The First Redcafe Sheep Draft

antohan said:
Excellent pick, fits you to a tee. I was surprised you didn't go there first but I guess Edgar was more likely to be interested in Vieira.

Mmmmm, anyone wonder how that Tito front three would work with Hagi-Totti-Stoichkov? :drool:
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What are your thoughts on Suarez Totti Laudrup?

This was heavily considered.
 
Thisistheone said:
What are your thoughts on Suarez Totti Laudrup?

This was heavily considered.
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Terrible idea, Stoichkov is the far far better option.

You would only want Laudrup to do what Totti is doing, and he is doing just fine so far. In fact, I may even stick to Savicevic ahead of Laudrup there. Too many cooks spoil the broth and all that.
 
antohan said:
Terrible idea, Stoichkov is the far far better option.

You would only want Laudrup to do what Totti is doing, and he is doing just fine so far. In fact, I may even stick to Savicevic ahead of Laudrup there. Too many cooks spoil the broth and all that.
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Yeah that was the worry. And because of what you say, selling it in the match thread would have been hard work.
 
antohan said:
Terrible idea, Stoichkov is the far far better option.

You would only want Laudrup to do what Totti is doing, and he is doing just fine so far. In fact, I may even stick to Savicevic ahead of Laudrup there. Too many cooks spoil the broth and all that.
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It's quite interesting/refreshing that everybody so far has avoided Laudrup for that very reason, rather than just throwing him in there with the other no10s and hoping to soak up the scan-voters.
 
Gio said:
It's quite interesting/refreshing that everybody so far has avoided Laudrup for that very reason, rather than just throwing him in there with the other no10s and hoping to soak up the scan-voters.
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In fairness, I don't think Laudrup gets much by way of scan votes. I didn't expect him to be picked here: Edgar already has a wealth of options, Tito had Totti, you had Rivaldo and Hagi and Pol has Zidane. I wouldn't have picked him myself. I have bugger all idea who I would have gone for though. Probably Stoichkov and Davids.
 
Pat_Mustard said:
Come to think of it Romario and Shevchenko with Baggio in behind would be bloody nice as well!
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I still prefer that Baggio-Romario-Rui Costa trinista. So Baggio can focus more in scoring, with Rui Costa provides linking-up midfield to attack (which I think he's better in that role than Baggio).
 
Thisistheone said:
Yeah that was the worry. And because of what you say, selling it in the match thread would have been hard work.
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Maybe stating the obvious, but Stoickhov-Suarez-Savicevic with Totti as no. 10 would be devastating.

But it's more balance with Makelele-Vieira-Scholes in midfield, and Stoickhov-Totti-Savicevic in attack. Suarez shouldn't get near those giants, imho.
 
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antohan said:
:lol: I love you Iso.

They really should have taken Laudrup, no?
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Feck me. Stoickhov-Totti-Savicevic, with Laudrup as no. 10. (or even with Suarez instead of Totti/Stoickhov) and It guarantees my vote, for sure. Who fecking cares about team's balance, when you have those players :lol:.
 
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Isotope said:
But it's more balance with Makelele-Vieira-Scholes in midfield, and Stoickhov-Totti-Savicevic in attack. Suarez shouldn't get near those giants, imho.
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Exactly, no need to make it top heavy. I'm not sure on Suárez or Savicevic, Suárez definitely has more goals in him. Good thing they can go for either subject to rivals.

I would actually far sooner (ignoring Suarez/Savicevic) have Stoichkov on the left as Pessotto doesn't do much up that flank and you want Stoichkov on the opposite flank to Cafú IMO. And Cafú being there makes Savicevic absolutely fine despite him not hugging the line or anything of the sort.

So yeah, before wondering over Suárez' and Savicevic's relative merits you would look at how to get the best out of the flanks and Stoichkov is better deployed on the left. Unless of course there are powerful reasons to play Suárez ahead of Savicevic.
 
Polaroid : 1. Lahm 2. Thuram :D
Gio : 1. Nedved 2. Brehme
Thisistheone : 1. Vieira 2. Stoichkov
Edgar Allan Pillow : 1. Romario 2. Desailly
 
antohan said:
Exactly, no need to make it top heavy. I'm not sure on Suárez or Savicevic, Suárez definitely has more goals in him. Good thing they can go for either subject to rivals.

I would actually far sooner (ignoring Suarez/Savicevic) have Stoichkov on the left as Pessotto doesn't do much up that flank and you want Stoichkov on the opposite flank to Cafú IMO. And Cafú being there makes Savicevic absolutely fine despite him not hugging the line or anything of the sort.

So yeah, before wondering over Suárez' and Savicevic's relative merits you would look at how to get the best out of the flanks and Stoichkov is better deployed on the left. Unless of course there are powerful reasons to play Suárez ahead of Savicevic.
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Agreed that Stoickhov is a must. Two footed, can play in both flanks, fast, skilful, creative, team player, and a leader. Would be nice to see him teamed up with his old mate Laudrup, though.
 
Polaroid said:
Polaroid : 1. Lahm 2. Thuram :D
Gio : 1. Nedved 2. Brehme
Thisistheone : 1. Vieira 2. Stoichkov
Edgar Allan Pillow : 1. Romario 2. Desailly
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What a roster :drool:

Strange thing though is, I can still think about 1-2 things each team could improve on, sometimes quite significantly.

Edgar looking the strongest right now IMO. Difficult to work through all his defensive options but this looks best to me with Desailly dropping into a three.

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It's quite possible Desailly would play next to Maldini, Sammer where Desailly is... My issue though is I don't really rate Xabi or Cambiasso at this stage.
 
crappycraperson said:
Yeah..

Only one who could have hurt you with Alaba in the team is TITO. But I don't think it would have been game losing..
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Agree, Bale is increasingly an eyesore among all these great players. Not sure what happened since the Decades Draft, but no one wanted him then despite two 80s players being compulsory and a bit of an issue to come by. Now he is playing semis?

Remember Gio has Nedved though, but yeah, I tend to agree Alaba wouldn't be a particularly significant problem. I actually think he's got more stick than he warranted so far.
 
antohan said:
Agree, Bale is increasingly an eyesore among all these great players. Not sure what happened since the Decades Draft, but no one wanted him then despite two 80s players being compulsory and a bit of an issue to come by. Now he is playing semis?

Remember Gio has Nedved though, but yeah, I tend to agree Alaba wouldn't be a particularly significant problem. I actually think he's got more stick than he warranted so far.
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Alaba + Giggs would not get too much stick since
- people will give credit to giggs in helping out
- the other 3 in defense are top class
 
Absolutely, and Nedved and Stoichkov would give you grief whether you played Alaba or Lahm.
 
antohan said:
My issue though is I don't really rate Xabi or Cambiasso at this stage.
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Why not?

Alonso is the closest to Pirlo. Not as good in playmaking byt better defensively. If you are can maintain possession Pirlo to playmake, or if you are looking for rapid counters, Alonso will be better, right?

And Cambiasso, who has a better record list than Di Stefano, completely unrated?
 
Bad draw for Edgar. Gio has a solid 4 in the middle which will make it difficult for him to score even with that front 3.. on other other hand Gio's 2 wingers will ensure his full backs can not be too adventurous.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Why not?

Alonso is the closest to Pirlo. Not as good in playmaking byt better defensively. If you are can maintain possession Pirlo to playmake, or if you are looking for rapid counters, Alonso will be better, right?

And Cambiasso, who has a better record list than Di Stefano, completely unrated?
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Cambiasso what? They are both alright, I just don't think they are the calibre needed at this stage. I'd agree you probably need Sammer further back though but then I would have picked another midfielder instead of Desailly. You certainly don't really need him in defence, not more than you need a stronger midfield. It has been your weakest/most questionable spot from the start.

Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Why is Weidenfeller listed as a sheep anto? :lol:
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Just taking the piss ;)
 
crappycraperson said:
Bad draw for Edgar. Gio has a solid 4 in the middle which will make it difficult for him to score even with that front 3.. on other other hand Gio's 2 wingers will ensure his full backs can not be too adventurous.
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Not quite sure on that. Different formation have different advantages. No easy draws at this stage, though. Needs hard sell!
 
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antohan said:
I'd agree you probably need Sammer further back though but then I would have picked another midfielder instead of Desailly. You certainly don't really need him in defence, not more than you need a stronger midfield. It has been your weakest/most questionable spot from the start.
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Desailly is good enough for defence. Sammer's scoring record with Stuttgart, Inter and initially with Dortmund is definitely above average. He will fit perfectly in the middle with a slight lean towards attacking.
 
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