Oh, that whole episode with the stolen materia was kind of a system shock too, especially as first time I landed on it by accident, right after Rocket Town and under leveled.
Gaming The Final Fantasy Thread
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OmnislashI don't think that I remember Yuffie's latest limit break.
Re-shufflingand stealing materia made things difficult, but it was part of the story so I liked that. What I hated was her character and when she made the useless ninja karate moves which were as pathetic as they could have been. One of the worst character in any Final Fantasy game I have ever played. Only Relm from FF6 was worse than her.
Agreed, bitch of the highest order. She's another one that makes an appearance in Kingdom Hearts, but she's actually somewhat tolerable in that.
Yuffie was one of those characters who had a shite last limit break, but a great set of level 3 ones. Her best was 'Doom of the Living' and it was amazing. They all pale in comparison to the madness that is Barret's Ungermax/Cid's Highwind, though (not really, but they're worse). If you could be arsed, they were both stronger than every other attack in the game.
Highwind was brutal, IIRC each hit wasn't especially strong, but it hits like seven million times.
I didn't got Cid's highwing though I had Barret's final limit. Was it better than omnislash though? I found omnislash really overpowered, almost as much as Squall's Leonheart limit.
Barret's final limit was worse than Omnislash, but his level 3 one was better if you raised your strength with power sources or hero drinks. Only time I ever used him all the way through was on my last playthrough and was shocked I'd been all those years without seeing it! I'd hazard a guess it hits about the same amount as Highwind. There is a very cheap way to farm power sources with W-Item and morph so it's not that much of an effort.
By default, the best party in the game because of this is probably Cloud, Cid and Barret.
Yeah Angerman (did it called so one of this third level limits) was overpowered too, cause he made like a billion hits but I couldn't made him do 9999 damage. Ominslash on the other side (except against Sephiroth) did always made maximum damage. I essentially defeated Sephiroth using only Knights of The Round and Ominslash, he was gone like that lol.
I still regret for not defeating Ruby and Emerald. Was there a king of strategy or anything, they simply looked unbeatable to me (though I was only about level 60).
Yeah, they just trample all over you without serious preparation. I was so scared of Emerald Weapon when I was 7 that I had to get a family member to come and do the whole submarine part for me.
The most common way is probably to just max out Knights of the Round and W-Summon, and then mime it over and over again if possible until they're dead. It takes ages to get to that point, but the best way is to equip triple growth materia, clone elixirs and feed them to magic pots in the final dungeon. Other methods include casting demi over and over again against Emerald (W-magic/quadra magic/mime), miming limit breaks, etc...Did find a way on this game to make you invincible though, funnily enough. There is something called HP>MP that swaps the two stats, and if you master Final Attack/Phoenix you actually can't die. I think the developers gave the two weapons MP draining attacks to stop this combination working but forgot to cater for that HP>MP one. That is genuinely the only use I ever found for that though so maybe that's why they put it in.
Yeah, they just trample all over you without serious preparation. I was so scared of Emerald Weapon when I was 7 that I had to get a family member to come and do the whole submarine part for me.
Did find a way on this game to make you invincible though, funnily enough. There is something called HP>MP that swaps the two stats, and if you master Final Attack/Phoenix you actually can't die. I think the developers gave the two weapons MP draining attacks to stop this combination working but forgot to cater for that HP>MP one. That is genuinely the only use I ever found for that though so maybe that's why they put it in.
I am not sure if I am entirely understanding. HP<->MP materia looked completely useless to me cause it was impossible fighting with only 999HP against most bosses. Did I missed something? I tried both with KoTR and mimie combination, and gravity-quadra mime but couldn't kill the fecker (gravity only for Emerald). I dunno how, but at times Emerald went crazy and made a lot of attacks that didn't let me react. I couldn't ever stand more than 3-5 minutes alive.
The HP>MP materia gives you 9999 MP, so if you have that much MP and a mastered Final Attack materia combined with Revive or Phoenix, you can die over and over again without the game ending. You will just continually bring yourself back to life and not run the risk of running out of the MP that would be necessary to cast the Final Attack spell. Another thing is that this materia allows you to cast 4 KOTRs at once.
Miming that twice will kill Emerald Weapon.I never actually tried this but I'm sure it must work.
Edit: Oh yeah, Ruby Weapon can be paralysed by the way. That was a huge Achilles heel.
The HP>MP materia gives you 9999 MP, so if you have that much MP and a mastered Final Attack materia combined with Revive or Phoenix, you can die over and over again without the game ending. You will just continually bring yourself back to life and not run the risk of running out of the MP that would be necessary to cast the Final Attack spell. Another thing is that this materia allows you to cast 4 KOTRs at once.
I never actually tried this but I'm sure it must work.
This is insane. Never knew that. I didn't had the final attack materia, but it should have been worthy to get it. 4 KOTRs at once, bloody hell, all except the two optional bosses are dead on the first move. I think that you are right about 4 KOTR, I made a lot of attempts to fight Emerald combining a lot of things, and I swear that there were two times when KOTR made 4 x 7000+ damage per move (didn't made 9999 cause I wasn't fully leveled up). It was purely accidental and I always thought that somehow it was because of the quadra magic materia. Couldn't repeat the move although I tried many times, never actually thought that this was because of HP<->MP materia.
Does a fully leveled up Phoenix revive you every time?
Yeah I think so with fully mastered Final Attack, but I never died enough times at once to test that. It works like that with every other materia so I don't see why not.
I think you'd probably have to do some pretty ridiculous stuff at level 60 to beat Emerald Weapon without Final Attack, to be honest. Like this....
I think you'd probably have to do some pretty ridiculous stuff at level 60 to beat Emerald Weapon without Final Attack, to be honest. Like this....
What the feck was this. An endless string of Ungermax! How he did it?
feck, I think that I haven't exploited most of the best stuff on FF7. It really were infinite combination of materia.
feck, I think that I haven't exploited most of the best stuff on FF7. It really were infinite combination of materia.
Yeah I never knew that could be done either. There is so much stuff on this game you can do with materia combinations that I never thought of throughout my God knows how many playthroughs. The more mimes and counters you have equipped, the more attacks you'll do in return, so if you get hit once with a load of mimes and and counters equpped you'll unleash all sorts of hell back in return. Come to think of it though, it is actually impossible to have that much mastered materia without being at level 99. You can probably reach that stage within about 4 or so hours of fighting down the left path in the Northern Cave.Just look at this insanity (similar to what you said before). Ruby killing himself (it must work for Emerald too).
Though you must spend a lot of hours to master 8 final attacks and 7 KoTR materia. But really it must be the best way to humiliate Ruby/Emerald. You can freely go to drink a tea and when you return they are dead.
Though you must spend a lot of hours to master 8 final attacks and 7 KoTR materia. But really it must be the best way to humiliate Ruby/Emerald. You can freely go to drink a tea and when you return they are dead.
Immense. I have no idea how long it must've taken to master that many Knights of the Rounds. It's almost incalculable.
I have no idea how long it must've taken to master that many Knights of the Rounds. It's almost incalculable.They have released FF7 on Steam for £9.99.
Well, I don't see how I have any other option but to buy it.
Sounds about right.
I know we were rightfully scorning emulation a page back, but in the case of something like FF7 I feel it's only right to point out that it is free on epsxe and uses the original OST. Just in case anyone fancies saving that tenner.
Just in case anyone fancies saving that tenner.Forgot how ridiculously easy it is to level grind in 7. Just after Rocket Town and Wutai, grinding against them wee thunderbirds in the Wutai continent to learn Great Gospel(and pick up a few Materia levels). Red XII has Cosmo Memory, I could have All Creation in a matter of minutes, though Doom Of The Living is better anyway, and Cloud already has Finishing Touch, but anyway, back to the point, Disc 1, Cloud is level 46 already and everyone else is above 40 except one or two that I haven't used at all, who are 38. Will be past 50 before the Temple, easily.
Also, there's an orange bug there that's dropping X-Potions every time, didn't recall these, but I've never had an extended amount of battles here before. Stacked for X-Potions.
I bought the steam version and kept getting Error 2 when I click play. Seems there was a lot having that problem too.
Is there any Steam or Square employee that can be suitably raged at?
The Vita port isn't dandy either, there's a weird graphical glitch that makes the game basically unplayable that pops up randomly every few hours. You have to save and reset(if you can by current situation, or even see through the graphic problems enough to even reach the save menu), or eat a loss in progress. I disabled the graphic smoothing, custom controls I had set and faster loading. Seems to help with frequency at least.
The Vita port isn't dandy either, there's a weird graphical glitch that makes the game basically unplayable that pops up randomly every few hours. You have to save and reset(if you can by current situation, or even see through the graphic problems enough to even reach the save menu), or eat a loss in progress. I disabled the graphic smoothing, custom controls I had set and faster loading. Seems to help with frequency at least.
I bought it on steam too. The soundtrack is hilariously frustrating, but I've perfected the art of humming the real one in my head.
I'm playing it in Spanish this time so that I can pretend I'm not just pissing way 60 hours. To be fair though I could play it in Arabic and know what everyone is saying.
Heading to Junon. I love this game.
I'm playing it in Spanish this time so that I can pretend I'm not just pissing way 60 hours. To be fair though I could play it in Arabic and know what everyone is saying.
Heading to Junon. I love this game.
IIRC, you can replace the PC soundtrack with a proper one.
I'll end up hurting myself if I try to do all that.
Was just in the battle square, still pre Temple of The Ancients. Ran out of GP to battle after 5 battles, after 3 I was 300 BP short of Speed Plus Materia.
Final two battles slots = break Materia, Break Items, Mini and Break Materia, Break Items, Break Weapon.
feck.
Final two battles slots = break Materia, Break Items, Mini and Break Materia, Break Items, Break Weapon.
feck.
The most terrible part of the game. I spend around 2 hours to get the omnislash. A few times I died in the last battle when I could have get around 10k battle points.
On the upside, I did win 8 rounds in one of the battles, so I spoke to the woman at the bottom of the stairs, and she gave me Sprint Shoes, I read you had to win 8 rounds of the special battle for her to give you them. Score.
Aye, I hate it too, necessary evil, I want the Omnislash, Champions Belt, W-Summon later, and of course the Speed Materia.
I got most of the 14k points for one incredibly lucky run.
Should let you store battle points, wouldn't be so harsh then.
I'd never considered Wutai as a grind spot. ^ Was so busy trying to get out that place that I never thought to use it for that! Will try that one next time round.
My favourites were Junon (the alarm in the corridor that summons enemies from disc 2) and the islands around Mideel when you get the Tiny Bronco. I'll never do the Junon one again though, to be honest. Way too early to get that strong.
My favourites were Junon (the alarm in the corridor that summons enemies from disc 2) and the islands around Mideel when you get the Tiny Bronco. I'll never do the Junon one again though, to be honest. Way too early to get that strong.
It's only handy for a place in Disc 1, as you get a fair amount of AP, like 150 per battle, all the X-Potions, and the thunderbirds have a thunder attack that hits everyone for 350 +/- HP, which helps when you're trying to up your limits. Also why I always keep a large stack of Hyper items(had to re-fury after every battle with that dang Limit of Aeris that heals your status...). I had never used it before this run either, I used to use the forest after Mt. Nibel, as if you get the group of 6 of them mushroom things, you get 190+ ap, but you often run into this awful pair of abominations that only give you 40 ap, and usually pincer you.
Junon and the forest around Mideel are the best before the final dungeon, IIRC.
Hours and hours have been spent in that forest.
Wish I'd known about the Magic Pots first time round because I just used to spend hours on end doing Slash-All over and over and over again first time round. Wasn't the pointless yawnfest that Chrono Trigger grinding was but it was fecking boring!Yeah! That forest saw so much action! I never knew about the magic pots, not before this run, I never much bothered grinding with the final dungeon, once step in there, bitches get slapped. This time I should nab the materia and make an exit, might take on the Weapons.
Hit the Battle Square again. I have enough BP to get either the Speed Plus Materia or a Championship Belt.
Having trouble deciding which would be best.
Having trouble deciding which would be best.
Just finished the first disc, after surviving Beatrix battle. That was fast, only around 9 hours. Strange considering that in FF7 and FF8, the first disc had around half of the story. Is something different with this game, or did I go superfast (which I really doubt cause I have played like I usually do, exploring everything). I am with Zidane at level 15.
What's the deal with Kuja anyway? Beatrix looked superpowerful and toyed with my party, but the game seemed to give him more importance in the final scene of first disc. Don't tell me anyway, more as a rhetorical question. Also, he looked a man but was dressed like a girl, dafuq?
Oh, the battle music in the game. By far the best in Final Fantasy games I have played.
What's the deal with Kuja anyway? Beatrix looked superpowerful and toyed with my party, but the game seemed to give him more importance in the final scene of first disc. Don't tell me anyway, more as a rhetorical question. Also, he looked a man but was dressed like a girl, dafuq?
Oh, the battle music in the game. By far the best in Final Fantasy games I have played.
Does seem quick! I think along with Final Fantasy V it has the best normal battle music in the entire series. All opinion of course but those two themes are immense.
There are these mental orb things down the left path as well. Movers, they're called. One fight against them gets you 2400 AP and that's before considering triple growth weapons. Needless to say, that's how the people in the videos up there master so much materia.
There are these mental orb things down the left path as well. Movers, they're called. One fight against them gets you 2400 AP and that's before considering triple growth weapons.
Needless to say, that's how the people in the videos up there master so much materia.IIRC the meat of 9 is in disc 2 and 3.
2400, crazy, anything above 200 is crazy early in the game.
2400, crazy, anything above 200 is crazy early in the game.
And I thought I was doing it fast! Look at this: http://www.ffinsider.eu/final-fantasy-9/ex2-1.php only 2 hours and 25 minutes for the first disc. In-fecking-sane!