I'm not sure how I feel about that, I really don't like RVP as an inside forward, and Beckham and Mihajlovic are too deep for me and I'm not sure about them as the defensive wide midfielders.. Why not go for a 4-4-2 or a 4-4-1-1? Stam-DeBoer are brilliant though.
Thoughts ?
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Bold move. In all honesty I wouldn't have gone for that myself. Neville lacks both the pace and the technique to make a convincing wing-back in my opinion. He was at his very best as a more mature player, not relying on either category, but on his reading of the game and his crossing (which he developed fully rather late in his career). An excellent right back in his pomp - but for me definitely a fullback and not a wing-back.
The "deepness" of Beckham and Mihajlovic is subjective, it's the shape that is key, they are both utter workhorses who will be up and down the flanks so no fears there, both are more than capable of tucking in against teams that will try and flood the middle.
I don't think I will lose anything with RVP being inside left, if anything it gets him more involved in the general play and can attack the far post for Beckham crosses.
Come on @AldoPaine18 !!!
Yeah I see it, but I think that you could've went without RVP and playing 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-1-1 or even 4-3-3 with the players you had previous to this round..
The plan was always to play 3-4-3 diamond Cruyff style. Something a bit different.
You will learn this about me and drafts....
Gianluca Pessotto showed you don't need to be quick to excel as a wingback. Neville may have lacked pace, but as you say he was a great reader of the game; he also had endless stamina, could get up and down the flank all game, defended well and had a superb delivery. He certainly wouldn't be the best in that position but I think he'd do a good job there.
Don't think Neville's a good enough attacking outlet to play as a wingback. In that formation i'd prefer him as the right sided centreback where he played a bit for England iirc
I love Nev and I won't deny that he could do a job in such a set-up. I guess the main question would be whether it wouldn't be better to simply play him as a right back? For the good of the team as such, I mean. He's one of the best right backs in the PL era, after all - and as such a clear asset. As a wing-back he is not a clear asset.
I agree with Cutch and Chester.
On Stobs formation, don't agree with the remark about Mihaijlovic being too deep. He's shown on the half way line which surely if anything is too far forward! Looks a decent set up for a good old fashioned 4-4-2 that, just needs a RB and LW
I thought about it too but not too sure about Busquets at CM of 4-4-2...
He started out his career on the left of midfield and moved further back as his career progressed, will have all the tools to patrol and turn what looks like a 3-4-3 into a more orthodox 5-3-2/5-4-1 with the four in the latter shaping to become a smaller version the often buzzed about "magic square" to suffocate the middle of the park while still covering the flanks.
Don't give any free kicks away against me either lads
Thoughts ?
Never sure on 3 man defence esp with your wingers. If opponent is playing 4-4-2 you are in trouble! You need good wingbacks to make that work imho!
This is why I wouldn't have wanted Ramos in my defense. He makes too many fouls near the box and some teams(such as yours) will be too much to deal against that..Don't give any free kicks away against me either lads
Great round for me. I can't believe Raúl made it so far without being picked.
MIhajlovic can move to left back, Becks tucks in to make a midfield three and Stam or as yet un-named Centre back moves across to the right if it becomes a big problem, Stam played many a game in Italy on that side, will be no problem for him to switch temporarily.
I desperately need a DM, and I can't think...
Almost done, then.
Anyone who doesn't need a CM or DM
That left wing looks brilliant, and Gullit-Raul is also great... Your defense is your "weakness"(not that it's weak), but Desailly covering for them is as good as it gets... I think you have a great team, certainly one of the teams to beat.
Almost done, then.
Only 4 people left to pick a keeper .. right?
Pol, Anto, Cutch and myself..
Pol, Anto, Cutch and myself..
Yeah, surprising. I had him in my radar as backup in case I failed to land Batigol, but then me getting Baggio changed things up. Great pick btw!
Anto picked Bernard Lama i think
I have more than enough, need a leftback though, but I think I'm not alone with that either.
I'm beginning to like the idea of going 3-5-2.. Would need a CB and ST. Some cracking strikers around, I think, but no CBs
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antohan : 1. Djemba Djemba 2. Ronald Koeman 3. Andreas Brehme 4. Arjen Robben 5 Willy Sagnol 6. Phillip Cocu 7. Bastian Schweinsteiger 8. Dennis Bergkamp 9. Popescu 10. Lama
Balu : 1. Thomas Muller 2. Stefan Effenberg 3. Matthias Sammer 4. Oliver Kahn 5. Jurgen Klinsmann 6. Guido Buchwald 7. Jurgen Kohler 8. Stefan Reuter 9. Frings 10. Basler
Thisistheone : 1. Paul Scholes 2. Dejan Savicevic 3. Francesco Totti 4. Angelo Di Livio 5. Luis Suarez 6. Paolo Montero 7. Daniele De Rossi 8. Ciro Ferrara 9. Pessotto 10. Peruzzi
crappycraperson : 1. Patrick Vieira 2. Arnold Scholten 3. Djimi Traore 4. Eric Cantona 5. Andrei Kanchelskis 6. Didier Drogba 7. Robert Pires 8. Abel Xavier 9. Keown 10. Lampard
Chesterlestreet : 1. Demitrio Albertini 2. Robert Prosinečki 3. Alessandro Costacurta 4. Peter Schmeichel 5. Gary Lineker 6. Claudio Caniggia 7. Aldair 8. Dragan Stoijkovic 9. Gio Van Bronckhorst 10. Larsson
VivaJanuzaj : 1. Michael Laudrup 2. Ubaldo Righetti 3. Pavel Nedved 4. Georgios Samaras 5. Luka Modric 6. Alexis Sanchez 7. Ricardo Carvalho 8. Antonios Nikopolidis 9. Terry 10. Baines
Gio : 1. Edgar Davids 2. Dragisa Binic 3. Rivaldo 4. Sol Campbell 5. Andy Goran 6. Claudio Lopez 7. Christian Vieri 8. Diego Simeone 9. Carboni 10. Andersson
Cutch : 1. Luis Enrique 2. Gaizka Mendieta 3. Hristo Stoichkov 4. Carles Puyol 5. Dani Alves 6. Mauro Silva 7. Sergi 8. Dunga 9. Villa 10. Ramos
Edgar Allan Pillow : 1. Rui Costa 2. Andriy Shevchenko 3. Michael Ballack 4. Xabi Alonso 5. Roberto Baggio 6. Jorginho 7. Lucio 8. Branco 9. Dante 10. Weidenfeller
Pippa : 1. Marcel Desailly 2. Ryan Giggs 3. Ruud Gullit 4. Roberto Donadoni 5. Denis Irwin 6. Manucho 7. Jocelyn Angloma 8. Gianluca Pagliuca 9. Raul 10. Djukic
Polaroid : 1. Rio Ferdinand 2. Anton Janssen 3. Zinedine Zidane 4. Brian Laudrup 5. Samuel Eto'o 6. William Gallas 7. Gareth Bale 8. Emmanuel Petit 9. Alaba 10. Gundogan
MJJ : 1. Hagi 2. Ian Rush 3. Kevin Muscat 4. Juan Sebastian Veron 5. Arturo Vidal 6. Roberto Ayala 7. John Barnes 8. Sergio Aguero 9. Valdes 10. Vidic
Stobzilla : 1. Jaap Stam 2. Siniša Mihajlović 3. Sergio Busquets 4. David Beckham 5. Frank De Boer 6. George Weah 7. Yaya Toure 8. Trevor Sinclair 9. Lehman 10.RVP
Jayvin : 1. Lilian Thuram 2. Hajry Redouane 3. Fernando Hierro 4. Patrice Evra 5. Didier Deschamps 6. Liam Miller 7. Iker Casillas 8. Ruben Baraja 9. Shearer 10. G Neville
sullydnl : Cafu 2. António Pacheco 3. Ruud Van Nistelrooy 4. Claude Makelele 5. Michael Essien 6. Kaka 7. Leonardo 8. Andreas Kopke 9. Gamarra 10. Mexes
Snipers Breath : 1. Andrea Pirlo 2. Jean Pierre Papin 3. Steven Gerrard 4. Fabio Cannavaro 5. Paul Gascoigne 6. Walter Samuel 7. Pablo Aimar 8. Gianluca Zambrotta 9. Courtois 10. Di Maria
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Players in pink are sheep picks.
antohan : 1. Djemba Djemba 2. Ronald Koeman 3. Andreas Brehme 4. Arjen Robben 5 Willy Sagnol 6. Phillip Cocu 7. Bastian Schweinsteiger 8. Dennis Bergkamp 9. Popescu 10. Lama
Balu : 1. Thomas Muller 2. Stefan Effenberg 3. Matthias Sammer 4. Oliver Kahn 5. Jurgen Klinsmann 6. Guido Buchwald 7. Jurgen Kohler 8. Stefan Reuter 9. Frings 10. Basler
Thisistheone : 1. Paul Scholes 2. Dejan Savicevic 3. Francesco Totti 4. Angelo Di Livio 5. Luis Suarez 6. Paolo Montero 7. Daniele De Rossi 8. Ciro Ferrara 9. Pessotto 10. Peruzzi
crappycraperson : 1. Patrick Vieira 2. Arnold Scholten 3. Djimi Traore 4. Eric Cantona 5. Andrei Kanchelskis 6. Didier Drogba 7. Robert Pires 8. Abel Xavier 9. Keown 10. Lampard
Chesterlestreet : 1. Demitrio Albertini 2. Robert Prosinečki 3. Alessandro Costacurta 4. Peter Schmeichel 5. Gary Lineker 6. Claudio Caniggia 7. Aldair 8. Dragan Stoijkovic 9. Gio Van Bronckhorst 10. Larsson
VivaJanuzaj : 1. Michael Laudrup 2. Ubaldo Righetti 3. Pavel Nedved 4. Georgios Samaras 5. Luka Modric 6. Alexis Sanchez 7. Ricardo Carvalho 8. Antonios Nikopolidis 9. Terry 10. Baines
Gio : 1. Edgar Davids 2. Dragisa Binic 3. Rivaldo 4. Sol Campbell 5. Andy Goran 6. Claudio Lopez 7. Christian Vieri 8. Diego Simeone 9. Carboni 10. Andersson
Cutch : 1. Luis Enrique 2. Gaizka Mendieta 3. Hristo Stoichkov 4. Carles Puyol 5. Dani Alves 6. Mauro Silva 7. Sergi 8. Dunga 9. Villa 10. Ramos
Edgar Allan Pillow : 1. Rui Costa 2. Andriy Shevchenko 3. Michael Ballack 4. Xabi Alonso 5. Roberto Baggio 6. Jorginho 7. Lucio 8. Branco 9. Dante 10. Weidenfeller
Pippa : 1. Marcel Desailly 2. Ryan Giggs 3. Ruud Gullit 4. Roberto Donadoni 5. Denis Irwin 6. Manucho 7. Jocelyn Angloma 8. Gianluca Pagliuca 9. Raul 10. Djukic
Polaroid : 1. Rio Ferdinand 2. Anton Janssen 3. Zinedine Zidane 4. Brian Laudrup 5. Samuel Eto'o 6. William Gallas 7. Gareth Bale 8. Emmanuel Petit 9. Alaba 10. Gundogan
MJJ : 1. Hagi 2. Ian Rush 3. Kevin Muscat 4. Juan Sebastian Veron 5. Arturo Vidal 6. Roberto Ayala 7. John Barnes 8. Sergio Aguero 9. Valdes 10. Vidic
Stobzilla : 1. Jaap Stam 2. Siniša Mihajlović 3. Sergio Busquets 4. David Beckham 5. Frank De Boer 6. George Weah 7. Yaya Toure 8. Trevor Sinclair 9. Lehman 10.RVP
Jayvin : 1. Lilian Thuram 2. Hajry Redouane 3. Fernando Hierro 4. Patrice Evra 5. Didier Deschamps 6. Liam Miller 7. Iker Casillas 8. Ruben Baraja 9. Shearer 10. G Neville
sullydnl : Cafu 2. António Pacheco 3. Ruud Van Nistelrooy 4. Claude Makelele 5. Michael Essien 6. Kaka 7. Leonardo 8. Andreas Kopke 9. Gamarra 10. Mexes
Snipers Breath : 1. Andrea Pirlo 2. Jean Pierre Papin 3. Steven Gerrard 4. Fabio Cannavaro 5. Paul Gascoigne 6. Walter Samuel 7. Pablo Aimar 8. Gianluca Zambrotta 9. Courtois 10. Di Maria
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Players in pink are sheep picks.
See ya'll after 10 hrs. Good night!
Bah .. this has slowed down quite a bit.
Yet another double pick on the cards, then. I need some kind criteria here. If not I'll find myself in a position where I have to make a killing in the final round, landing a big fish from the banned pool.
Sorry lads, just came back, will post the question in a few minutes.
You should try playing the ones I have played in other forums, 4 days flat for one round to complete and weekend counts for one day.
You should try playing the ones I have played in other forums, 4 days flat for one round to complete and weekend counts for one day.Sorry lads, just came back, will post the question in a few minutes.
Why does it take that long? Thats insane.
Round 9 Criterion
Pick TWO players who played for the same club but their careers never overlapped.
Wikipedia records are the evidence. For example, if a player left a club in the summer of 2003 and another one joined in the same time, that is valid.
Provide me the wiki links of both players and the name of the club for which they both played.
Example of PM :
Club : Manchester United
Player 1 : George Best - <wiki link>
Player 2 : Bryan Robson - <wiki link>
BLOCKING RULES
If one of your player gets blocked, you cannot move on to another club for which the player that passed played and pick from that club. In other words, the club is fixed if one of your player passes.
If both are blocked, you can choose a completely new set of players.
Reminders :
1. All players must be born after 30 October 1960.
2. You must have a goalkeeper after THIS round.
Deadline : 1700 UK time, 20 Feb or when I get the last pick.
Pick TWO players who played for the same club but their careers never overlapped.
Wikipedia records are the evidence. For example, if a player left a club in the summer of 2003 and another one joined in the same time, that is valid.
Provide me the wiki links of both players and the name of the club for which they both played.
Example of PM :
Club : Manchester United
Player 1 : George Best - <wiki link>
Player 2 : Bryan Robson - <wiki link>
BLOCKING RULES
If one of your player gets blocked, you cannot move on to another club for which the player that passed played and pick from that club. In other words, the club is fixed if one of your player passes.
If both are blocked, you can choose a completely new set of players.
Reminders :
1. All players must be born after 30 October 1960.
2. You must have a goalkeeper after THIS round.
Deadline : 1700 UK time, 20 Feb or when I get the last pick.
That's how it is. They give 48 hours for pick 1 and 24 for 2 and 3. It doesn't matter if everyone sends their picks early, the results are announced after that duration.
But to be fair that's not as active as this place.
That's the easiest question I could think of. Don't think there should be any blocks whatsoever.
Those who don't have a keeper - do not miss out.
Those who don't have a keeper - do not miss out.
That will help picking fullbacks
Should have left the GK for this round.48 hrs! That must be SO boring.
This is a very interesting criteria, if one of your players is blocked you can get screwed so late at the draft.. Could be a brilliant round two or three criteria that'll make tons of sheep..
Digging.
Digging.
That will help picking fullbacks
48 hrs! That must be SO boring.
It is lengthy but I got used to it, really. I just sent my pick and forgot about it.
Also, I had already played plenty of sheep drafts elsewhere so it was easier to wait. You guys are playing your first so the excitement is much more.
It's not what I wanted to give, honestly, but it is pretty easy. I was thinking of other ones which were a lot trickier, but this is more or less an open round for everyone to complete the team the way they want to.
True that.
How unfair to have both Koeman and G.Popescu(Hope that is the one you got, can somebody confirm so I dont out a player) in the same team. Koeman is in my eyes the best playmaking CB in history of his style and Popescu is also up there albeit not as far up of course.
Even if they both are similar, they would in my eyes shine even brighter playing together considering Koeman loved being the only CB and all his playmaking was made from deep using his spectacular range of passing. Popescu on the other hand loved to drive forward and of course who is better than Koeman to take that role of a lone CB when Popescu pushes forward.
They both played for Barcelona in the dream team era but not together, so they enjoyed the same type of football too. Popescu could never really replace Koeman as was first thought, which is the ultimate proof that they were in fact not very similar players. Which means I think their chances of playing together are actually very good.
Of course Popescu could play as a DM and CM with equal ease so there is no must that theyd play together in a defense by any means.