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George Owen said:
Who should be next if no rematch?

Colby or Jorge (and the chance for payback for thr 3 piece and a soda)?
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It really should be an immediate rematch, shouldn't it? Not only was the champion walking into this fight on a 19 fight win streak and had defeated Edwards previously, he was inarguably leading on the scorecards and was a minute and change from the win before getting caught.

If not, wouldn't you book Chimaev?
 
George Owen said:
Who should be next if no rematch?

Colby or Jorge (and the chance for payback for the 3 piece and a soda)?

Jorge would be Leon's best chance to make money and defend the title.
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No way Jorge deserves a shot. He has had two and was soundly beaten in both. Plus he was easily beaten by Colby.

Usman will get the rematch. I'd like to see Colby v Leon though, that would be interesting.
 
Raoul said:
Can't imagine no immediate rematch given how Usman was clearly winning comfortably before the kick.
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Ladron de redcafe said:
It really should be an immediate rematch, shouldn't it? Not only was the champion walking into this fight on a 19 fight win streak and had defeated Edwards previously, he was inarguably leading on the scorecards and was a minute and change from the win before getting caught.

If not, wouldn't you book Chimaev?
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Yeah, I thought there might be a chance for Dana to do something else, but he just said in the post fight conference, he wants the rematch on Wembley or something like that.

Had forgotten CHimaev. He needs to beat Nate first, hahah, but yeah, he will be fighting for the belt soon.
 
Name Changed said:
No way Jorge deserves a shot. He has had two and was soundly beaten in both. Plus he was easily beaten by Colby.

Usman will get the rematch. I'd like to see Colby v Leon though, that would be interesting.
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Absolutely. But business wise, would be the fight to make. The narrative is already there and Jorge is the biggest PPV star after Conor. Leon' would be smart to secure the bag while he can. Dana apparently not interested anyway.

Colby vs Leon would be definitely interesting.
 
George Owen said:
Absolutely. But business wise, would be the fight to make. The narrative is already there and Jorge is the biggest PPV star after Conor. Leon' would be smart to secure the bag while he can. Dana apparently not interested anyway.

Colby vs Leon would be definitely interesting.
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Except that Masvidal isn''t the same guy he was a few years ago. Edwards would win that one quite comfortably. The pre fight hype related to their previous spat would be underwhelming as well given Edwards' dry personality.
 
Raoul said:
Except that Masvidal isn''t the same guy he was a few years ago. Edwards would win that one quite comfortably. The pre fight hype related to their previous spat would be underwhelming as well given Edwards' dry personality.
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Another reason for Leon to push for that fight.



Jorge's manager started the campaign already :lol: Not happening, though, rightly so.




what a random fight for Tony to comeback.
 
Name Changed said:
Holy feck.
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Charlie Foley said:
Wow wow wow wow
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TrustInOle said:
Wooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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mu4c_20le said:
He needed a hail mary and he got it
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SirAnderson said:
Wow, what just happened. :eek: :eek: :eek:
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Ladron de redcafe said:
That was crazy. He looked a shadow of Usman and resigned to the decision loss and then that kick ends him the welterweight title and ends Kamaru's streak.
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George Owen said:
Wooowwww

what a fecking KO
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That was sick. Slept the pound for pound king with a clean headshot.

The trilogy has to happen next. Dana wants a stadium event in the UK. It'll sell out easy.
 
The rate time an immediate rematch should happen.

True Rocky stuff.

Rockhold won me over a bit.
 
Couldn't be happier, so glad someone finally flatlined Mr Epo, captain injections.
 
Man am i glad i didn't check this thread or even scroll on Reddit before watching these fights.

Apart from being gassed after 14 seconds, Rockhold looked much better than i expected, had some lovely kicks.

Love that Usman finally lost, and what a great way to do so!
 
feck sake forgot this was on.
Great set up by Leon, Usman tried coasting to the end and gave up pressuring Leon. You can’t give these men an inch or this could happen.
I’d also pay for an event with no commentary, talking about moral victories for Leon just before he knocks an all time great out. Ridiculous.
 
George Owen said:
Absolutely. But business wise, would be the fight to make. The narrative is already there and Jorge is the biggest PPV star after Conor. Leon' would be smart to secure the bag while he can. Dana apparently not interested anyway.

Colby vs Leon would be definitely interesting.
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Hard to give a man coming off 3 losses a title shot
 
Glad Usman got KO’d. I resent the idea that he’s the ‘goat WW’ when his striking is so fundamentally flawed and his legacy is in an era of such a low level of opposition. He’s the Deontay Wilder of MMA. Freak athlete with a big right hand who also happens he be the cringiest fecker in the sport
 
Everyone thinking a rematch would be easy win for 30% Usman but I wonder if the KO will do mental damage to him and that could affect his next performance.

A bit like when Ngannou discovered that MMA wasn't boxing against Stipe the first time they fought.
 
Dirty Schwein said:
Everyone thinking a rematch would be easy win for 30% Usman but I wonder if the KO will do mental damage to him and that could affect his next performance.

A bit like when Ngannou discovered that MMA wasn't boxing against Stipe the first time they fought.
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Moreover, that's Edwards really not doing himself justice and fighting with doubt. Usman has/had the belief and arrogance of a champion, Edwards was fighting without the belief he needs to have in his abilities to give the best showings of himself.

Ironically, it's the mental side of his game that's not up to par and in relation to your post, so maybe a less confident Usman meets a more confident Edwards and they meet in the middle. :lol:

There are certain strikes available to Edwards practically all day vs Usman if he has the self-belief and confidence to throw them.
 
Costa didn't look good at all IMO when you consider who he was up against. Let's be honest, most other top middleweights are finishing Rockhold easily last night, he was absolutely gassed to high heavens but survived because Costa has such a bad gas tank and was blowing out of his ass after half a round. Costa has some big bombs that can hurt almost anybody but outside of that he struggles especially against the top fighters in this division. Quality scrap to watch but you wouldn't be giving Costa much chance against some of the big guns right now.

Insane finish from Edwards. It reminded me slightly of Bisping against Rockhold, quite unexpected but such a great moment. I think Usman is basically a better version of Edwards and got caught, it happens. Edwards was unlucky not to finish him in the first as well though, while Usman never really had Edwards in real trouble in terms of finishing him. I'd definitely fancy Usman in the rematch but this is huge for Edwards.
 
DannyCAFC said:
For a guy that supposedly wanted Leon to win you sure look real salty with all your posts in here once he did. :lol:
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I did want him to win. I was just getting so frustrated during the fight because he kept making the same mistakes. I'd support most against Usman.
 
Name Changed said:
I did want him to win. I was just getting so frustrated during the fight because he kept making the same mistakes. I'd support most against Usman.
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Why not celebrate his victory then rather than discrediting it immediately as a lucky shot? Which is complete nonsense btw.
 
DannyCAFC said:
Why not celebrate his victory then rather than discrediting it immediately as a lucky shot? Which is complete nonsense btw.
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Maybe he's objective? He can celebrate however he wants. Also luck doesn't automatically discredit him... he fully deserved it, but let's not pretend he didn't gety dominated for four rounds before pulling that off.
 
mu4c_20le said:
It was luck because it will never happen again.

Matt Serra 2.0
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In hindsight, it was less luck than a well timed strike. The luck aspect was perhaps that Usman switched off a bit thinking he could glide through the final minute, which isn't something that happens often.

Either way, he was clearly winning the fight by some distance and will probably obliterate Edwards in the rematch - which can't happen soon enough.
 
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Raoul said:
In hindsight, it was less luck than a well timed strike. The luck aspect was perhaps that Usman switched off a bit thinking he could glide through the final minute.

Either way, he was clearly winning the fight by some distance and will probably obliterate Edwards in the rematch - which can't happen soon enough.
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Yeah, it was the unlikelyhood of it happening rather than not intending it, which he fully did. Next time usman or anyone else facing him will keep their hands up and he won't land another ko like that again.

I think barring a mental collapse, Usman should have the rematch in the bag. But part of me hopes this changes Leon into a more aggressive fighter and dominant champ. He always had the tools, just lacked the mentality.
 
mu4c_20le said:
It was luck because it will never happen again.

Matt Serra 2.0
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We have seen upsets in the past and assume rematch will go way of the favourite but it’s not always a sure thing. Rose vs Joanna was a huge upset and Rose looked even better in the rematch. Dillishaw v Barao. Same again huge upset and looked better in the rematch. I think we will see a better version of Leon Edwards in the rematch
 
mu4c_20le said:
Yeah, it was the unlikelyhood of it happening rather than not intending it, which he fully did. Next time usman or anyone else facing him will keep their hands up and he won't land another ko like that again.

I think barring a mental collapse, Usman should have the rematch in the bag. But part of me hopes this changes Leon into a more aggressive fighter and dominant champ. He always had the tools, just lacked the mentality.
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That kick is always there for Edwards. People seem to be confusing being gunshy with the aptitude to feint and pop that thing out in a flash.
 
Fortitude said:
Moreover, that's Edwards really not doing himself justice and fighting with doubt. Usman has/had the belief and arrogance of a champion, Edwards was fighting without the belief he needs to have in his abilities to give the best showings of himself.

Ironically, it's the mental side of his game that's not up to par and in relation to your post, so maybe a less confident Usman meets a more confident Edwards and they meet in the middle. :lol:

There are certain strikes available to Edwards practically all day vs Usman if he has the self-belief and confidence to throw them.
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Fair play to you for calling it
 
DannyCAFC said:
Why not celebrate his victory then rather than discrediting it immediately as a lucky shot? Which is complete nonsense btw.
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I didn't discredit it. It was a great shot. But he was lucky.

I'm not going to celebrate it anyway. I wanted him to win because I prefer him to Usman, that's all.
 
Happy for Leon, going into the fight I actually thought the biggest danger to him losing was Usman clipping him because I didn't think he'd be able to wrestle Leon as effectively as he did, or at least I didn't think he'd want to engage in the wrestling as much considering the success he's had on his feet as the champ and was expecting Leon to capitalise on that and out point him for the majority of the fight with Usman having the KO threat in his back pocket.

He had a very good first round but seemed to completely lose himself after that, he said in the post fight pressers that his body wouldn't respond and it really looked like that because Kamaru just took over and easily took him down for the remainder of the fight, there was one take down in the third (I think?) that was almost comical because Usman just kinda slowly reached down and Leon didn't do anything to defend so he just carried on and put him on the canvas. It seemed like the fight was just drifting away from him and then he does that? absolutely perfect head kick that took Usmans soul and means his most memorable moment will no longer be getting rocked by Diaz in the last few seconds of the fight or having Masvidal sucker punch him.

If the rematch does happen I expect Leon to have a better overall performance than that and hopefully the confidence to put Usman on his back foot more.
 
Dirty Schwein said:
The rate time an immediate rematch should happen.

True Rocky stuff.

Rockhold won me over a bit.
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Me too. Don't get me wrong I have loved bashing him at every opportunity over the years but he's still a Hall of Famer at the end of the day and I'm happy he didn't get knocked out in what might be his last fight.
 
Raoul said:
In hindsight, it was less luck than a well timed strike. The luck aspect was perhaps that Usman switched off a bit thinking he could glide through the final minute, which isn't something that happens often.

Either way, he was clearly winning the fight by some distance and will probably obliterate Edwards in the rematch - which can't happen soon enough.
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Obliterate?! I highly doubt it. I think it would be a pick em, like I had this one, although Leon emerged the winner.

The fight being at altitude affected Leon more than Usman. It's a different fight anywhere else I think.

Anyway I think these two are very well matched and there's little between them when all is said and done.
 
T00lsh3d said:
Fair play to you for calling it
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Cheers.

Perhaps it was the altitude, but I suspect it was Leon's self-doubt that had him so hesitant. I don't think he'll be so apprehensive to release his tools next time. He can do much better than that.
 
Fortitude said:
Cheers.

Perhaps it was the altitude, but I suspect it was Leon's self-doubt that had him so hesitant. I don't think he'll be so apprehensive to release his tools next time. He can do much better than that.
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I only managed the first few fights of the main card before sleep got me, but it seemed like everyone was struggling. Even the lighter weights were looking knackered after the first round.
And tbf to Leon, he is English….we don’t cope very well in even the slightest changes in environment
 
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