So 8 down, 8 to go?
The First Redcafe Sheep Draft
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Yep.
That's me picked now too
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Pick submitted.
6 more
A rapid rate.
A rapid rate.
Pick submitted!
WHAT IS THIS?!
5 more
5 more
Where?
I didn't receive anything.
Now? Should have gone through
Yeah.
Do you guys having a theme/formation in mind? or just gambling on big name players and try to link them in somehow later?
@AldoPaine18 can you update the results and banned list in OP.
Getting confused on who got banned and who's available! Thanks.
Getting confused on who got banned and who's available! Thanks.
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Who's left to go?
@Edgar Allan Pillow Yes, I did have a theme & formation in mind but it went out the window almost straight away!
@Edgar Allan Pillow Yes, I did have a theme & formation in mind but it went out the window almost straight away!
Done.
Banned Players 10:
Subs: Redondo
Subs: Redondo
@AldoPaine18 perhaps we should make the sheep process faster? Because I think we should know who we got as our sheep before the next round begins.
Probably replace Ronaldo and Messi, makes more sense to be fairBanned Players 10:
Subs: Redondo
Anto still banging on about it
Let's get something straight first. You were being offered Heskey and you cried out of having him. He is 10 times the player as Djemba so if you are keep going to use a player as a barometer then it has to be Emile.
I don't think Kuyt was that much of a better player than Heskey. You will have people who will argue that Heskey was better.
Anderson I agree on, he should not be a sheep here.
You are missing the laughing stock element there. I said Heskey shouldn't be a sheep quality-wise. The whole point with him is derision, with Kuyt you get the quality and he is by no means a laughing stock. Defensive winger and all that, I can post a clip of his goals against us and you'll stop laughing rather quickly.
I'm not arsed really, I just noticed in one of those drafts the big sticking point at the end was some had got "playable" guys and some didn't, which just doesn't sit right with me. In any case, something for me to improve for the next draft. It is as likely that you will play Kuyt as Redouane.
Expected to agree on Anderson, you did make the one unquestionable point re: Sheasy (sympathy). Same there.
I don't really understand how you can assess "toughness of round" in any objective way. A certain bald Frenchman glided past that round unchallenged. Fitting.
Whether Kuyt is that much better than Heskey, Jaybezia and others can decide. But the point stands, if any player is being used as a standard it can't be Djemba, make it Heskey. Regardless sheep standard can not be maintained, if we have a round of ballon'dor winners then what happens?
I actually thought he was nailed on to be Snipers pre-92 chap. MJJ got lucky there. It's bad enough getting a sheep, but even worse if it comes after going into the depths of admitting a scouse legend into your side.
You can't see the difference between rounds 1 and 2?
Round 1 was much easier. A huge pool of players, therefore, the shit at the bottom is worse. There was never going to be a Heskey or a Djemba scoring in a CL final.
Round 3 will throw up some horrendous sheep so don't worry. Heskey/Djemba will not look out of place soon. If I fail I fully expect someone as bad as Titus Bramble or worse.
Really, if a drafter was gonna fail, Round 2 was the round to do it in. So far.
Kuyt is a squad player. I'd equate him to Park Ji Sung, and that is by no means a sheep pick.
Sheep picks must be laughably bad!
Sheep picks must be laughably bad!
Fine, Kuyt is vetoed. Move on.
We are all fecked since half the eligible ones are banned already
As said, moving on from this, but I may as well highlight what the logic was supposed to be: either complete shit or laughing stock to the point even if reasonably good he would be a negative. Kalou, Kuyt, Belletti, etc. don't fit that description in my book.
TBH, the research is simple given how broad the question is. If it were red cards in European competitions, fine, but anything at club level? It's basically everyone minus a few so just check the one you want just in case. I've only found 3 who wouldn't qualify in my top 20 picks for the next round.
Had one, not any more really, not until I get 4-5 players in at least.
Yeah I deliberately made it a bit easier, earlier I had thought of making it just the league sending offs but a few are still grasping the whole concept so I want to keep it relaxed.
If you really want to get something that would take real research it can be done in future, not an issue.
Except that there are a few. The name of one of them is even pronounce "Hairy".
I personally found this last round easier because it helped keep things in focus. The first question and this one are so broad you certainly can escape a sheep but there's a certain quality standard of picked player you want to stick to and ultimately you don't fail due to lack of options but just mindfecking yourself that you want the best but the best are likely picked, etc.
I'm completely clueless as to who to pick next. Absolutely no idea tbh. Why? Too many options.
How many left?
I've got a system and will pick players to fit it.
Yeah I deliberately made it a bit easier, earlier I had thought of making it just the league sending offs but a few are still grasping the whole concept so I want to keep it relaxed.
If you really want to get something that would take real research it can be done in future, not an issue.
It actually took the same amount of research to check 20 players for reds as it takes to check them for league reds (the most common, obviously). I seem to prefer smaller pools for some reason, particularly at this stage. Later on when you and others need specific positions these broader pools would be handy.
Let's see how it pans out though, it's all experimental after all.
Have you patented it already?
Is there an up-to-date list of who picked what anywhere?
I have a set-up in mind - but it's very specific to getting in certain players. More specifically, I believe I need a certain level of player in crucial positions - and by level I really mean status, i.e. how big a name they are - in order to convince the voters.
First page, 5th post or something like that, Aldo's first post after the op.