I couldn't even enjoy an RPG at that pace. Same reason I never done Clive's sub-quest in Suikoden 2, despite him being one of my favourite characters.
Gaming The Final Fantasy Thread
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Wish there was some other way of getting that weapon.
I'll probably cheat it in at the end with epsxe next time I go through this and not feel too unclean about it. There's no way I'd ruin something as beautiful as FF9 by going through it in 12 hours.Yeah, there's another way to get it, but it involves leaving the game running for 2 or 3 years to clock the timer.
It's really an awful move putting that time limit on the sword, one very rare flaw in an absolute gem of a game. You need to be able to go through at your own pace, enjoy it, explore the world.
It's really an awful move putting that time limit on the sword, one very rare flaw in an absolute gem of a game. You need to be able to go through at your own pace, enjoy it, explore the world.
It must drive these perfect game completionists mad.
Yep, there isn't actually a point playing an RPG like that, more you explore better. I think that the only reason to do that is after multiple walkthrough to decide replaying the game only for that reason. It doesn't make sense playing in the first walkthrough like that.
Has anyone bought the Steam version of FFVII yet?
Is it worth £10 and are you able to mod it at all?
Is it worth £10 and are you able to mod it at all?
As well as the music patch, you can get different menus, mods to make the game more difficult, HD mods, etc...
What I didn't know was that you can get this:
It's well worth getting a PC version for that!
I think one of them is some sort of Advent Children mod, where as another is called Phoenix Rejuvenation or something. There are loads of graphics and resolution mods out there to bring it up to scratch with the characters somewhat and they can be used in conjunction.
What I didn't know was that you can get this:
It's well worth getting a PC version for that!
I think one of them is some sort of Advent Children mod, where as another is called Phoenix Rejuvenation or something. There are loads of graphics and resolution mods out there to bring it up to scratch with the characters somewhat and they can be used in conjunction.
Love those images!
If someone who is already playing VII with mods on Steam and is happy with the results, hit me up. I don't really know where to start
If someone who is already playing VII with mods on Steam and is happy with the results, hit me up. I don't really know where to start
Holy crap, yeah I'd get a PC version for that..... I'm at the Whirlwind Maze right now, and I'm still thinking of downloading to rig that up.
Does this not prove that Square's excuses are a little bit bollocks? If they even made a HD remake like that, everyone would go ape for it.
Also, one of those "why did it never dawn on me before moments", Shinra are just arriving at the Crater, with Highwind. If they had access to Highwind, why were they trying to take Tiny Bronco off of Cid?
Does this not prove that Square's excuses are a little bit bollocks? If they even made a HD remake like that, everyone would go ape for it.
Also, one of those "why did it never dawn on me before moments", Shinra are just arriving at the Crater, with Highwind. If they had access to Highwind, why were they trying to take Tiny Bronco off of Cid?
Glad to see you are playing my favorite game of all time Revan May not be the popular view but its the best final fantasy IMO, it doesn't break new ground but its just brings everything together very well.
May not be the popular view but its the best final fantasy IMO, it doesn't break new ground but its just brings everything together very well.I think 7 is the best, but tbh, I can see the argument for 9, damn near perfect game.
I was in two minds whether to post that knowing you were a good chunk of the way through.
Sorry!Always wondered about that with the Highwind. Didn't they have the Gelnika at that point, too? More the merrier maybe.
I was in two minds whether to post that knowing you were a good chunk of the way through.
Always wondered about that with the Highwind. Didn't they have the Gelnika at that point, too? More the merrier maybe.
Thinking about it, they had Highwind, Gelnika, both subs and probably various other transportation options that don't get involved in the game. I mean, they're constantly fecking about in helicopters.
Glad to see you are playing my favorite game of all time Revan
Yeah, a game back to basics of FF. I just finished the first disc, and while I am liking it, still not as much as FF6 and FF7. Anyway, the other posters are saying that it becomes better in the next two discs which is a great thing. The game seems to me much more difficult than 8, but that was probably the easiest game ever. And I love Zidane, the total opposite of Squall, it's impossible to not like him very much.
Thinking about it, they had Highwind, Gelnika, both subs and probably various other transportation options that don't get involved in the game. I mean, they're constantly fecking about in helicopters.
We'll just brush that little detail under the carpet and assume it's because they needed as much as possible...
For what it's worth, I also edge towards thinking 7 is the best FF. It's so close though and I've changed my mind so many times. At the moment, I'm thinking it has the best lead character in all of FF, easily the best villain, one of the best levelling systems and the best story (alongside 10's).
As overall packages without trying to pick one though, it's between 7, 9 and 10 for me. I know it's blasphemous to leave 6 out of the debate but I just think they are all stronger throughout and have a more engaging story/world. The collapse at the end of that game is too significant, and 7/10's story and 9's ATE and synth systems put them ahead on that basis in my opinion. The sidequests and optional extras are also in a different league.
We'll just brush that little detail under the carpet and assume it's because they needed as much as possible...
For what it's worth, I also edge towards thinking 7 is the best FF. It's so close though and I've changed my mind so many times. At the moment, I'm thinking it has the best lead character in all of FF, easily the best villain, one of the best levelling systems and the best story (alongside 10's).
As overall packages without trying to pick one, it's between 7, 9 and 10 for me. I know it's blasphemous to leave 6 out of the debate but I just think they are all stronger throughout and have a more engaging story/world. The collapse at the end of that game is too significant, and 7/10's story and 9's ATE and synth systems put them ahead on that basis in my opinion. The sidequests are also in a different league.
I haven't played 10, so going to exclude it.
Story: 7 = 6 > 4 = 8
Leveling up: 7 > 6 > 8 >> 4
Main character: 7 > 4 = 6 > 8
Companions: 6 > 7 > 8 > 4
Villain: 7 > 6 > 8 > 4
Overall: 7 > 6 > 4 > 8
I think that FF6 and FF7 are about two tiers above FF4 and FF8, with FF7 being slightly better than FF6. The world of balance in FF6 was the best part of the entire FF games I have played (and probably the best part of any game I have ever played) but the world of ruin was a big letdown. If it was as good as the first part of the game, it would have easily been my favorite game ever.
It's early FF9, but I am liking Zidane very much. Some of the companions seems very good too, especially Dagger, Vivi and Steiner. Not liking the leveling up that much and I think that there are more random battles than in other FF games I have played. Let's see what happens, but I am hoping that it is at-least a tier above FF4 and FF8 (Chrono Trigger tier).
We'll just brush that little detail under the carpet and assume it's because they needed as much as possible...
For what it's worth, I also edge towards thinking 7 is the best FF. It's so close though and I've changed my mind so many times. At the moment, I'm thinking it has the best lead character in all of FF, easily the best villain, one of the best levelling systems and the best story (alongside 10's).
As overall packages without trying to pick one though, it's between 7, 9 and 10 for me. I know it's blasphemous to leave 6 out of the debate but I just think they are all stronger throughout and have a more engaging story/world. The collapse at the end of that game is too significant, and 7/10's story and 9's ATE and synth systems put them ahead on that basis in my opinion. The sidequests and optional extras are also in a different league.
Hey, and Heddiger gets it by a truck, I'll take a little glossing over for that brilliant moment any time.
While 7 is my fave, 9 is very close, 8 and 10 not far behind either, I'm not sure where I'd fit 4, 5 and 6 though. Wasn't a major fan of the World of Ruin in 6 either.
I think the only one of the first 10 games I didn't enjoy at all though, was 2, entirely due to that fecked level system. It actually punished you for not being awful at it... somehow.
As for 7, just got the Highwind, and went off and done the Quadra Magic glitch. Fun about to happen.
First time getting Alexander(and the circlet the boss had, +30 to Mag and Spr for a spellcaster, yes please), instantly became my fave summon, just love the animation where he leans over even behemoth bosses and eyeballs them.
Hey, and Heddiger gets it by a truck, I'll take a little glossing over for that brilliant moment any time.
While 7 is my fave, 9 is very close, 8 and 10 not far behind either, I'm not sure where I'd fit 4, 5 and 6 though. Wasn't a major fan of the World of Ruin in 6 either.
I think the only one of the first 10 games I didn't enjoy at all though, was 2, entirely due to that fecked level system. It actually punished you for not being awful at it... somehow.
As for 7, just got the Highwind, and went off and done the Quadra Magic glitch. Fun about to happen.
First time getting Alexander(and the circlet the boss had, +30 to Mag and Spr for a spellcaster, yes please), instantly became my fave summon, just love the animation where he leans over even behemoth bosses and eyeballs them.
I honestly think the difference in storytelling between 7/9/10 and 6 is bigger than people think. Particularly in 7 the plot is so much more intricate and shocking, and there is an intelligence and depth to the story that simply isn't there in 6. There is nothing in that game in my opinion that matches Cloud's false identity and revelation, Aeris' death or the fact that it is actually a form of Jenova that you are encountering all along and not Sephiroth himself. It's so clever how they hint at the nature of Sephiroth, with it eventually becoming clear that something is amiss altogether. At Whirlwind Maze where you at Earthquake there is that bit where the members of the Reunion are killed by Sephiroth. That was a huge WTF moment for me - it marked the point whereby it became clear that Jenova and Sephiroth were not working co-operatively.
The stuff in general with Jenova is immense and I think I'll only properly understand FF7 the next time I play it. Another quality thing was Shinra's and, in turn, Sephiroth's fatal misunderstand that Jenova was a descendant of the Cetra, when in fact it was Jenova that came to the Earth and basically wiped out that race. The whole destruction of Nibelheim was based on that, with Sephiroth's anger deriving from Shinra's mistaken identification of the creature. All that shit because of one huge misunderstanding.
Urgh...I love that game.
The story is actually incredible.Yup! Every time I play through I tend to notice new stuff too, I find.
I also like the little hinted stuff, that is just glanced on, like with the Turks, Tseng being into Aeris, Elena into Tseng, or Rude and Reno chatting about Tifa. Which is apparently backed up by in game mechanics, if you have Tifa in your party during any Turks fight, Rude won't attack her.
I also like the little hinted stuff, that is just glanced on, like with the Turks, Tseng being into Aeris, Elena into Tseng, or Rude and Reno chatting about Tifa. Which is apparently backed up by in game mechanics, if you have Tifa in your party during any Turks fight, Rude won't attack her.
I honestly think the difference in storytelling between 7/9/10 and 6 is bigger than people think. Particularly in 7 the plot is so much more intricate and shocking, and there is an intelligence and depth to the story that simply isn't there in 6. There is nothing in that game in my opinion that matches Cloud's false identity and revelation, Aeris' death or the fact that it is actually a form of Jenova that you are encountering all along and not Sephiroth himself. It's so clever how they hint at the nature of Sephiroth, with it eventually becoming clear that something is amiss altogether. At Whirlwind Maze where you at Earthquake there is that bit where the members of the Reunion are killed by Sephiroth. That was a huge WTF moment for me - it marked the point whereby it became clear that Jenova and Sephiroth were not working co-operatively.
The stuff in general with Jenova is immense and I think I'll only properly understand FF7 the next time I play it. Another quality thing was Shinra's and, in turn, Sephiroth's fatal misunderstand that Jenova was a descendant of the Cetra, when in fact it was Jenova that came to the Earth and basically wiped out that race. The whole destruction of Nibelheim was based on that, with Sephiroth's anger deriving from Shinra's mistaken identification of the creature. All that shit because of one huge misunderstanding.
Urgh...I love that game.
Sephiroth controled Jenova during the entire game, right?
The game has actually three twists, and both Cloud's past and 'Sephiroth' who in act isn't Sephiroth but it is Jenova on Sephiroth's control are overlooked by Aerith's death twist although they are brilliant plot twists. Anyway, I think that Sephiroth is the best antagonist ever and is a very complex one, at parts you even feel bad for him. He was an experiment going wrong, and he starts by looking vengeance to humans despite the fact that as you said it was Jenova whol destroyed Cetra - the race Sephiroth believed to belong.
Anyway, I liked the story of FF6 almost as much as the story of FF7. Starting from Terra's origin (which I think inspired Square for Aerith's character) to love story of Locke and Celes, to opera scene, to the genocide Kefka made and killed Cyan's family and most members of his kingdom and to the final part of world of balance when you think that Leo is going to defeat Kefka and then you hear that evil voice and everything go bad for the good guys. Shame that the world of ruin didn't had such a great story, it was essentially find the other companions and let's go kill Kefka. Probably the best moment on it was when Celes attempted suicide, which anyway isn't such a memorable scenes to those of the first part of the game.
Anyway, both are terrific games and while I think that Final Fantasy VII is slightly the better game, both of them are on my favorite games ever and easily 10/10 games.
Yup, throughout the game Sephiroth never actually left the North Crater/Northern Cave. IIRC the last time he ever exists outside there is when at the Nibel Reactor and Cloud throws him into the Lifestream.
The only disappointment here is, it wasn't actually Sephiroth that bitchslapped the Midgar Zolom in that incredible scene just before the cave.
If you think about it, everything that happened, preserving Jenova, creating Sephiroth, etc, all Shinra, and specifically, Hojo's fault. Sephiroth could be considered to not be evil at all, just a tragic hero who lost his mind.
Oh, despite my liking of a few FF games above it, and not loving the World of Ruin, I still consider FF6 and absolute knockout. Really, it's just a shame they didn't make the World of Ruin more interesting, IIRC you can skip collecting most of your party too, and just go straight to the endgame.
Yeah, remember something like that now that you mention it. Tseng was some wife beater in the making with Aeris...
That's right, aye. A real mind feck considering Jenova is the one that had an influence on every creature that had her cells! This is what the Reunion was, with another great twist being that Cloud was led towards Sephiroth/Jenova throughout the entire game. That's why Jenova/Sephiroth kept referring to Cloud as a 'puppet' - he thought he was solely chasing after Sephiroth but it was the cells driving him subconsciously. They'd just taken more of a direct hold on other people, where as with him they mixed with his own shame to create the false persona of Cloud/Zack.
That wasn't to criticise FF6 up there just to add. Don't want to be like these said anti-FF7 gimps referred to on the previous page! It's all opinions no matter which way you look at it and both are indeed quality games like you say.
I bought it and i haven't even been able to play it. Everytime i press play i get an Error code 2. Re-installing now and hopefully it works...
EDIT: Turns out if you have Mcafee then you will need to turn it off in order to play this. -.-
Just got Cloud back should be going to Junon, but sub-quest time, I think. Chocobos.......
Does anyone knew if it was only recommended or it was mandatory to make Chocobos champions of A class in order for them to make 100% the new baby chocobo with the needed color?
I *think* it's only needed once you're trying to breed black and gold ones.
Just completed Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix (some internet legend patched it to English)... fantastic game. At least Square Enix have got a few things right, along with Dragon Quest 8 and, er, yeah... They potentially had an FF standard storyline premise here but it was dampened and diluted by the need to Disney it up, inevitably.
There's a few extra fights I need to get out the way before I can play Xenoblade, and in turn become depressed at how these people are no longer working for Square.
There's a few extra fights I need to get out the way before I can play Xenoblade, and in turn become depressed at how these people are no longer working for Square.
This is killing me...has anyone ever played Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix then? I refuse to move on to Xenoblade until this is done but I think I've spent about 5 hours altogether repeatedly getting twatted by an extra boss they've thrown in after you complete it. He's honestly about five times harder than Sephiroth from the first game, and apparently he's someone they threw in (alongside harder rematches against the other Organisation members) as a response to people who said Kingdom Hearts 2 was too easy. I genuinely can't believe how difficult this is whilst clearly being possible. There are 2 second periods whereby you can actually hit him, you can't damage him properly until you land a finisher on him, he can disable all your moves and damage you whilst he does it, take away your magic or attack/items until you hurt him a certain amount (with that finishing move thing still applying), take off all your health in one move and do a whole host of other ridiculous things as well (shoot lasers/big balls of energy/turn into some flying vehicle to feck you up, etc...).
Not complaining too much because more games should need to make you think as much as this fight does, but it's the hardest boss in any game I've come across. Wrote in the video game review thread the other day that KH: COM was the hardest game I've ever played in general but even in that there wasn't anyone as hard as this guy.
Not complaining too much because more games should need to make you think as much as this fight does, but it's the hardest boss in any game I've come across. Wrote in the video game review thread the other day that KH: COM was the hardest game I've ever played in general but even in that there wasn't anyone as hard as this guy.
Never played it, that sounds ridiculous though.
Got my gold chocobo last night, surprised how quick and easy it was, once I had the blue and green ones.
Back to the battle square, sigh, need Omnislash and W-Summon, then off to Rocket for the final Huge Materia.
Finally got to see the extra scene with Zack and his death, Zack reminds me of Zidane. Was pottering about Junon too, collecting extra weapons, a salesguy in a weapon shop was dressed up in a black cloak and mentions that he's ex-SOLDIER, and suddenly got an urge to wear the cloak, despite it not being in fashion.
Got my gold chocobo last night, surprised how quick and easy it was, once I had the blue and green ones.
Back to the battle square, sigh, need Omnislash and W-Summon, then off to Rocket for the final Huge Materia.
Finally got to see the extra scene with Zack and his death, Zack reminds me of Zidane. Was pottering about Junon too, collecting extra weapons, a salesguy in a weapon shop was dressed up in a black cloak and mentions that he's ex-SOLDIER, and suddenly got an urge to wear the cloak, despite it not being in fashion.
Did it...sheeeiiiiit. fecking exhausted. Probably the only time something in a video game has felt like an achievement in its own right and not just in game terms.
I adore that part of the game, by the way (space). ^ Don't remember that guy in Junon... is he just like one of the reunion guys?
I adore that part of the game, by the way (space). ^ Don't remember that guy in Junon... is he just like one of the reunion guys?
I'll tell my grandkids of the time I beat that boss...
Appearance wise yeah, but without any of their odd mannerisms and talks normally.
Appearance wise yeah, but without any of their odd mannerisms and talks normally.
Gold chocobo was a great side quest and as KingEric said it really felt as an achievement. Though it was hard to make it, it took like forever. Catch 2 great and 2 good chocobo of different genres, race them to A class and feed them good greens, then feed another special green (which the senile old man cryptically tell you and then steal them from some dinosaurs) before breeding them to make the green and blue chocobo, and hope that they are of different genres (or reset if they're not). Then go fight enemies, feed chocobos good greens, race them to A level, feed another special breed and then we got the black chocobo. Catch a wonderful chocobo that is of different genre to black chocobo, feed good greens to raise it's stats, race it to A level, go talk with old man, go to goblin island to steal those greens from goblins, make the required battles in order to proceed with the breeding, breed them and get the gold chocobo. A day well spend!
But then Knights of the Round materia kick asses. A hard quest but a great one which gives you the biggest reward in the game.
But then Knights of the Round materia kick asses. A hard quest but a great one which gives you the biggest reward in the game.
I only raised the great and good yellows to B, and gave them each 5 Selkis greens, which I had tonnes of because I sold a mastered ALL materia.
They were the hardest races, though still ok.
Longest time was spent resetting for a female Blue Chocobo, must have taken 30-60 mins.
Races from here on it were a cinch.
Blue and Green each got 10 greens ad raised to A.
Black and Wonderful each got 10 and raised to A.
Thinking of dumping 20 or 30 greens on the Gold and raising it to S to get all the racing prizes.
KOTR is ridiculous, once I have the W-Summon I could master both, and a couple of Mime materia, I should be easily able to tear through the Weapons.
They were the hardest races, though still ok.
Longest time was spent resetting for a female Blue Chocobo, must have taken 30-60 mins.
Races from here on it were a cinch.
Blue and Green each got 10 greens ad raised to A.
Black and Wonderful each got 10 and raised to A.
Thinking of dumping 20 or 30 greens on the Gold and raising it to S to get all the racing prizes.
KOTR is ridiculous, once I have the W-Summon I could master both, and a couple of Mime materia, I should be easily able to tear through the Weapons.
Meant that boss I was yapping on about on KH2FM, but that was great too.
Those were some dark days without the internet trying to work out how to catch a wonderful chocobo, wondering why you'd get constantly crap ones next to Icicle Village!I'll tell my grandkids of the time I beat that boss...
Appearance wise yeah, but without any of their odd mannerisms and talks normally.
Had no idea about that guy, will look out for him next time. It was only last time round I realised there was a Cactuar Island on this game - a real money maker if I remember rightly. Not on the mastered 'All' scale but decent nonetheless.
Yep, ALL materia gives you a lot of money (I even bought the mansion near the beach). Spend a lot of money on the greens.
Thought that you were talking about the GOLDIE. Wonderful chocobo was a pain in the arse I think, I caught a lot of chocobos a time and then went to farm to see that none of them was wonderful.Meant that boss I was yapping on about on KH2FM, but that was great too.
Yeah, the Cactuar island is handy, plus morphing them for Tetra Elementals can be handy, though by then I'm usually using Ribbons. This time I'm messing about with the Championship Belt though, and I have a Touph Ring I've never used before.
I *always* buy the beach house. How can you not?
Just seen that, what is this, how do you achieve it? Winning the races with all chocobos - and especially with gold one - was absolutely easy, though I couldn't make it to run 999m/hours. Saw on youtube that a guy made it, but dunno how that happens.
I *always* buy the beach house. How can you not?
I always* buy it too. Cloud's mansion, yipes.
* By always I meant the one time I have played this game. Usually don't replay games (Kotor games are the exceptions) but FF7 is so good that I think that there will come a day when I replay it.
IIRc you just raise the Chocobo to S, then win 20 races and Ester gives you all the rare prizes that are near impossible to win normally.