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The leg kicks were actually working a little. It was part of the plan. The problem Gaethje had was Khabib can take anybody down and keep them down for inifinity
Yeah like little. He’s a human being but as Justin said himself — Khabib has a poker face on him. Nothing more disheartening than an opponent that doesn’t flinch.
 
Yeah, that was a masterclass. I said before that fight, it was gonna be his easiest title defence, but he made it look way easier than I expected. Gaethje was in panic mode (a bit emotional maybe) from the very beginning and ended the round completely drained. (Crazy to me that 2 judges gave the 1st round to Gaethje.)

We all know how good a Sambo wrestler he is, but I think it's Khabib's mentality and fight IQ that sets him apart (tier 1*) from the rest of the fighters. Master of his trade, sticks to the basics and play it safe, no matter what's going on with the crowd, etc. Definitely the best lightweight of his generation. I don't think he is/was unbeatable (no one is), but the fact he won all those fights while barely getting hit, puts him at the top for sure, because the ultimate goal in a fight is to win while not getting hit. Tony for example (even if he were still undefeated), had a similar impressive win streak, but after every victory, you could tell he was leaving a piece of himself in the octagon, so he goes a tier below.

PS. I don't want Gaethje to get the next title shot, because we all know that Islam is better than him.

Another great post and I’m not taking the piss :lol:

I love how you’re so thorough in every fight. I’m fecking struggling to recall the fight I just watched on YouTube. :wenger:

I do know one thing though; actual fighting and there isn’t a thing like it. I’ve played football to a decent level and scrapped at a decent level and only fighting gets my dick hard. Anyway.. I digress…

Okay, bolded part, what do we know about Islam? He’s an understudy of Khabib and he just made Hooker look like an amateur.. Could he beat Poirier though whom in my opinion was brilliant against Khabib.
 
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Come on Liana! :( Needs a finish in the 3rd.
I can see why she missed weight, again.

Shes undeniably beautiful though. Good Lord those Caucasus’ women are fecking stunning.
 
Okay, bolded part, what do we know about Islam? He’s an understudy of Khabib and he just made Hooker look like an amateur.. Could he beat Poirier though whom in my opinion was brilliant against Khabib.

Yeah, he will beat them all. Will remain undefeated until Arman rematches him for the belt, and avenges his first loss.

That's what I'm hoping for at least hahah.

This next fight should be a good one. Moises (who fought Islam in July) vs an spanish killer (huge for them weightclass).
 
Yeah, that was a masterclass. I said before that fight, it was gonna be his easiest title defence, but he made it look way easier than I expected. Gaethje was in panic mode (a bit emotional maybe) from the very beginning and ended the round completely drained. (Crazy to me that 2 judges gave the 1st round to Gaethje.)

We all know how good a Sambo wrestler he is, but I think it's Khabib's mentality and fight IQ that sets him apart (tier 1*) from the rest of the fighters. Master of his trade, sticks to the basics and play it safe, no matter what's going on with the crowd, etc. Definitely the best lightweight of his generation. I don't think he is/was unbeatable (no one is), but the fact he won all those fights while barely getting hit, puts him at the top for sure, because the ultimate goal in a fight is to win while not getting hit. Tony for example (even if he were still undefeated), had a similar impressive win streak, but after every victory, you could tell he was leaving a piece of himself in the octagon, so he goes a tier below.

PS. I don't want Gaethje to get the next title shot, because we all know that Islam is better than him.
But surely Islam needs some higher ranked opponents before getting title shot? At least a top 5 fighter...
 
But surely Islam needs some higher ranked opponents before getting title shot? At least a top 5 fighter...
I know styles make fights but he just made Hooker look completely clueless. Like really bad. That same man was close to beating Poirier. A title shot? Maybe not … Gaethje for me lad.
 
I know styles make fights but he just made Hooker look completely clueless. Like really bad. That same man was close to beating Poirier. A title shot? Maybe not … Gaethje for me lad.
For me, Gaethje for title shot and Islam v Chandler. Then Islam should get a title shot of he gets past Chandler.
 
@Dirty Schwein @George Owen by the way did you see the back-and-forth between McGregor and Petya Yan? Apparently they’re looking to organise a sparring session in Crumlin. It’s never going to happen but I’d never rule out a boxing match when Conor is completely assed out but still has the itch to get his face scratched.
 
But surely Islam needs some higher ranked opponents before getting title shot? At least a top 5 fighter...

Ideally, yes, but none will fight him. A 9 fight win streak at the UFC, should count for something.

I would just give it to him, and make Gaethje fight Dariush for the next one.

or just give it to Dariush, who defeated Tony last, the same guy that got Gaethje his title shot. Also a 7 fight win streak.

And Islam vs Gaethje for the next shot.

Gaethje should not get it imo. His last title shot was embarrassing.
 
For me, Gaethje for title shot and Islam v Chandler. Then Islam should get a title shot of he gets past Chandler.
That sounds good actually. I’m not actually sold on Islam. Lightning doesn’t strike twice surely? Can’t have a fecking bloke who’s absolutely insane at lightweight and then only to have his fecking understudy to do the same. It’s not unlikely— it’s close to impossible. Logic just says; Islam will fail.
 
For me, Gaethje for title shot and Islam v Chandler. Then Islam should get a title shot of he gets past Chandler.

That may sound good but Gaethje literally just had a title shot and lost, and is actually ranked lower than Islam at the moment. Plus, why would Islam, who has won 9 fights in a row, fight Chandler, who has lost two straight fights ?
 
That may sound good but Gaethje literally just had a title shot and lost, and is actually ranked lower than Islam at the moment. Plus, why would Islam, who has won 9 fights in a row, fight Chandler, who has lost two straight fights ?

Against someone that’s literally unbeatable. Khabib, when he was active, was the best lightweight that ever walked. Certainly the best pound for pound at the time. Chael put it right, Justin didn’t have a night off and he didn’t come back to his best in his last fight.. Khabib just reached God mode. As naff as it sounds… he actually could have submitted Justin with a Kimura but he had the presence of mind to just go no “his parents are watching and I know Justin will never tap”. It takes talking to Conor or with Johnson to the next level.
 
@Dirty Schwein @George Owen by the way did you see the back-and-forth between McGregor and Petya Yan? Apparently they’re looking to organise a sparring session in Crumlin. It’s never going to happen but I’d never rule out a boxing match when Conor is completely assed out but still has the itch to get his face scratched.
It's just McGregor being an idiot. Doubt that would happen.

Ideally, yes, but none will fight him. A 9 fight win streak at the UFC, should count for something.

I would just give it to him, and make Gaethje fight Dariush for the next one.

or just give it to Dariush, who defeated Tony last, the same guy that got Gaethje his title shot. Also a 7 fight win streak.

And Islam vs Gaethje for the next shot.

Gaethje should not get it imo. His last title shot was embarrassing.
I agree Gaethje last title shot was a joke but Khabib isn't there anymore and Gaethje can easily hold his own against anyone else there. Although the thought of Dariush getting the shot, winning and then trashing Elon Musk :lol:
That may sound good but Gaethje literally just had a title shot and lost, and is actually ranked lower than Islam at the moment. Plus, why would Islam, who has won 9 fights in a row, fight Chandler, who has lost two straight fights ?
He had a title shot against a guy who isn't there anymore. That shouldn't affect the next shot as the opponent is someone new. The only way Gaethje shouldn't get a title shot is of he gets Islam. He's beaten Chandler and Tony. Poirier is getting next shot, not many others left.

Plus, rankings mean nothing. We all know this. Gaethje just had a FOTY contender, his name is hot right now, can't see him not getting the shot.

Islam has a 9 fight streak but look at his opponents v who Gaethje fight against in his last 9.

I honestly can't understand why people think Islam should get a title shot. He hasn't even fought a top 5 guy (although that's not his fault).

Islam needs a big name on his CV and I can't see anyone accepting to fight him other than Chandler, who is nuts :lol:
 
It's just McGregor being an idiot. Doubt that would happen.


I agree Gaethje last title shot was a joke but Khabib isn't there anymore and Gaethje can easily hold his own against anyone else there. Although the thought of Dariush getting the shot, winning and then trashing Elon Musk :lol:

He had a title shot against a guy who isn't there anymore. That shouldn't affect the next shot as the opponent is someone new. The only way Gaethje shouldn't get a title shot is of he gets Islam. He's beaten Chandler and Tony. Poirier is getting next shot, not many others left.

Plus, rankings mean nothing. We all know this. Gaethje just had a FOTY contender, his name is hot right now, can't see him not getting the shot.

Islam has a 9 fight streak but look at his opponents v who Gaethje fight against in his last 9.

I honestly can't understand why people think Islam should get a title shot. He hasn't even fought a top 5 guy (although that's not his fault).

Islam needs a big name on his CV and I can't see anyone accepting to fight him other than Chandler, who is nuts :lol:

Yeah but Chandler has lost two in a row (albeit close fights) and only has 3 UFC fights (one of which bizarrely being a title shot). He shouldn't get perpetually rewarded for losing, especially against a fighter who has won 9 straight UFC fights. Islam has been in the trenches and proven himself to where he is deserving of a title shot. At a minimum, he should be fighting Gaethje and not a guy who has two straight losses.
 
Yeah but Chandler has lost two in a row (albeit close fights) and only has 3 UFC fights (one of which bizarrely being a title shot). He shouldn't get perpetually rewarded for losing, especially against a fighter who has won 9 straight UFC fights. Islam has been in the trenches and proven himself to where he is deserving of a title shot. At a minimum, he should be fighting Gaethje and not a guy who has two straight losses.
See I saw Islam v Chandler as a reward for Islam. It's a big name, someone with a following, ex champion (non UFC of course) and someone Islam should be able to beat.

But Islam v Gaethje is something I would be all over!

I'm a massive Islam fan but I just don't feel he deserves a title shot without beating one of Gaethje, Chandler, Dariush, Tony or Poirier.
 
See I saw Islam v Chandler as a reward for Islam. It's a big name, someone with a following, ex champion (non UFC of course) and someone Islam should be able to beat.

But Islam v Gaethje is something I would be all over!

I'm a massive Islam fan but I just don't feel he deserves a title shot without beating one of Gaethje, Chandler, Dariush, Tony or Poirier.

Dariush is another i keep forgetting about. A lot of quality there that could do some damage at the top.
 
Just found out it was an early show for us in EU, and i see you lot discuss Gaethje and Khabib, i assume it's a boring card on now so far then :P
 
Here lads.. where the feck is Zabit? I forgot the existed!! :wenger:
 
:lol: :lol: I fecking switched BT sports on for the main card or so and the whole fecking thing is done!

feck me!
 
Loved that main event. Was like watching real life Tekken. Max deserved winner but Yair gets a lot of respect for skills and heart. Loved the sportsmanship at the end.

The Rothwell fight was just :lol:
 
That may sound good but Gaethje literally just had a title shot and lost, and is actually ranked lower than Islam at the moment. Plus, why would Islam, who has won 9 fights in a row, fight Chandler, who has lost two straight fights ?

Gaethje is ranked 2, higher than Islam. Justin will get the next shot without doubt. Islam needs to beat somebody in the top 5. Let him fight Chandler or the loser of the title fight.
 
Gaethje is ranked 2, higher than Islam. Justin will get the next shot without doubt. Islam needs to beat somebody in the top 5. Let him fight Chandler or the loser of the title fight.

Its not really Islam's problem that the UFC have been slow rolling all this time. He's beaten everyone they've put before him and should be fighting for the title. Chandler had done feck all in the UFC and got a title fight, lost, now lost again, so shouldn't be rewarded by getting to fight someone who is deserving of a title shot right now. Let Chandler face a Dariush or someone in that category before he fights another top contender.
 
Here lads.. where the feck is Zabit? I forgot the existed!! :wenger:
I've put my detective hat on and did some digging (Wikipedia :lol: )

"On April 26, 2021, Magomedsharipov was removed from the UFC official rankings due to inactivity. At the time of removal he was ranked #3.[33] In early June, 2021 it was reported that Magomedsharipov is suffering from health issues related to his immune system. A surgery is required, the outcome of which will determine if he will continue his MMA career."

I hope he recovers. Enjoyed watching him fight.

Its not really Islam's problem that the UFC have been slow rolling all this time. He's beaten everyone they've put before him and should be fighting for the title. Chandler had done feck all in the UFC and got a title fight, lost, now lost again, so shouldn't be rewarded by getting to fight someone who is deserving of a title shot right now. Let Chandler face a Dariush or someone in that category before he fights another top contender.
Islam's last 5 victories are Tsarukyan, Ramos, Dober, Moises and Hooker... there's no way that deserves a title shot :lol: I know it's not his fault that people keep turning him down supposedly but that's the nature of the business... He needs some bigger names. Chandler did get a title shot off of beating only Hooker but he had been a champion in Bellator and also got lucky with timing. Khabib just retires, Gaethje just lost a title fight, Poirier just signed to fight McGregor and Tony was on a recent skid (and I think he just lost to Dariush). That left only Chandler and Chucky Olives. With Chandler's history and impressive UFC debut, it was easy to give him the shot.

And not sure why you keep referring to Chandler losing 2 and being rewarded with Islam... surely Islam is the punishment not the reward :lol:
 
I've put my detective hat on and did some digging (Wikipedia :lol: )

"On April 26, 2021, Magomedsharipov was removed from the UFC official rankings due to inactivity. At the time of removal he was ranked #3.[33] In early June, 2021 it was reported that Magomedsharipov is suffering from health issues related to his immune system. A surgery is required, the outcome of which will determine if he will continue his MMA career."

I hope he recovers. Enjoyed watching him fight.


Islam's last 5 victories are Tsarukyan, Ramos, Dober, Moises and Hooker... there's no way that deserves a title shot :lol: I know it's not his fault that people keep turning him down supposedly but that's the nature of the business... He needs some bigger names. Chandler did get a title shot off of beating only Hooker but he had been a champion in Bellator and also got lucky with timing. Khabib just retires, Gaethje just lost a title fight, Poirier just signed to fight McGregor and Tony was on a recent skid (and I think he just lost to Dariush). That left only Chandler and Chucky Olives. With Chandler's history and impressive UFC debut, it was easy to give him the shot.

And not sure why you keep referring to Chandler losing 2 and being rewarded with Islam... surely Islam is the punishment not the reward :lol:

Chandler has no UFC credibility. He's simply a Bellator guy who has been spoonfed top fights by the UFC for marketing purposes just as Makachev has been slowrolled to avoid him overlapping with Khabib's reign. But again, you don't reward losing for a third consecutive time with Chandler. Let him actually prove himself in the UFC by beating someone other than Hooker before he qualified for a near the top fight again.
 
Chandler has no UFC credibility. He's simply a Bellator guy who has been spoonfed top fights by the UFC for marketing purposes just as Makachev has been slowrolled to avoid him overlapping with Khabib's reign. But again, you don't reward losing for a third consecutive time with Chandler. Let him actually prove himself in the UFC by beating someone other than Hooker before he qualified for a near the top fight again.
Mate I know you been watching UFC a long time, you're a regular here, which is why I'm surprised at some of what you are saying. When has meritocracy ever been a part of the Red Tomato Head's plans? Chandler is a big name from outside the UFC, talks a good game, exciting in the cage etc. He'll keep getting big fights. HE would be the reward for Islam not the other way round (as you keep putting it). Chandler just had one of the FOTY candidates, far more casuals will tune in for him than Islam.

Regardless of whether Chandler deserves big fights or not, it doesn't change the fact that Islam shouldn't get a title shot until he beats a top 5 guy.
 
Mate I know you been watching UFC a long time, you're a regular here, which is why I'm surprised at some of what you are saying. When has meritocracy ever been a part of the Red Tomato Head's plans? Chandler is a big name from outside the UFC, talks a good game, exciting in the cage etc. He'll keep getting big fights. HE would be the reward for Islam not the other way round (as you keep putting it). Chandler just had one of the FOTY candidates, far more casuals will tune in for him than Islam.

Regardless of whether Chandler deserves big fights or not, it doesn't change the fact that Islam shouldn't get a title shot until he beats a top 5 guy.

Then give Islam a top 3 guy and not Chandler (who is ranked below him BTW). Dariush would be a good fight for him since he's actually been winning his recent fights.