Really? I already had more than 20 I would happily pick before I dropped it.
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Really? I already had more than 20 I would happily pick before I dropped it.
Romario
, why wasn't this the first question? I'd be surprised. There is so much quality in just about every position. I know that if the player who I want is blocked, there will be someone else who is just as brilliant - but doesn't play the same position - who could easily slot into my team.
What a player.
Get out of here!
Fergie's smile is awesome. With the O'Shea one he was jumping all over the place, here he is like "Shame he couldn't do that if he tried another 50 times".
I didn't plan to go for Brehme early (which was always necessary to get him), and I really like Lizarazu, that's why I was so angry when he was banned
I had Lizarazu in the line-up before the first round. And Giggs. Those two are the ones I've positively missed out on so far.
Re: Brehme. I suppose you could almost call him a Serie A man, as Anto suggests, in the sense that his Inter years were the ones that truly cemented his status - plus, he was an Inter player when he stepped up to the mark and killed the 1990 WC final. I certainly wouldn't consider him a Bayern man at any rate - as I'm sure you would agree. A Kaiserslautern man who peaked during his stint at Inter - that sounds more or less right, I guess.
Also aiming for a Serie A theme, roughly. No surprise that a lot of us are.
Hopefully this round I can land my all time favourite right back from that league.
Hopefully this round I can land my all time favourite right back from that league.
I don't consider him a Bayern man at all, I wrote the same recently when I posted that alltime Bayern XI. However, I'd love to play him in my team, he wouldn't be a problem with my theme at all, whatever my theme will be in the end (depends heavily on the upcoming criterias).
... and he's getting blocked.
Well, my team is Serie A based too....a least in spirit!
I'm amazed he's lasted this long.
Certainly not a Bayern man in my book, I meant Serie A vs. Bundesliga. Largely agree with Chesterle's points.
I didn't have the bollocks to go for him in the first round, thought Luis Enrique was safer and I could always play him RB if needs be. Cue Djemba-Djemba
There's actually tons of players available, I'm surprised how many players lost in these group stages
Yeah, I would have loved this question further down the line actually as it isn't just deep but consists of entire squads so would have been useful to fill in blanks. It's unlikely there will be sheep collecting here as it is I think.
Basically every top nation went out a few times in the group stages of a tournament in the last 2 decades. I was surprised as well, the player pool is huge. Pretty sure we still end up with a few sheeps
, we always do.Very true. Some big nations have fallen right on their arses on occasion.
...sheep shouldn't be a problem, though. Plenty of anything but big nations have fallen on their arses too!
Carlton Palmer: Euro 1992
Potential good sheep North Korea players of 2010? Zaire of 1974? Saudi Arabia of 2002? China of 2002 Greece 1994 I've heard were diabolical too
Edit; I guess the Zaire players would have been born before 1960.
North Korea players of 2010? Zaire of 1974? Saudi Arabia of 2002? China of 2002 Greece 1994 I've heard were diabolical too Edit; I guess the Zaire players would have been born before 1960.
Don't think Zaire fielded any 14 year olds, no?
Djemba Djemba is eligible too! If you pick up a sheep, Anto, you can demand to have him again - you could sport four Djembas as a bank of four in the middle.
Don't think Zaire fielded any 14 year olds, no?
They probably did, technically.
Only four Djemba-Djembas!
He only played 4 years at Inter, if I remember correctly. I've seem him play brilliantly for years at Lautern, then he became the record Bundesliga transfer when Bayern bought him for 2m and he came back to Germany when he was still a great player. I don't consider him a clear cut Serie A player at all, just because he played there when we the worldcup. Half our team played in Italy at the time. Pretty sure I have a different view, because I mainly followed the Bundesliga while you guys probably rarely saw German football but followed Serie A during its peak. I see Brehme as a K'lautern player first, but that's what Chesterle said, so yeah I agree.
Sent my pick in.
5 to go.
'Tis a good point. These days we can pretty much follow what we want - but back then, especially prior to what is commonly called the Sky era (a wee bit into the 90s, say), you were at the mercy of whatever was available to a much larger extent.
And going back even further it was a whole different ballgame in terms of world wide exposure. I remember watching Zico in '82 as a wee lad - it was like seeing a ghost materialize on your TV screen. I had never seen him play before - he was just a legend to me. I'd studied painfully average Middlesbrough players in detail compared to what I'd seen of the great Zico.
Very true Chester. I still remember my first glipses of 90s Serie A on Channel 4. James Richardson, Peter Brackley etc etc. And it just completely captured the imagination. It felt like access to football from another universe. And then a few years later on Channel 5 staying up til about 4am watching Argentine footy.
These days you see everything, from Boca to Barca, at the touch of a buttom almost. Feels like every day someone is retweeting a you tube clip of the next Brazilian superstar scoring a bycicle kick.
These days you see everything, from Boca to Barca, at the touch of a buttom almost. Feels like every day someone is retweeting a you tube clip of the next Brazilian superstar scoring a bycicle kick.
Same here, that Inter stint to me was more a story of German side of Milan vs. Dutch side of Milan. Funny you would meet so often in that period as well!
I've mentioned this before, but our fodder here in the late 70s/early 80s was the Bundesliga, it was only post-82 we started getting Serie A and La Liga. We only got the EPL/First Division when cable arrived.
It's a completely random fact, but being under a dictatorship content was heavily controlled and, while they soon enough realised football was the best way to occupy people's minds, the state channel initially went for the Bundesliga as a league that was bound to project the right "messages". They also had this god awful show where coloured teams competed with each other doing spastic tasks like running over a pool stepping on floating stuff along the way, or battled with giant ear candles while keeping their balance on a log (know which one I mean? I saw something very similar in Japanese TV years later). The commentary was hilarious because it was a German chap who spoke Spanish with a heavy accent and a very strange sense of humour. He tried to sound excited about what was going on but it felt like watching a documentary with idiots getting soaked and muddy.
Anyhow, point is, being the underdog lover I am I watched Bayern but supported Koln (Littbarski
), Werder Bremen and Leverkusen subject to who was playing for them/mounting a challenge. It was more an All But Bayern thing which had no basis other than Bayern being the big team in recent times (and Matthaus). I loved watching Bayern though and Otto Renhagel actually made my life even harder when he moved there from Werder. That said, by then I was mostly following Juve and then the Milan teams in Serie A, with occasional La Liga (I tried avoid it as Real were rampant and it was fecking annoying).Anyhow, yeah, I get the point on Brehme. Always liked him back then, and Briegel, why else do you think I keep sticking up for him every time he is treated as just some chap who played for Germany? Cracking player as well.
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I remember how crazy people were about those Serie A shows when I moved to the UK. There I was going "what's the big deal? it's the fecking English League I've been dying to get a glimpse of"
A lot of sheep so far. Everybody will be fielding sheep at this pace.
Thats me picked now too
A lot of sheep so far. Everybody will be fielding sheep at this pace.
That should be only 4 left now.
Gonna be some cracking sheep in this round
I remember how crazy people were about those Serie A shows when I moved to the UK. There I was going "what's the big deal? it's the fecking English League I've been dying to get a glimpse of"
Ha! To me the Italian League was something exotic! Instead of Nigel Spackman they had Rui Costa. The excitement when a 68 year old Ruud Gullit signed for Chelsea and walked into the team of the season.
Indeed - I would've been...16...when the Football Italia thing was launched on Channel 4. It had a lot to do with Gazza, of course - so in that sense the old booze hound certainly did us a great service. But in general a revolution took place in those years - following Sky. The whole concept changed, really. For worse in one sense - but in terms of what you, as a lowly fan, could actually get your hands on from the world of football it was magnificent.
3 to go.