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Nasty leg kicks from Barboza here.
Nasty is right!
wow, knocked dafuq out !!!
There was a fight there for a moment.
Great knockout by Gonzaga.
I blame the fact that Herman has such a punchable face.
Predictions?? I think all of the fights on the main card can go either way. I was 51% Weidman at the start of the week, I've changed to about 51% Anderson. It could be a very similar fight to the first Sonnen fight. I can only imagine Weidman having the exact same game plan.
Anderson Silva v Chris Weidman
Silva to win by submission or knockout despite being dominated by the wrestler for most of the fight
Frankie Edgar v Charles Oliveira
Perhaps the biggest gap in quality on the card. Edgar on points.
Tim Kennedy v Roger Gracie
Kennedy to win unless Gracie can get a submission
Mark Munoz v Tim Boetsch
Munoz to win on points.
Cub Swanson v Denis Siver
Looking forward to this. Siver by knockout. Anything could happen in this one.
Usually I only get 2 right!
Anderson Silva v Chris Weidman
Silva to win by submission or knockout despite being dominated by the wrestler for most of the fight
Frankie Edgar v Charles Oliveira
Perhaps the biggest gap in quality on the card. Edgar on points.
Tim Kennedy v Roger Gracie
Kennedy to win unless Gracie can get a submission
Mark Munoz v Tim Boetsch
Munoz to win on points.
Cub Swanson v Denis Siver
Looking forward to this. Siver by knockout. Anything could happen in this one.
Usually I only get 2 right!
True. He reminds me of someone but I can't remember who, but I know he has a punchable face also.
Wow, didn't take that slightly seriously, and got laid the feck out for it.
Hahahaha
Well that was stupid.
He's retiring?
He threw it to retire, imo. If he made money on the betting, it could be a legal issue.
Or some kind of "winding down". Says he's not retiring.
Holy Shit.
Holy.fecking.Shit
I'm in shock, what have I just seen?
I'm going to bed shocked, toodles.
Holy.fecking.Shit
I'm in shock, what have I just seen?
I'm going to bed shocked, toodles.
Hahaha, nothing funnier than seeing someone with their hands down messing about get knocked the feck out.
Big future stars just stepped up. Cub Swanson is amazing and a real joy to watch.
Charles Oliveira / Held his own against an always great Frankie Edgar
And Weidman....! There was a lot of hype there but oh man, it was justified. Silva disrespected his power and paid for it with a nap on the canvas.
Made a massive statement tonight, I've got the feeling this man will hold on to that belt for a very, very long time. Especially if Silva "Won't fight for it."
What the hell was that all about? Was I so baked that I couldn't make sense of it or does his brain just not handle knockouts too well?
I don't know what the hell he's talking about, there was something really weird about it, anyone think it could be possible that he'll move to another weight class?
That along with the announcement GSP was going to make at the press conference made me really curious. It woud be the fight that everyone always waited for, fingers crossed.
Charles Oliveira / Held his own against an always great Frankie Edgar
And Weidman....! There was a lot of hype there but oh man, it was justified. Silva disrespected his power and paid for it with a nap on the canvas.
Made a massive statement tonight, I've got the feeling this man will hold on to that belt for a very, very long time. Especially if Silva "Won't fight for it."
What the hell was that all about? Was I so baked that I couldn't make sense of it or does his brain just not handle knockouts too well?
I don't know what the hell he's talking about, there was something really weird about it, anyone think it could be possible that he'll move to another weight class?
That along with the announcement GSP was going to make at the press conference made me really curious. It woud be the fight that everyone always waited for, fingers crossed.
Silva is the greatest ever, not a single doubt about it. Dana got it spot on in the post conference, IF he didn't clip Silva and Silva went on to win, everybody would be saying "HOLY SHIT!" and how incredible it was. Sure, it didn't work out and so now some are "What a clown!", but the reality is that nobody can go out and do what this guy does. Nobody. The crazy thing is that nine times out of ten, it works for him, so while people can sit and say now "What a stupid thing to do", he's done it before to great success and in MMA, no matter what gameplan you use, anything can happen.
Maybe the most bizarre finish/fight I've seen, just a massive "Holy shit" moment. It's quite incredible how good the guy is mentally too. Weidman comes in, takes him down and Silva get's back up. Silva then goes on to completely get into his head and keep him standing. Just mental. Just hope we get to see the guy fight again.
Maybe the most bizarre finish/fight I've seen, just a massive "Holy shit" moment. It's quite incredible how good the guy is mentally too. Weidman comes in, takes him down and Silva get's back up. Silva then goes on to completely get into his head and keep him standing. Just mental. Just hope we get to see the guy fight again.
What a tit. Great fighter (maybe the best ever) but he's had that coming for a while.Very pissed off with that. Love silva and didn't want his record to end.
A few people saying he threw the fight? But he has done similar loads of times before. He actually seemed relieved almost that he is no longer the champ.
A few people saying he threw the fight? But he has done similar loads of times before. He actually seemed relieved almost that he is no longer the champ.
Aye, perhaps his remaining fights will all be more fun for him/less pressure, with more of this style of feckery.
What a stupid way to lose your title.
It's almost suspect.
That betting issue must surely raise its head - he must have made a killing if he did bet against himself.
I do take on board he's done things like that in the cage before, but there's fooling, and then there's simply not caring, and he just seemed to be leaning too much to the latter.
His comments afterward are even weirder.
It's almost suspect.
That betting issue must surely raise its head - he must have made a killing if he did bet against himself.
I do take on board he's done things like that in the cage before, but there's fooling, and then there's simply not caring, and he just seemed to be leaning too much to the latter.
His comments afterward are even weirder.
Nah, he didnt throw it. The number of times he showboats in matches, he was bound to get caught once by a power hit. His eyes rolling to the back of his head as he gets caught is just hilarious though.
Shame as I wanted to see a undefeated Jones vs undefeated in the octagon Silva. Match could still happen and will probably still be great, but that aura of invincibility for both is gone. (well gone for Silva)
Shame as I wanted to see a undefeated Jones vs undefeated in the octagon Silva. Match could still happen and will probably still be great, but that aura of invincibility for both is gone. (well gone for Silva)
Wiedman just didn't fall for the mental traps Silva was trying to set for him. Almost all the other fighters (perhaps with exception of Sonnen) fell for his showboating and antics and that was enough for Silva to finish the fights (best example is the Forrest fight, I think Forrest has taken much harder shots than the one that finished him against Silva, but it was the mental game that fecked Forrest up, the punch just gave him an early excuse to end his really uncomfortable and awkward night against Anderson). Weidman's ability to stay composed and not get bamboozled by Silva's usually highly effective mental game was what won him the fight. This makes the prospect of the rematch even more enticing now that Anderson knows Weidman's not gonna be beat by through mental ploys (based on the post-fight presser, there will very likely be a rematch).
Munoz looked really solid tonight as well in his demolition of Boetch. Edgar and Swanson should fight next with the winner getting a shot at the featherweight title.
Munoz looked really solid tonight as well in his demolition of Boetch. Edgar and Swanson should fight next with the winner getting a shot at the featherweight title.
Ha! I've finally just watched the fight. Silva is such an idiot. I'm still laughing about it.
The feeling I got in this particular fight is that he didn't care. Sure, it could just be a case of flagrant disrespect, and he's certainly done that before, but his antics this time around just seemed OTT, even for Anderson Silva.
It's such a shit way for him to end his run as a champion as well. The whole thing is bizarre.
I'm not sure how you can say that - he caught him with a lucky shot and prior to that he was playing Silva's game rather than his own. It was quite clear he was agitated and riled up and deviated from what should have been his gameplan of shooting and wrestling to go into a mano e mano fist fight with a far, far superior striker.
None of that matters now though, beings as he caught Silva in the end and won the 'fight'
It would be an interesting exercise to find out how many people would give Wiedman any chance in a rematch with an angry and hungry Silva - there wouldn't be many, I don't think.
I'm sorry, but in my eyes there is no way in hell Silva wanted to win this fight.
From the minute he got in the cage he basically invited Weidman onto him, he hardly attacked him back at all and when he did it was with hardly any force. His clowning was purely just to get a reaction so that Weidman would take him out.
Sure people say that Anderson would showboat in fights - which is true, but never to the extend of him playing possum and pretending to be hurt by a punch.
In my opinion he clearly wanted to lose this fight. His talk after the fight only clarified this. 8 years of being a champion is a lot of pressure, and he wants to wind down and enjoy the time with his family.
He can now fight on his terms and enjoy it. The way it happened was almost a passing of the torch. I think he likes Weidman as a fighter and chose him as a worthy successor.
Ok sure people will say "no he was just a chump and got caught". Anderson Silva had never been caught before like that - even against much faster/better strikers than Weidman.
The fact that he practically give no offence aswell was another clear sign to me. He literally looked like he just wanted to lose.
Also if he was clearly just caught napping, you would think he would be jumping of the chance of a rematch. The fact he literally said no straight after the fight was just another sign he has had enough.
Either way it was a shit way for his reign to end. I hated the fight and the outcome.
It was a major kick in the stones to everyone that paid to see it, if Adam-Utd is right, not to mention people who stayed up until all hours to watch it.
That's not really true at all. It was still a "WHAT THE feck!" or "HOLY SHIT!" moment. It wasn't like the Maia fight or anything. Whether Silva fecked around or not, that was still bizarre, crazy and pretty damn entertaining too. And the rest of the card was quite good too.
I dunno. He did this against Maia and Cote. He kinda did this to a lesser extent against Griffin and Bonnar as well. I just dont think he was expecting he would get caught. He had stuffed a Weidman in that round which forced them both to stand. I dont think Silva threw the match or didnt want to fight. Considering its a five round fight, I think he would have gone for it after the initial showboating as he normally does.
There was a heavy brazillian contingent in the crowd and I think he was trying to put on a show for them. He was his normal arrogant self, he didnt leave his head to get caught. If he was going to throw the match, I dont think he would ensure he takes a shot from somebody in the UFC considering he could be leaving himself open to severe damage depending on how he gets caught.
There was a heavy brazillian contingent in the crowd and I think he was trying to put on a show for them. He was his normal arrogant self, he didnt leave his head to get caught. If he was going to throw the match, I dont think he would ensure he takes a shot from somebody in the UFC considering he could be leaving himself open to severe damage depending on how he gets caught.
Silva took a H-bombs from Henderson with no qualms. He took some serious hooks from the clinch position like a joke against Jorge Riviera as well. It's just weird he got dropped by a stray jab from Weidmann.
What an absolute load of bollocks. Of course he didn't want to lose. And certainly not like that.
Some of you are away with the fairies I'm afraid. He was doing his usual trick of trying to goad the opponent into opening up so he could counter and he got caught. Simple as that.
Some of you are genuinely suggesting he got knocked out on purpose?
He'll be back. He won't want to go out like that when he's had a few days/weeks to reflect.
Silva took a H-bombs from Henderson with no qualms. He took some serious hooks from the clinch position like a joke against Jorge Riviera as well. It's just weird he got dropped by a stray jab from Weidmann.
The difference there is he sees every single one of those punches coming. Knockouts don't work like that.
I agree and I bet Dana cant wait to book the rematch despite Silvas words. The number of questions on peoples mind like
-Is Weidmann a fluke
-Is Silva done
-What happens if Silva goes to fight
-Will Weidmann stand in a rematch or go to take him down
Basically what happens when Silva goes for a rematch and this time doesnt clown around.
-Is Weidmann a fluke
-Is Silva done
-What happens if Silva goes to fight
-Will Weidmann stand in a rematch or go to take him down
Basically what happens when Silva goes for a rematch and this time doesnt clown around.
This, I can't believe how anyone who has watched the fight can think that.Some of you are genuinely suggesting he got knocked out on purpose?
He got knocked the feck out for trying to showboat, plain and simple.
He should have kept going on the offense, you could clearly see he had the speed advantage and could have picked him apart like GSP did against Koscheck. Instead he acts like a pillock to try and ridicule his opponent.
I can't say I'm upset with the outcome just for that reason. Maybe shocked but certainly not upset.