The First Redcafe Sheep Draft
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I nominate Shaun Goater. Maybe Dickov actually.
And I consistently said he was in fact too good to be a sheep.
Non sense. If Anto is going to cry about Heskey now then change the sheep to be worst possible player in that criteria. And change his sheep to Dong or Bebe. I will take whoever you assign me then without any question
Group stage format was like watching paint dry for everyone involved. Just hope to get through the first game I'd say.
Not really, he's a liability, the only thing you can argue is he's a big man and hold up play and all that, but even that wasn't really something he would do against good defenders here.
Tbh I didn't understand why he chose Djemba over Heskey. Heskey without a doubt was a much better player. But I guess it is much move difficult to cover a sheep playing up front than in a 3 man midfield supported by others.
He did have redeeming qualities. If you set up in a certain way you could probably use these qualities too - play "straight forward" to use Rene's term from the other night...But at the end of the day you'd never get away with it. Nobody would vote for such a set-up.
Still...what remains a very real possibility here is that we all end up with sheep - and some of us with multiple sheep. A match between two sheep ridden managers - and all of a sudden what looks like a complete donkey could become a valuable player. Part of the fun is that we simply can't know how any of these teams turn out in the end. You could pick five world class players in a row - only to finish with a run of three desperate choices and three sheep...
I watched a lot of Barcelona in the mid 90s and then I was a bit of a Valencia fanboy in the late 90s (what a team they were) so we might be a bit similar in that regard. I could end up with a bit of a hybrid of those 2 sides at this rate.
Shaun Goater is by no means the worst striker under this criteria and his scoring record is actually better than Heskey's.
It is farce. He was being offered Heskey who is far from the worst possible player in that criteria, yet he cried about others getting getting Kuyt, Kalou etc in the next round and went looking for worst possible players.
So if sheep = worst possible players. Then let's just make that rule change.
Heskey would be fitting of a sheep no doubt (has he been sent off though?). With lots of sides likely going 1 up top, if that man is your striker that you're relying on for goals then you're screwed!
I'd like to nominate Álvaro Mejía. One of the worst central defenders I have ever seen play for Real Madrid.
I will take Djimi traore if he qualifies. kps88 wanted him to play a part in this draft
I picked Djemba because at least I could have some fun taking the piss out of him and how I have 12 players on the pitch. I thought he would also settle any arguments and set a marker for sheep standards.
I refused Heskey because: 1. I thought he wasn't the right standard to set for sheep, even if there are some funny clips of him falling on his arse, 2. I felt no link to him whatsoever.
There has been no "crying" involved, the only one crying over sheep here is crappy, who happened to be quite enjoying vetoing everything until I offered Djemba.
It is pretty much close to that. I only said not to go to the levels of Bebe, Dia etc, they are not even footballer in my book.
he does qualify.
Anyone has an objection? I know he's a CL winner but very few defenders could be more shambolic, so in my book he's quite a good sheep.
Exactly. Heskey actually became that in a BS sheep draft and everyone there with sheep was moaning that suddenly he looked a beast. That's why I insisted on him not ebing sheep material straight off the bat, they had a point. In fact, many of the late round picks or sheep-avoidal crap third attempts were also worse than Heskey.
I vetoed Oshea for valid reasons and likewise vetoed Anderson as well. What link did I have to sheep assigned to me in last round?
Instead of worrying about sheeps let's get the next picks in! Screw the deadline!
Why did you not veto Heskey in round 1 itself then when it was offered to anto?
You keep twisting this as some sort of refusal of your generosity. I always said Heskey's quality wasn't sheep material, from the off. That's exactly why I offered to pick a lower quality one, if only to make the point I wasn't refusing Heskey specifically in my case.
Instead of worrying about sheeps let's get the next picks in! Screw the deadline!
This.
Quit complaining about fecking sheep. Leave that to Aldo to sort out.
I was really keen to get Sanchez in the last all-time draft just to relay that story.A short piece on a recently picked WC draft player (that game is funny as feck, yes, it was the only upside in researching Eyzaguirre):
LEONEL SÁNCHEZ, CHILE
Anytime you need to call in the police to assist the referee in keeping the players from killing one another, the fuse has usually been lit long before kickoff. That, at least, was the case with the 1962 World Cup group match between host Chile and Italy, dubbed "the Battle of Santiago." Passions had been running high in the days before the match as the Chileans were manipulated into believing that the Italians had made derogatory and insensitive remarks in the aftermath of the devastating 1960 Chilean earthquake. The enmity became so intense that two offending Italian journalists were forced to flee the country. The contest itself deteriorated quickly into one of the World Cup's most shameful displays of soccer.
It began with what appeared to be a fairly innocuous foul on high-scoring Chilean winger Leonel Sánchez by Italian defender Mario David near the left corner flag. Sánchez, the son of a boxer, bounded to his feet and coldcocked David with a haymaker that the announcer described as "the neatest left hook" that he had ever seen (
Sánchez escaped punishment again, and the Chileans scored two late goals to secure the victory that vaulted them into the quarterfinals.
The national motto of Chile translates to "by reason or by force." Leonel Sánchez's motto was punchier.
I didn't see it as outrageous. I wouldn't throw in a veto unless someone suggests a player who is clearly too decent to qualify as a sheep. Heskey will in all likelihood be a liability to anyone who plays him - and he has the comical side to him which I would like a sheep to have. Saying he has redeeming qualities isn't the same as saying he's not sheep material. All the sheep awarded so far have redeeming qualities if you look at it from a certain point of view. They're professional footballer, top level players too - just hopelessly out of their league compared to the players people actually want in their team.
You are not the one who assigns it. Leave it to Aldo or Jaybezia. You can veto Traore if you have to.
Going to send my pick in now. A defender who I've always admired. I'll be very happy if I get him.
Interested to see who you come up with man, love your team so far
Are we all getting picks in early? I'm still undecided but can speed it up if everyone else is cracking on.
No, I won't. Would just be a dick move. There's no grounds for it other than you suddenly not wanting a striker once Shaun Goater was mentioned
Yeah we have changed the rules on that so all rounds will finish as soon as I have all the picks.
If you wanna take your team, go ahead, you don't have to rush in if you aren't decided.
I already submitted a pick. fecking Littbarski was a few months too early, would have loved him in my team , but I'm happy with my back up.
, but I'm happy with my back up.How many picks have been sent in? And by the way, what round can we draft more than one player?
4. And the latter would not be until at least 2 more rounds.
I doubt sheep Pacheco will leave a long term impression, if he gets game time at all
.It was kinda obvious. Brehme was tempting though, was very close to go for him with Lizarazu and Lahm banned, but I was worried that someone else would go for him and Sammer is clearly the standout pick for my team, couldn't risk missing out on him.
Why Nedved is hard to fit? I always thought of him as pretty versatile and easy to fit to most teams, he's tactical awareness is brilliant, always tracked back and had tremendous work rate, brilliant on the left wing but could also play right wing without any issues..
What makes him difficult? What am I missing? And don't you think him and Laudrup will cope brilliantly together?
I already submitted a pick. fecking Littbarski was a few months too early, would have loved him in my team
Yeah, Baresi, Littbarski and Voller stood out to me as pre-30/10/60 (that's some ugly ho)