i am blocking the fullbacks crappy!!
The First Redcafe Sheep Draft
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Who're we waiting for? MJJ and/or Sniper's? Would be good to get this round all wrapped up.
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I'm not too fussed at all, love every one of my starting XI. If I end up empty handed I don't really give a feck. In fact, will try get blocked as the longer I'm in it both my pick AND block act as blocks
And who chooses to pick him? The manager does. Of course he is responsible.
I'm not fussed about the specific case, but it's a point of principle here: managers are responsible for submitting eligible picks, not mods for alerting them if they screw up. Say the mods didn't notice and passed him, the round finishes, and only then someone notices the passed player was ineligible... You are not re-running the entire round, are you? The manager who fecked up gets a sheep, simple.
This is exactly why I told Aldo I wanted him running it, can't be arsed with potentially spineless modding that is too accommodating. If you feck up you feck up, it's no one's fault but yours.
TBH, it's all quite erratic because there are 16 managers guessing what the other 15 need and blocking it, while also second-guessing what others will block. There's bound to be too many on some players and none at all on others.
It's quite simple a lottery.
That's fair and well - and I agree completely that the modding shouldn't be too lenient. But this particular round is a tricky one. If a manager submits a non-valid pick, a player who isn't eligible to begin with, and this is treated effectively as just another blocked player - well, it doesn't make sense strictly speaking. Said manager must then, provided his second pick is a pass, pick a different player based on the club the non-eligible player (who shouldn't be in the equation at all) played for. That's lacking somewhat in the department of...logic.
It's a minor and perhaps ridiculously technical point, by all means.
In any other round this wouldn't matter - as the ineligible player has no bearing on the other pick. Then you may simply call it "fail" and move on.
I found that really disturbing
. It took me about a year to play table tennis again after my brother talked me into watching that 'show'. God, I hate you, thanks to you, I probably need another year now.Lol. Yes, all of them. I bet my first pick gets blocked, but somebody is definitely going to get a star
Crappy was right in his comparison. Imagine a double block, then in round two you pick another pair from a different club and, unknown to the manager, one is no longer eligible because he got picked in attempt 1. It's a partial pass. Same here, the difference is instead of being unknown to the manager it is him screwing up, more of a reason NOT to be lenient.
Again, bugger all to do with Sniper and this particular case, just a point of principle, the crux of the matter is the manager screws up so under no circumstances is whatever the mods decide questionable.
There's only 4-5 players I would like to see blocked solidly across the three rounds because they seem to become superhuman during games. The rest? Meh, feel free to improve/polish your side, I don't have an issue with that at all.
I found that really disturbing
I wasn't too bothered about the ping pong (despite one of them balls actually hitting me, which was a bit yucky). The smoking though...
I went with a girl-friend of mine and her taking the stage was the highlight of the evening, probably not just for me. Ended up entering a nightclub via the backdoor, got lost in some deposit area with a piano and did a Pretty Woman reenactment on it. Fond memories for me, so may bring it up again.
My brother was equally luckyI wasn't too bothered about the ping pong (despite one of them balls actually hitting me, which was a bit yucky). The smoking though...
I went with a girl-friend of mine and her taking the stage was the highlight of the evening, probably not just for me. Ended up entering a nightclub via the backdoor, got lost in some deposit area with a piano and did a Pretty Woman reenactment on it. Fond memories for me, so may bring it up again.
Yes, I get all that - but there is a difference: The players who were already picked/blocked prior to the round are ineligible before the round. The players in your example are fair game as far as the manager is concerned - that they have in fact been picked in that round is part and parcel of the game, and he's screwed in accordance with the premises of the game itself. To me it seems like the players in my category (already picked/blocked before the round starts) are somewhere beyond those premises in this particular example.
It is not the mod's job to check each pick against those already picked, thus it's the same logic: the manager is responsible for not having checked availability. You may say it's fairly easy to work it out off the top of your head (then why isn't it for the manager?) but you have to bear in mind the mods have been exposed to way more players than those picked. Not just the result of changed picks but contingency plans when possibly unavailable.
E.g. I lost internet connectivity yesterday (28 fecking hours to fix a phone line
) so I went to a coffee shop, logged in and for this round alone I submitted 10 different names: the two that passed, two backups for each player, then a second pair if both were blocked, third attempt backup for those and a third pair in case there was a second double-block.How can you expect them to accurately remember who has or hasn't been picked? Should they go double check every pick? Not in my book.
It is not the mod's job to check each pick against those already picked, thus it's the same logic: the manager is responsible for not having checked availability. You may say it's fairly easy to work it out off the top of your head (then why isn't it for the manager?) but you have to bear in mind the mods have been exposed to way more players than those picked. Not just the result of changed picks but contingency plans when possibly unavailable.
E.g. I lost internet connectivity yesterday (28 fecking hours to fix a phone line
How can you expect them to accurately remember who has or hasn't been picked? Should they go double check every pick? Not in my book.
I agree with the principle - that ain't the issue. I'm just - and probably stupidly - hung up on the particulars here.
It seems to me that you would have to punish a manager in a different way for screwing up this round - if you simply count it as a failed pick when someone picks a player who is - again - ineligible to begin with, this becomes a particular sort of problem. You need to either punish the manager in some other way, other than calling his pick a regular "fail" OR you have to be lenient with the fecker. Or so it seems to me.
But, again, this isn't a big deal - I'm debating the point out of boredom more than anything! What's important here is that whoever hasn't submitted his second pick, does so. I'm eager to see an end to this bloody round.
Same here. I've been mulling over the disparate mechanisms you guys want to try out in drafts but I'm worried too much unexpected shit happening may result in long lags like this one. Just having two picks per question has drastically increased the waiting time, can you consistently handle more complexity than that?
I have no idea for my pick -_-
Feel free to PM me with your needs, bored senseless here and it's not like it will have any impact going forward at this stage.
Not unless you suggest he gets the fecker I've picked...
Seriously, though - give him all the assistance in the world. Let's just close the book here.
I have something coming up, so if we don't see any developments here within the next...let's see...half an hour, I won't be checking in again until sometime tomorrow. Probably just as well, come to think of it - the final round will be big. No sense in rushing it, I guess.
Hopefully not the same club
Right, that's me out. I'll report back tomorrow - should be fairly early but you never know. Before noon at least. Take care, gentlemen.
Christ, there's NO WAY I would keep correcting submissions as a mod.
MJJ just sent me five options he is considering, three don't qualify at all didn't even play with the other fecker
People talked so much about French Ligue rightbacks he seems to have completely forgotten about them having to play for the same team!
His best options aren't in the five either... He has two and, if it's the same club, Chesterle's pick is bloody obvious as well. Should both be fine really. Or not, his call.
@Snipers Breath , have you submitted?
MJJ just sent me five options he is considering, three don't qualify at all didn't even play with the other fecker
People talked so much about French Ligue rightbacks he seems to have completely forgotten about them having to play for the same team!His best options aren't in the five either... He has two and, if it's the same club, Chesterle's pick is bloody obvious as well. Should both be fine really. Or not, his call.
@Snipers Breath , have you submitted?
Sorry about lack of formatting..
Chesterlestreet - PASS
MJJ - PASS
Snipers Breath - FAIL (player already picked)
@Snipers Breath needs to pick again.
Chesterlestreet - PASS
MJJ - PASS
Snipers Breath - FAIL (player already picked)
@Snipers Breath needs to pick again.
OooooooooooBAAAAAHHH !!!!
Snipers havin a mare
Round 9 Pick 3 :
Snipers Breath - PASS
Complete results in a few minutes.
Snipers Breath - PASS
Complete results in a few minutes.
He's got no sheep though so... oops... maybe he is still missing a fullback?
Boooooooooooo.
Played Snipes.
Played Snipes.
I am indeed!
Complete Round 9 Results :
antohan - David Ginola and Edinson Cavani
Balu - Christian Ziege and Toni Kroos
Thisistheone - Deco and Javier Mascherano
crappycraperson - Gary Pallister and Fabian Barthez
Chesterlestreet - John Mensah and Florent Malouda
VivaJanuzaj - Paul Ince and Hernan Crespo
Gio - Christian Panucci and Michel
Cutch - Santiago Canizares and Ivan Helguera
Edgar Allan Pillow - Manuel Sanchis and Esteban Cambiasso
Pippa - Paulo Sousa and Dino Baggio
Polaroid - Manuel Neuer and Mats Hummels
MJJ - Eric Abidal and Dario Simic
Stobzilla - Wes Brown and Juan Mata
Jayvin - Zvonimir Boban and Zlatan Ibrahimovic
sullydnl - Miguel Angel Nadal and Jari Litmanen
Snipers Breath - Rafael Marquez and Radamel Falcao
antohan - David Ginola and Edinson Cavani
Balu - Christian Ziege and Toni Kroos
Thisistheone - Deco and Javier Mascherano
crappycraperson - Gary Pallister and Fabian Barthez
Chesterlestreet - John Mensah and Florent Malouda
VivaJanuzaj - Paul Ince and Hernan Crespo
Gio - Christian Panucci and Michel
Cutch - Santiago Canizares and Ivan Helguera
Edgar Allan Pillow - Manuel Sanchis and Esteban Cambiasso
Pippa - Paulo Sousa and Dino Baggio
Polaroid - Manuel Neuer and Mats Hummels
MJJ - Eric Abidal and Dario Simic
Stobzilla - Wes Brown and Juan Mata
Jayvin - Zvonimir Boban and Zlatan Ibrahimovic
sullydnl - Miguel Angel Nadal and Jari Litmanen
Snipers Breath - Rafael Marquez and Radamel Falcao
Jayvin wins that round.
Rush
Hagi-Aguero-Barnes
Veron-Vidal
Abidal-Vidic-Ayala-Simic
Valdes.
Thoughts??
Hagi-Aguero-Barnes
Veron-Vidal
Abidal-Vidic-Ayala-Simic
Valdes.
Thoughts??
Cool, some of our other options would've been blocked if we'd gone for them instead.
In one combination or another I almost went for
Hummels
Pallister
Sanchis
Nadal
Mascherano
Hummels
Pallister
Sanchis
Nadal
Mascherano
I've got this now going into the final round. Very happy with how it's gone.
Looking great Cutch, a lot of fitting improvements around so you can certainly win it and keep the theme.