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The feeling I got in this particular fight is that he didn't care. Sure, it could just be a case of flagrant disrespect, and he's certainly done that before, but his antics this time around just seemed OTT, even for Anderson Silva.

It's such a shit way for him to end his run as a champion as well. The whole thing is bizarre.


I'm not sure how you can say that - he caught him with a lucky shot and prior to that he was playing Silva's game rather than his own. It was quite clear he was agitated and riled up and deviated from what should have been his gameplan of shooting and wrestling to go into a mano e mano fist fight with a far, far superior striker.

None of that matters now though, beings as he caught Silva in the end and won the 'fight'

It would be an interesting exercise to find out how many people would give Wiedman any chance in a rematch with an angry and hungry Silva - there wouldn't be many, I don't think.

I think you're reading a bit too much into things; his antics doesn't mean he deliberately wanted to lose. If that were the case, he wouldn't have fought off Wiedman's attempts at takedown and would've capitulated in a more 'respectful manner' by letting Weidman take him down and submit him, rather than getting knocked out while clowning. His antics weren't that OTT; he had to go OTT a bit because Weidman wasn't being as easily and as much rattled as the likes of Forrest who were defeated mentally much more easily.

Sure Weidman got thrown off his game with Silva's antics a bit, but he wasn't that rattled and agitated. To me it just seems like Silva's mental ploys didn't get into Weidman's head enough for him to pull off another Forrest/Bonnar win through antics. Weidman's simply on another level compared to these fighters, mentally and physically. In addition, Weidman also said himself that he expected Silva to do those antics and he had prepared for it by having guys do that kind of shit in training to mess with his head. It's just a case of Silva coming up against a much tougher opponent - mentally and physically - than he'd faced before.

You claim that Silva deliberately wanted to lose and yet, on the other hand, seem to suggest that Silva was doing quite well against Weidman (e.g. stuffing his take-downs, messing with his head, and only losing because of a 'lucky shot'). Classifying knock-outs as getting lucky is a bit bizarre to me, it does disservice to many great fighters. It's a major tool in the MMA. In fact, many would say Silva's submission of Sonnen was probably a luckier win than Weidman's KO of Silva given how badly Silva was getting beaten up in that first fight with Sonnen.
 
What an absolute load of bollocks. Of course he didn't want to lose. And certainly not like that.

Some of you are away with the fairies I'm afraid. He was doing his usual trick of trying to goad the opponent into opening up so he could counter and he got caught. Simple as that.

Some of you are genuinely suggesting he got knocked out on purpose? :lol:

He'll be back. He won't want to go out like that when he's had a few days/weeks to reflect.

Why is it so strange to understand?.

Silva has had enough of being champion - the pressure and commitment of it was taking a toll on his private life, he wanted out of the limelight.

The greatest MMA fighter of the last 10 years, and you honestly think he would lose his title "by accident" by clowning around like an idiot?. Unless he has gone completely batshit crazy, there is no way he would have disrespected Weidman like that. Sure he has dropped his hands and used his speed / feints to create counter attacking opportunity before, but never to the extend that he stood there wobbling around pretending to be dizzy.

All I know is that if Silva REALLY wanted to win that fight, he would not have done that. He might have done it once but when caught properly knuckled down. Not once in that fight did he even look to me like he cared about winning.
 
:lol: @ lost by accident. Yes, that's how you normally lose.

Ok I'll humour you. Genuine question - you've had enough of fighting and all the pressures that come with it. Do you

a) retire with a record 10 fight title defence streak and your aura intact

Or

b) allow yourself to be knocked out cold in quite comical circumstances in front of millions of people?

Hmmmmmm.....
 
You can drop the belt at anytime you know.......unconventional, but so is losing stupidly.

Silva thought he could win by pissing about like he always does......the Sonnen fight was the real wake up call, but he still won that, and probably in his mind felt he was always control in it. Wouldn't be overly surprised to see him do the same shit if they did do a rematch, because he just seems stubborn like that. When was the last time he went into a fight that he actually fought any other way in? This fight isn't some anomaly. I guess he hasn't "really wanted" to win in like 5 years then.
 
Adam... I don't know where to start...

Do you honestly believe he threw that fight?! He was undefeated for 6 years ffs, do you honestly believe he'd rather go out like an idiot instead of an undefeated champion? Your admiration for the guy is really clouding your judgement.

Seriously, I'm sure there are lots of people who think like you aswell. Poor Weidman...
 
Now moving on to Weidman. Who will fight him next? Assuming its Vitor, what chance does he have against him? Will Vitor get a TRT exemption in the states.

Personally, I think Vitor will destroy Weidmann.
 
Where the hell is Philip by the way, I can't believe he didn't comment on this fight yet. He must have died or something, surely?
 
First, Weidman will beat Silva again and he'll retain his belt for a very long time I think.

I think there are a lot more people that could beat Weidman that there are who could beat Silva. There are a lot of top quality wrestlers who could definitely match Weidman and negate his attributes. If Hendo could get a shot, that would be very interesting. If Chael could somehow wrangle another shot, then he'd gave a decent chance.

If Anderson doesn't take the rematch, then surely Belfort is next. If Weidman v Belfort was on tomorrow, personally I would bet on Belfort.
 
Silva and Weidman will fight again before the year's out.

Personally I'm looking forward to that more than the last one. It's always interesting to see how someone comes back after a loss like that. Weidman will be even more confident too.

I expect quite a different fight though.
 
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I dont know why people are saying Silva wanted to lose. He does this shit all the time and it was about time he got caught. If they fought again and Silva actually concentrated, he would probably win. Either way, I dont care, I'm jsut happy he got taught a lesson for being so disrespectful
 
Agreed, he thought he was invincible because he hadn't been knocked out/lost despite his clowning/showboating in such a long time. People sometimes believe in their own myth when they're constantly told they're the GOAT; but the reality is that anyone can lose if they're not careful enough against world class opposition; you don't need to make up excuses or look for alternate explanations such as losing deliberately in such comical fashion. My money would be on Silva winning in a rematch if he cuts the crap out and doesn't act stupid as much as he did in the first fight
 
Well Silva wants the rematch now. Clearly the words of a man who wanted to lose the first fight in the way he did lol
 
Well hollllyyyyyyy feck, that was amazing. I've been avoiding all news of Anderson vs Weidman for ages, managed to not get it ruined. fecking awesome, I really can't wait to see the rematch. Couple of thing impressed me:

Weidman getting that early takedown and delivering big shots to Anderson on the ground. I think that had him pretty worried and why he tried to force a stand up fight. Also, Weidman giving up top control and diving onto one of Anderson's legs and getting it straight into a kneebar/heel hook. Thought that pretty much showed that Weidman was telling the truth when he said he wasn't scared him. The whole card was brilliant, I thought. Cub vs Siver was great and Barboza's leg kicks, fecking hell. For some reason, I find that the hardest thing to watch when you see someone getting brutalised like that. It looks worse than most KO's, for me. Aldo vs Faber was hard to watch for the same reason (Well not hard to watch, just made your toes curl a bit).
 
Awesome that he has gone for a rematch, was getting worried he had semi-retired with the shit he was saying to Joe after the fight. I reckon it will be immense and I fancy him to win it quite comfortably

Not too arsed on the Rousey/Tate co-main event tho, still not really interested in women's mma
 
Yeah fair enough if you like it, just doesnt interest me
 
There's a random video of him and Conor McGregor driving around Las Vegas in his Ferrari as well. He's probably a dick unless you're on his good side but I still think he's brilliant either way.

Oh, he's a dick alright, but an entertaining one. Like Ibra.

Still, that interviewer was a bit of a bint, "We're broadcast on the internet." :lol:
 
Really looking forward to Mcdonald vs Ellenberger tonight.

That could be explosive. Ellenberger has been talking some serious shit in the build up.
 
Dana reckons Maconald will not have a problem fighting GSP. Remains to be seen but would be epic.