Sonnen made him human again. Will righfully go down as the best MMA fighter ever but I'm sad to see him go out like that.
 
Ole'sbodyguard said:
Seeing someone break their leg is one of the most gruesome things you can experience.

How did Silva broke his leg because it's hard to envisage how it happened. He has gone to left kick Weidmann and this has been blocked. How does that result in a break? Sounds bizarre from the write ups
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No, it's not.
 
As for Silva, I can't see him ever coming back. I can't imagine he was thinking of carrying on for much longer after this fight anyway. This has almost certainly done it for him.
 
George Owen said:
still shocked :(


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6 months recovery + 6 months intense training. He could be back next December for a final assault.
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He'll prove himself to be one brave motherfecker if he does choose to return. Footballers have a hard enough time coming back to the game after a leg break, due to the psychologicalimpact. For an MMA fighter it must be a great deal harder because you can expect to take dozens of blows to the leg during the course of a fight.
 
rednev said:
He'll prove himself to be one brave motherfecker if he does choose to return. Footballers have a hard enough time coming back to the game after a leg break, due to the physiological impact. For an MMA fighter it must be a great deal harder because you can expect to take dozens of blows to the leg during the course of a fight.
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for sure, its gonna be tough. But a super fighter like Silva is probably much stronger mentally than a football player, or the average person. I'm sure he can beat the mental scar generated by his injury. His physical damage will heal completely so i guess he will ask himself "I'm still good enough for these young fighters?", and depending on the answer retire or come back. How awesome would be that (him coming back for one last fight)?
 
Anderson Silva is strong mentally. I think that's been shown over the years, especially against Chael, when it seemed like the UFC was against him.
 
My friend says only he and Jon Jones were/are world class fighters GSP was never on their level and definitely isn't now. The leg break was awful and it reminded me of Ramsey, Eduardo and Kevin Ware (an American college player). Considering how long it to Ramsey to get back to his best ad teh fact Eduardo never really did. A shame for a great career to end like this.
 
In a statement released by the UFC, orthopedic surgery Dr. Steven Sanders performed the operation:

The successful surgery inserted an intramedullary rod into Anderson’s left tibia. The broken fibula was stabilized and does not require a separate surgery.
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JaffyJoe said:
My friend says only he and Jon Jones were/are world class fighters GSP was never on their level and definitely isn't now. The leg break was awful and it reminded me of Ramsey, Eduardo and Kevin Ware (an American college player). Considering how long it to Ramsey to get back to his best ad teh fact Eduardo never really did. A shame for a great career to end like this.
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Your friend is talking absolute shit mate.
 
I would say that Jones and Silva are the best two fighters I've seen in the octagon. So, in a way, they are 'above' everyone else. But where you draw the line at 'world class' or whatever term you want is arbitrary.

Was Matt Hughes world class? He sure seemed to be at the time. And GSP handled him.

Of course the sport is evolving, but GSP was the best fighter in the world at one point, for a good while, that's good enough for me.
 
Anderson Silva's gruesome leg injury may have ended UFC 168 on a disastrous note. But according to the doctor who operated on Silva late Saturday night, the former UFC middleweight champion's future isn't nearly as bleak as many observers initially believed.
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"The minute I saw it and recognized it, I knew it was fixable," Dr. Steven Sanders, an orthopedic surgeon for the UFC, said Monday.
"We are not even 48 hours from the surgery, and tibia fractures, though we can get them to heal, can have slower healing. So in general, my prognosis would be a fracture healing somewhere in the nature of three to six months. But there's also soft tissue components that have to heal, and then of course a rehabilitative process as well."
Following the injury, Silva's leg was stabilized inside the Octagon by Dr. Anthony Ruggeroli, "who immediately realigned the limb and applied traction." Silva was then transported to a local hospital, where he underwent successful emergency surgery.
Sanders anticipates that if all goes as planed, Silva will be able to return to training within six to nine months -- which is a good thing, considering that the question was apparently one of the first things on the former champ's mind Saturday night.
"In the pre-op area, his questions were, ‘When can I train?'" Sanders said.
"He asked me in the pre-op area, ‘When can I train?' And he has asked me every time, when I see him on my rounds, he asks: ‘Will I be able to train? When can I train?' And I have always indicated to him that he should be able train."
Silva suffered the injury when Chris Weidman checked a leg kick midway through the second round of the pair's main event rematch at UFC 168. The inside of Weidman's left knee collided with Silva's shin, instantly snapping the bone and twisting Silva's shin into a macabre 'C.'
"In terms of the severity of the injury, it was, I would say, fairly severe," Sanders said. Nonetheless Sanders later added that for however grisly Silva's injury may have been, it was "extremely close" to being much worse.
"Fortunately for Anderson, the skin did not break," Sanders said. "But where could an injury like that go? An injury like that could go where, as I mentioned, the skin breaks, and now you've got this exposed bone in the environment of an Octagon, and so his risk of infection goes up meteorically. He could have also twisted in such a different direction where he could've potentially lacerated an artery going to the foot, in which case you now have what we call vascular compromise. He could've, in that case, potentially needed a vascular reconstructive procedure to reattach an artery.
"Injuries like this can, at times, even be limb threatening. If the fracture is severe enough, if it compromises vascular supply to the feet and vascular supply cannot be reestablished, it can result in an amputation."
Initial speculation after witnessing the 38-year-old fall victim to such a gruesome injury was that Silva's career had come to an end. Sanders, however, noted that due to the nature of the injury, Silva's age will not play a role in recovery. Sanders also saw very little evidence that Silva's leg had been damaged prior to the break.
In addition, once the fracture is healed, Sanders expects the leg to return to full strength, and due a titanium rod doctors surgically inserted into Silva's left tibia, to not be at risk for further damage.
"In this particular case, you had a bad fracture occur. Fortunately it occurred outside the joints," Sanders said.
"So having occurred outside the joint, when the fracture heals, the bone will reassume its original strength. In addition to it achieving its original strength, [Silva] will also have a titanium rod that is 11.5 millimeters in diameter shoring up that area as well."
Silva's right leg is currently encased in a posterior splint. Sanders expects that within a few weeks, Silva will begin being able to put increased pressure on his leg.
Once both the fracture and soft tissue heal, Silva will begin a steady rehabilitation process, which Sanders expects will "not need to be as intense as we generally talk about when fighters injure ligaments, say, in the knee -- so the expectation is positive.
"He is using crutches. We also have a walker available for him," Sanders added.
"We've made both available to him. And again, I always mention that he's only 48 hours, less than 48 hours, from a devastating injury. I have seen him up on crutches -- and it's amazing, because I don't know if I would be able to do it that quickly."
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Pretty cool!
 
Would love to see him come back, would take a severe pair of balls to throw kicks again though.

Do you think we might see part 3 of this?
 
Randall Flagg said:
Would love to see him come back, would take a severe pair of balls to throw kicks again though.

Do you think we might see part 3 of this?
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If he is asking when he can train, that must be hopeful right? Personally I would love to see a part 3, Weidman may have meant to check those leg kicks and practiced them over and over again but it was still a fluke to win like that.
 
He nearly ended Silva in the first round when he hurt him, we can never know for sure but for me Weidman proved himself already. A 3rd fight should take place if Silva earns it again showing hes completely recovered. Sick break though, holy shit
 
Anderson Silva has undergone surgery on his broken left leg, and his doctor believes the former UFC middleweight champion could fight again after the grotesque injury.

Before Silva was taken in for surgery, he had fighting on his mind. "In the pre-op area, his questions were: `When can I train? When can I train?"' Sanders said Monday.

Silva has repeated his questions during every meeting with Sanders since the surgery. Although it's too early for firm dates, Sanders believes Silva's broken leg will heal within the next six months, and the former champion could conceivably be back in the gym within 6-9 months of the injury.

Silva clearly hasn't resigned himself to retirement after his second straight loss to Weidman following a near seven-year unbeaten run in the UFC.

"I have always indicated to him that he should be able to train," Sanders said.

Sanders was grateful Silva's broken bones didn't tear any major blood vessels or break the skin, which could have invited infection.

"In terms of the severity of the injury, it was fairly severe," Sanders said. "But I can give examples of worse-case scenarios of what could have happened.

Sanders expects Silva's broken bones to regain their original strength, although the titanium rod could remain in Silva's leg permanently. Silva may begin weight-bearing rehabilitation whenever the pain in his leg subsides.

Silva is resting with his family in Las Vegas, and is already trying to walk on crutches. He posted an old photo of himself with his wife and children to his Twitter account Sunday, giving thanks to his fans and saying he "will be better soon, now I need to be with my family."

 
Trt belfort will decapitate Weidman if he is granted an exemption. The New Belfort with the Mohawk, vein popping physique and the aggression looks too much to handle. Knocking out Bisping, Rockhold and Hendo within 2 rounds is quite an achievement. He has been training with Rashad Evans and other elite kickboxers from. Blackzilians and you can see clear improvement in his fighting since the Jones fight. This will great to watch.
 
Luiz Dutra is a fecking moron. To firstly deliver elbows like that to the back of the head and then to actually have the front to act like they weren't illegal. About as fecking obvious of a DQ you'll see.
 
WHAT A MAIN EVENT!

feck me people were shitting on this card but it was worth it for that alone. Take a fecking bow Lim.
 
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