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The First Redcafe Sheep Draft
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I agree with this, I was surprised that we have such a huge player pool now.
You can say that now because you scared one of the managers away from Koeman with your open-book posts, you were heading for another block till late on in that pick.
I understand what you mean, smaller pools are much more likely to pay you off on a gamble as a lot of managers would stick to safe picks (just like we saw).
I'm curious how the last round will affect the behaviour of the managers in the next rounds. More managers going for the big names? Or even less, thanks to reverse psychology? Pretty sure Antohan can share a few interesting concepts with us, what 'in theory' should happen now
.I'm willing to bet my life savings that a certain name will be blocked in the first pick of this round
You can say that now because you scared one of the managers away from Koeman with your open-book posts, you were heading for another block till late on in that pick.
Good to hear someone else rates him. But no, it has nothing to do with not having got a sheep there, I prefer the focus from narrower pools. I started listing who each manager may go for and ended up with a truckload for each, add them second-guessing themselves... got nowhere.
Speaking of Koeman, I have some question from @Pippa to get back to.
Aye, exactly, this one has way too many great options and the deciding factor won't be quality or system (very little going by way of that), it will just be how each individual mind works. I think I have a rrived at who the top pick will be and it's by no means the obvious ones.
Have the sheeps been decided yet? Are we going with anto's list?
I'm curious how the last round will affect the behaviour of the managers in the next rounds. More managers going for the big names? Or even less, thanks to reverse psychology? Pretty sure Antohan can share a few interesting concepts with us, what 'in theory' should happen now
Had there been less options I reckon the big name would have been toast, but there are far too many of them. I would expect a big name to slip through not because people avoided him but because far too many risk-takers wind up deciding on 1-2 other alternatives. Second round will be a mindfeck here.
We haven't heard anything from Jaybezia yet.
How many are left to pick @AldoPaine18 ?
I think that makes sense, Aldo. The managers should know what sheep they have before they make their next pick, it might affect the pick. Let's say someone gets a leftback sheep and then picks a leftback and both are decided at the same time, the sheep now is useless and it's not the manager's fault. The sheeps should be decided at the latest 6 hours after the new criteria is out, so that the managers have more than enough time to plan with the sheeps. Might not be important now, but in the last 4 or 5 rounds it certainly is.
I think we should close round 1 by tonight. Seems pointless going into tomorrow. We can extend second round deadline to 24 hours if needed.
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We'll decide the sheep in next few hours, by evening, and from next time the sheep must be announced a minimum of 12 hours before the next round's first pick are announced, instead the same time.
Let's wait for everyone to submit first. We'll decide then.
You feckers are too impatient, though.
PICKS IN THIS ROUND WITHOUT LINKS WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED.
I'm willing to bet my life savings that a certain name will be blocked in the first pick of this round
You'd think. Surely!
Still a bit stunned at the last round.
Accidentally broke my laptop screen yesterday night, currently using my littler brothers one, sorry to you lot if i've delayed anything, if i can still get involved that would be mint, otherwise i understand if its to late.
Yeah man you've got plenty of time left to pick.
Only 10 mins left to deadline
It's more the overall package of course. We talk a lot about ball-playing defenders and if they can put a pass here or there every now and then they suddenly become different from a stopper. Koeman was miles ahead though, his passing was just from a different planet as far as defenders are concerned, and I mean ball-playing ones. It wasn't just the ease with which he could spray pinpoint passes all over the pitch but his football brain overall, which made them sublime, incisive and devastating.
I rate him higher as a defender and defence leader from his days with PSV and in a back four, the back threes Cruyff deployed left him far too exposed at times to pacey strikers playing off the shoulder (not his strength, which is where a defensive partner would help). When Barca played four at the back it was largely the other chap doing the heavy-lifting, but then his qualities and contribution to the buildup could be exploited to their full extent without them entailing such a significant risk.
I'm not too sure what was best though, the back three or four. The risk of having him solo doing everything was still worth taking considering how much he contributed to the side overall, the extra man elsewhere, and how it forced opponents to leave space between the lines or be punished by a ball over the top (which invariably happened when they inevitably fell behind anyway and had to push up!). It did occasionally lead to open goalfests though, but I still enjoyed those as most times the Dream Team had more in their locker to come up top.
It's a difficult one to manage, particularly with how erratic the picking of partners and the rest of the side is bound to be, but I've wanted to have a go for some time now. If I were facing a Romario type you sure would want to see someone next to him, no question, but how often do you face someone like that? That's one issue with drafts and rating players in the real-world vs. in drafts. He may not be ideal for multi-era things like this when the striker pool is much more impressive than in your average league/CL season, but in the real world where what you really want is to establish your dominance and make your superiority count every week against 80-90% of the sides, why on earth would you worry and get him a partner?
Yeah Koeman was an exceptional passer. Much of Barcelona's game pivoted around his delivery. The calibre of footballer you'd want to build a team around and the sort of defender whose weaknesses you'd want to compensate for.
Have the sheep been picked? I will not be picking without knowing my sheep. Also, this is sully's pick and he isn't online.
Sheep Picks :
@crappycraperson - Arnold Scholten (midfielder)
@VivaJanuzaj - Ubaldo Righetti (right back)
@Gio - Dragisa Binic (striker)
@Polaroid - Anton Janssen (midfielder)
@Jayvin - Hajry Redouane (midfielder)
@crappycraperson - Arnold Scholten (midfielder)
@VivaJanuzaj - Ubaldo Righetti (right back)
@Gio - Dragisa Binic (striker)
@Polaroid - Anton Janssen (midfielder)
@Jayvin - Hajry Redouane (midfielder)
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Who???
You missed NM there. Chesterle suggested Arnold Scholten, which sounds about right.
I thought Jbezia was going to assign sheeps? What happened to that? Why was that change made if it was not going to be followed anyway?
And I am not taking a striker since Antohan cried out of having Heskey as well. Give me a midfielder too
He was but he hasn't showed up for hours. So for this round I'm doing it. It's fair that you guys know the sheep before you have to submit the next round's picks.
Fine, give me a minute.
You can take Arnold Scholten.
Fine
First time I'm hearing about my RB.. can anyone tell me something about this fella? Besides the fact that he scored a penalty shootout against Liverpool?
He's wiki page is insulting
He's wiki page is insulting
Anyone has an issue with the position of the player they have, let me know asap
Edit : Before the Round 3 Pick 1 is announced. No changes after that.
Edit : Before the Round 3 Pick 1 is announced. No changes after that.
But, but, you vetoed his appointment
Problem with that is he could be mistaken for Antonio Pacheco, who was/is in fact quite a decent player. Seeing as sully/NM were hellbent on van Basten or Sheva it would be fitting that they get Juary to spearhead their attack, seeing as crappy isn't having him.
First time I'm hearing about my RB.. can anyone tell me something about this fella? Besides the fact that he scored a penalty shootout against Liverpool?
He's wiki page is insulting
8 caps man! For Italy in the 80s? I'd say the best of the lot. Proper average, nothing distinct about him really.
But, but, you vetoed his appointment
Problem with that is he could be mistaken for Antonio Pacheco, who was/is in fact quite a decent player. Seeing as sully/NM were hellbent on van Basten or Sheva it would be fitting that they get Juary to spearhead their attack, seeing as crappy isn't having him.
Is that (another) veto?