Aye I looked into this last night. Spotted a couple of right-backs who weren't quite sheep, but clear weak links at this level.
The First Redcafe Sheep Draft
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Re: The rules and Sniper's case. Just one thing to note: Picking a player who doesn't meet the criteria is a simple "fail" according to the rules (that has been stated clearly). However, submitting a player who has already been picked/blocked is another matter. The rules don't state anything specific about this - and I suppose this may be what the moderators have given Sniper's a heads-up about.
Banned stage is gonna be awesome... let's get it started.
Can't wildly disagree with that - but then again it does depend on how you set up.
In fairness one of them I rated quite highly in his day, but he might be a wee bit obscure for many on here.
Yep.. so many options and ways to go...
@AldoPaine18 a question regarding the banned round:
Do we know who everybody else picked?
For example:
Stage 1:
Aldopaine18 - picked Nesta(FAIL) Blocked Maldini
VivaJanuzaj - picked Lizarazu(PASS) Blocked Nesta
Antohan - picked Maldini(FAIL) Blocked Casillas
Balu - picked Roberto Carlos(PASS) Blocked Maicon
So a PASS in a player pick - will I know who the pass picked or is it like the previous rounds I will just know that Balu passed?
PSG one?
Nah, someone from around your neck of the woods.
Why the feck would I block Casillas? He is not even on the list! Do I come across as some sort of moron? Mind, Balu is even worse
Don't tease me, man...anyway, it could be the wrong club.
At RB? I can see where you are coming from at fullback, was on my remaining good/decent LB list all the way back when I picked Brehme.
@AldoPaine18
After every stage, I guess you will be revealing the players that pass.. but would you also be revealing the players that were blocked or picked by multiple people?
After every stage, I guess you will be revealing the players that pass.. but would you also be revealing the players that were blocked or picked by multiple people?
Yeah in this you will know the players who are picked.
The one I'm talking about is out of bounds, yes. However, clearly not the one Gio means, so keep digging.
No, just the passed players will be revealed and we start over in Stage with those who are left. (and the ones who passed but can now only block).
Why on earth would he do that?
Same for the blocked ones. I reckon it's best if we are all blind as a bat here. Even knowing who anyone placed a block on is telling.
And now the 4-4-2 is back. 
Why the feck would I block Casillas? He is not even on the list! Do I come across as some sort of moron? Mind, Balu is even worse
What's wrong with picking Carlos and blocking Maicon? Everyone wants fullbacks these days.
Sorry, but that does not make sense. Criteria only applies to eligible players. Ineligible players should not be picked, simple as. Picking one and getting a mod reprieve is a benefit, imo. We can debate one off reprieve as in crappy or sniper, but as a rule it does not stand.
Really? So we completely remove the "already picked" element?
That makes it rather interesting...
Because you need to know the player pool from which you can pick in the next stage.
What's wrong with picking Carlos and blocking Maicon? Everyone wants fullbacks these days.
Last I checked Carlos ain't German and Maicon, well, let's not go into it...
I don't really like it, it's open to... Ah well, I guess I'll do that then.
No big deal, I make him wear Lederhosen and he can start in my team.
And also:
can we pick the same player consecutively?
can we block the same player consecutively?
No and no.
You can only pick or block a player once in the whole round (that is all three stages).
Nope. Already in the rules, Read up
Pool -
Romario, Roy Keane, Fernando Redondo, Alessandro Nesta, Phillip Lahm, Frank Rijkaard, Cristiano Ronaldo, Paolo Maldini, Marco Van Basten, Lionel Messi, Ashley Cole, Bixente Lizarazu, Thierry Henry, Luis Ronaldo, Lothar Matthaus, Ronaldinho, Luis Figo, Javier Zanetti, Gabriel Batistuta, Xavi, Franck Ribery, Clarence Seedorf, Roberto Carlos, Marc Overmars, Andres Iniesta, Cesc Fabregas,
Pep Guardiola, Thiago Silva, Alessandro Del Piero, Maicon, Claudio Taffarel, Gennaro Gattuso, Laurent Blanc, Guiseppe Bergomi, Petr Cech, Edwin Van Der Sar, Gianluigi Buffon, David Seaman, Tony Adams, Andoni Zubizaretta, Oscar Ruggeri, Mehmet Scholl
mmmmm
Romario, Roy Keane, Fernando Redondo, Alessandro Nesta, Phillip Lahm, Frank Rijkaard, Cristiano Ronaldo, Paolo Maldini, Marco Van Basten, Lionel Messi, Ashley Cole, Bixente Lizarazu, Thierry Henry, Luis Ronaldo, Lothar Matthaus, Ronaldinho, Luis Figo, Javier Zanetti, Gabriel Batistuta, Xavi, Franck Ribery, Clarence Seedorf, Roberto Carlos, Marc Overmars, Andres Iniesta, Cesc Fabregas,
Pep Guardiola, Thiago Silva, Alessandro Del Piero, Maicon, Claudio Taffarel, Gennaro Gattuso, Laurent Blanc, Guiseppe Bergomi, Petr Cech, Edwin Van Der Sar, Gianluigi Buffon, David Seaman, Tony Adams, Andoni Zubizaretta, Oscar Ruggeri, Mehmet Scholl
mmmmm
Add Amoros as well in that. I'll update the OP after Round 9 is over.
It's a debatable point, certainly. But the rules don't say anything about such cases - so one can't say that it's a violation of the rules if a mod gives someone a heads-up regarding this.
Quite a pool of talent.
This round will shake things up somewhat.
This round will shake things up somewhat.
Also, looking at this from a quasi-legal point of view...the premise for this round is that both picks are eligible: You pick A (fail, because someone else has picked him) and B (pass, nobody else picked him). You're then required to pick C (a player who meets the general criteria and whose stint at club X did not coincide with player B's). All fair and well. But if player A wasn't eligible to begin with (because he had been picked in a previous round) the very premise crumbles, doesn't it?
So, if you're running this thing, what do you do: Tell the manager that he can't pick A (because he has been picked already, in a previous round) or just register his pick as a "fail"? The latter would seem to indicate that the player was eligible, no? But he clearly wasn't. And this fact, his ineligibility, has consequences beyond the manager not getting his pick. It influences the further proceedings directly - and that is highly dubious, one might argue.
So, if you're running this thing, what do you do: Tell the manager that he can't pick A (because he has been picked already, in a previous round) or just register his pick as a "fail"? The latter would seem to indicate that the player was eligible, no? But he clearly wasn't. And this fact, his ineligibility, has consequences beyond the manager not getting his pick. It influences the further proceedings directly - and that is highly dubious, one might argue.
Very much .. imagine someone getting either of Ronaldo-s or Rjjkard/Mathaus
This is why drafts let themselves down....
I won't lie, I'll be gutted/jealous if someone lands Matthaus or one of the other all-timers.
Can I block a player in one round but go for him in a later one ?
yeah.