I'd say it's mainly because he was hyped up to a large extent by the scousers - they bought him very young and he was supposed to be the next big thing, etc. As it turned out he clearly wasn't. He was Ando like for them, in the sense that he remained with the club for years without ever coming truly good.
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I'd say it's mainly because he was hyped up to a large extent by the scousers - they bought him very young and he was supposed to be the next big thing, etc. As it turned out he clearly wasn't. He was Ando like for them, in the sense that he remained with the club for years without ever coming truly good.
In the theme of red cards, how about some serial offenders like Neil Ruddock, Julian Dicks or Vinnie Jones? Surely some worthy additions there.
Yeah I banged that drum for a long time, especially when most of the Caf felt Ronaldo should've won it.
Liam Miller for a sheep?
Has @AldoPaine18 put up the failed tries?
Ben Thatcher too
this thread is like crack cocaine.
as a lurker I actually went to the trouble of digging out my old log in details just so i could express my appreciation. some astounding players overlooked so far. one Italian defensive colossus in particular springs to mind.
plus, Frank Sinclair would make a great sheep
as a lurker I actually went to the trouble of digging out my old log in details just so i could express my appreciation. some astounding players overlooked so far. one Italian defensive colossus in particular springs to mind.
plus, Frank Sinclair would make a great sheep
Kevin Muscat
Aye - and not just one either.
It's been great fun so far - and I think it'll get even better as we move deeper into the rounds.
Balls. I go to sleep and miss all the fun
I thought that was who you would and should have gone for Balu. Gio laughing all the way to Rivaldo, predictable.
Chesterle, sorry for calling you a bastard, Cutch is. Cutch, what is it with you and picking players I used against you? If only you had acknowledged how good they were then
Pippa, you lucky fecker. Again. I'm glad Tito got his man and that somehow I contributed to him still being around as he would have Henry had I checked worldfootball-net... and Gullit wouldn't be with us
Win-win.Sully, cracking pick, for some reason kept hoping he slipped due to other priorities.
Good round overall.
Oh, and Edgar 
TITO loves his number 10s. I suspect he's not finished there yet either.
We can call it the Aldo homage rule, spending all day formatting posts.
I don't think you understood my point with Pacheco, this is exactly what I didn't want: his good name being dragged through the mud. Pink mud.
Seems a bit odd to me that no one is impressed with Nedved's pick. I mean I won't take anything away from Gullit or Rivaldo and of course not from Zizou, but Nedved is bloody brilliant! and to think of him with Laudrup it's amazing imo. Such a great leader.
@AldoPaine18 how many people sent picks yet?
I've a bad memory Anto. I knew you were a Luis Enrique fan but Mendieta and Stoitchkov are joining me for a second time now. Both i rate highly and the 3 of them give me good versatility in attacking positions
Can we finalize the two sheep asap? Because it's only fair that both MJJ and crappy submit their pick once they know who it is.
Jaybezia hasn't replied at all so it will be me again.
Put in your nominations and vetos in the next hour or so and we can make a call on it then.
Jaybezia hasn't replied at all so it will be me again.
Put in your nominations and vetos in the next hour or so and we can make a call on it then.
Love it, yeah, no Brambles, Palmers or Pongolles! Most of them weren't too bad though. Dennis Wise, for instance, wasn't a bad player at all.
Julian Dicks (that name deserves a sheep pick)
Jody Morris
Ben Thatcher
Kevin Muscat, absolutely
There are others but they had redeeming qualities. Dicks and Muscat IMO.
A short piece on a recently picked WC draft player (that game is funny as feck, yes, it was the only upside in researching Eyzaguirre):
LEONEL SÁNCHEZ, CHILE
Anytime you need to call in the police to assist the referee in keeping the players from killing one another, the fuse has usually been lit long before kickoff. That, at least, was the case with the 1962 World Cup group match between host Chile and Italy, dubbed "the Battle of Santiago." Passions had been running high in the days before the match as the Chileans were manipulated into believing that the Italians had made derogatory and insensitive remarks in the aftermath of the devastating 1960 Chilean earthquake. The enmity became so intense that two offending Italian journalists were forced to flee the country. The contest itself deteriorated quickly into one of the World Cup's most shameful displays of soccer.
It began with what appeared to be a fairly innocuous foul on high-scoring Chilean winger Leonel Sánchez by Italian defender Mario David near the left corner flag. Sánchez, the son of a boxer, bounded to his feet and coldcocked David with a haymaker that the announcer described as "the neatest left hook" that he had ever seen (
). Astonishingly, Sánchez's pugilistic gifts went unpunished. David, not surprisingly, retaliated a few minutes later, with a two-footed flying kick to Sánchez's neck that led to his immediate ejection and a full-blown melee between the teams. Amid the bedlam, Sánchez broke striker Umberto Maschio's nose with another textbook blow. There were now two Italians down, only nine to go.Sánchez escaped punishment again, and the Chileans scored two late goals to secure the victory that vaulted them into the quarterfinals.
The national motto of Chile translates to "by reason or by force." Leonel Sánchez's motto was punchier.
Great pick. I've always thought he was a wonderful footballer even though he was forever Rube. I would've definitely taken him if I couldn't pick up Giggs because he was brilliant in left midfield back in the early 2000s. He, like Giggs, used to humiliate a certain Spanish right back, and it was truly painful to watch at times.
A lot of Serie A players taken already, I think. I was thinking about a prospective full team to make and it would contain 7 players who once played in Italy.
I think a few of us have done quite well with our first three picks. If you had gone on and taken Messi you might've been the favourite at this point. I count myself lucky to get Giggs and Gullit, considering they weren't even my first options for their rounds.
Oh, but I am - very impressed. If I had gone for a slightly different gameplan he would've been just about the first name on my list - superb footballer and one of my favourite players ever. So there.
To be fair Anto you did actually convert me a bit on Luis Enrique. Really liked him when I was growin up watchin La Liga but actually forgot how good he was until i seen a 25minute master class on YouTube prior to our match. Such passion and drive and wow could he finish!
Great pick. I've always thought he was a wonderful footballer even though he was forever Rube. I would've definitely taken him if I couldn't pick up Giggs because he was brilliant in left midfield back in the early 2000s. He, like Giggs, used to humiliate a certain Spanish right back, and it was truly painful to watch at times.
A lot of Serie A players taken already, I think. I was thinking about a prospective full team to make and it would contain 7 players who once played in Italy.
Not really surprising tbh, given the timeline Serie A in the 80s and 90s had World Class players spread all over the league.
Looks brilliant, mate. No shortage of intensity in your team.
Yeah my team definately won't be accused of lacking effort!
The challenge with Nedved is always how best to deploy him. A bit like with Rui Costa, people seem to have different views on how they like and don't like him to be played. I had just worked out a way he would fit in for me, but was never going to go with him before a few others. Great player though, no doubt.
Kevin Muscat
Honestly couldn't stop laughing when I saw this, feel kinda bad now...
I'll send my pick in the next 10 minutes
I think we can't not have Muscat in the draft now.
@MJJ would you like to take him? You should be okay, he's got almost 50 caps.
@MJJ would you like to take him? You should be okay, he's got almost 50 caps.
Can you finalize the sheep please? I want to send in my pick since I may not be on later
Tell me the position in which you need a sheep.
Just throwing it out there, but can we return to group stage format for the next draft? I know it means a lot more threads and possible reduced interest/voters as a result, but it's a bit shit when you spend time building a side and only get to 'play' one match.
Give me one of Heskey or Pongolle.
Stoichkov, All-time final winner
Was very close to go for him in the first round but thought Chesterle would (only briefly picked up it was a Milan theme when mulling over Gullit, only to find he wasn't eligible, yet was). With him goes the last of those I would move rather than risk banning. You got lucky there.
We do tend to share taste in players, no doubt. I never even picked Mendieta myself but always stick up for him when Gio picks him (then slaps him in some random asymetric role, which rarely helps). Hadn't realised you've had them twice already.
Going to send my pick in now. A defender who I've always admired. I'll be very happy if I get him.
Yeah, why not. Was he a cb?
Eh? You didn't want a striker last time out.
I've said before, I'm vetoing Heskey all the way to the end. Laughing stock or not, he actually had redeeming attributes, loads of them.
What non sense is this? You were offered Heskey yourself.. if he was good enough to be a sheep then he is good enough to be a sheep now