You can buy rings or something or other from a shop to get magic and other items which boost your stats I think.
Gaming The Final Fantasy Thread
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Completed all GF (I think). Bahamut and Ultima Weapon fights were awesome, now I am fully stocked with Full Life and Ultima. Yay!
Nice. 
Don't forget the two islands (closest to Heaven/Hell) like I say, they are absolutely immense. Can't quite remember where they are other than the fact that they're near the edges of the map. You'll know when you're on them when you bring up the menu to see your location.
Don't forget the two islands (closest to Heaven/Hell) like I say, they are absolutely immense. Can't quite remember where they are other than the fact that they're near the edges of the map. You'll know when you're on them when you bring up the menu to see your location.
Oh yeah, there's some fun to be had there. A few decent draw points too, IIRC.
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Don't forget the two islands (closest to Heaven/Hell) like I say, they are absolutely immense. Can't quite remember where they are other than the fact that they're near the edges of the map. You'll know when you're on them when you bring up the menu to see your location.
Went there, but I am not liking it that much cause I'll go three level up when I kill a monster. Malboro was a pain in the ass with those terrible statuses but I had to kill a couple of them, although without using degenerator it was a nightmare. I don't think that there is anything good if I'll go there to raise my levels cause then enemies will be more powerful. Don't have an idea how much is the average party level, but with Squall I am at 57. I have almost all of the good magics, 300 of Ultima, Full-Life, Triple, Meteor, Tornado, Aura, Meltdown, Curaga, Regen, Life, Death, Double and some others. Before I continue with the story need to check for other support abilities which will help me from bad statuses like Pain, Confuse and Berserk.
Yeah the magics are all you need. Crazy island. 
If you're up for the challenge, there is an optional boss in the last dungeon that is probably about as tough as Emerald Weapon if you're at level 100.
If you're up for the challenge, there is an optional boss in the last dungeon that is probably about as tough as Emerald Weapon if you're at level 100.Just beat the big ugly sorceress who had junctioned Rinoa (Adel was her name I think) and then those million weak sorceresses who came after her. Things went crazy then and now I am in Ultimecia's castle.
Ultimecia, such an awesome fight.
Gentlemen, I represent you ... three stars. Rest in peace Omega Weapon, and thank you Phoenix for saving my arse one time during this legendary battle.
Are you afraid Ultimecia? I am coming for you.
Are you afraid Ultimecia? I am coming for you.
Well played. One for the Final Fantasy scrapbook, that battle. I think back to my first battle with Omega and am reminded of this guy:
Level 5 death at the start of the battle = WTF
The speed of it as well. It was a mad panic scrolling through the menu.
One for the Final Fantasy scrapbook, that battle. I think back to my first battle with Omega and am reminded of this guy:Level 5 death at the start of the battle = WTF
The speed of it as well. It was a mad panic scrolling through the menu.
How, how, like how the feck did that lad make it all the way to adulthood?
Anyway finished the game.
Great at times, terrible at others, tedious as crap having to spend hours drawing magic from monsters and even worse playing 10-15 hours of a card game. Squall was shit at the beginning, but with hours passing playing I started to understand him better. While the other characters were not great, all of them were pretty good (expect Selphie which I didn't like). The junctioning system while it looks hard, it's actually great and probably best in the FF games I have played. Story was pretty good, and probably the best part of it was the relation between the main party and the 'secondary' party. The romance of Laguna and Julia didn't ever materialize, but their siblings Squall and Riona became lovers in the end. Great part of the story and pretty well hidden.
The main story, good, really good. Like in FF4, for about half of the game you are fighting the 'main villain'. Or not, you undetstand that he/she was just a pawn in the grand scheme. The 'time compression' was a bit retarded but this is Final Fantasy. Didn't like that there weren't many customization. Didn't like that the limits weren't in your hand. In both 2 final fights, I only used Lionheart only 2 times, in around 10 limits I used with squall. Irvine's was the best limit IMO, while not the most powerful, it easily guaranteed you 60k-80k damage every time. Ragnarok was awesome, while the romance between Squall and Rinoa is certainly the best in Final Fantasy games I've played. The two final battles (with Omega Weapon and Ultimecia) were great and some of the best I've played. Omega Weapon very likely is the most powerful enemy I have ever beat in a video game. Ultimecia battle was on pair with Saphiroth and Kefka, a great battle which requires a bit strategy although it isn't that hard. The boss legacy is not in the level of Kefka and certainly not in Saphiroth's level though.
Very good game in the end, but not in the level of FF6, FF7 or Chrono Trigger. Heck, even FF4 was at-least as good as this game, possibly even better. Still there were some good moments in those 70 hours I worthy spend in this game. And I can sleep better knowing that I defeated the optional superboss, unlike in FF7 with Ruby and Emerald which beat my arse everytime I tried. While not one of the best game I have ever played, still a good one and recommended to anyone who hasn't played it yet.
Great at times, terrible at others, tedious as crap having to spend hours drawing magic from monsters and even worse playing 10-15 hours of a card game. Squall was shit at the beginning, but with hours passing playing I started to understand him better. While the other characters were not great, all of them were pretty good (expect Selphie which I didn't like). The junctioning system while it looks hard, it's actually great and probably best in the FF games I have played. Story was pretty good, and probably the best part of it was the relation between the main party and the 'secondary' party. The romance of Laguna and Julia didn't ever materialize, but their siblings Squall and Riona became lovers in the end. Great part of the story and pretty well hidden.
The main story, good, really good. Like in FF4, for about half of the game you are fighting the 'main villain'. Or not, you undetstand that he/she was just a pawn in the grand scheme. The 'time compression' was a bit retarded but this is Final Fantasy. Didn't like that there weren't many customization. Didn't like that the limits weren't in your hand. In both 2 final fights, I only used Lionheart only 2 times, in around 10 limits I used with squall. Irvine's was the best limit IMO, while not the most powerful, it easily guaranteed you 60k-80k damage every time. Ragnarok was awesome, while the romance between Squall and Rinoa is certainly the best in Final Fantasy games I've played. The two final battles (with Omega Weapon and Ultimecia) were great and some of the best I've played. Omega Weapon very likely is the most powerful enemy I have ever beat in a video game. Ultimecia battle was on pair with Saphiroth and Kefka, a great battle which requires a bit strategy although it isn't that hard. The boss legacy is not in the level of Kefka and certainly not in Saphiroth's level though.
Very good game in the end, but not in the level of FF6, FF7 or Chrono Trigger. Heck, even FF4 was at-least as good as this game, possibly even better. Still there were some good moments in those 70 hours I worthy spend in this game. And I can sleep better knowing that I defeated the optional superboss, unlike in FF7 with Ruby and Emerald which beat my arse everytime I tried. While not one of the best game I have ever played, still a good one and recommended to anyone who hasn't played it yet.
I don't know. I remember watching that on repeat whilst high with a mate years ago and just sitting there laughing uncontrollably at the comedy of the anti-climax.Fair enough review, by the way. Must admit that I preferred FF8 to Chrono Trigger and FF4 (soundtrack, story, levelling, optional bosses, fleshed out dialogue, etc), but those two games really must've been crazily good when they were released.
How good is that Ultimecia fight music (The Extreme), by the way?
Goes under the radar a bit in comparison to One Winged Angel but it's a cracker.The one thing about FF4, and most of its ports, was if you paused in battle, the enemy monsters could keep attacking you, fantastic stuff, found that out against a behemoth dragon thing on the moon, while I went for dinner, and came back to a wiped out party.
The Extreme is pretty class, similar to the Jenova music from 7, 8 hand underrated music overall. Maybe I'm a Lion was brilliant too. The Black Mages version as well.
The Extreme is pretty class, similar to the Jenova music from 7, 8 hand underrated music overall. Maybe I'm a Lion was brilliant too. The Black Mages version as well.
Fair enough review, by the way. Must admit that I preferred FF8 to Chrono Trigger and FF4 (soundtrack, story, levelling, optional bosses, fleshed out dialogue, etc), but those two games really must've been crazily good when they were released.
How good is that Ultimecia fight music (The Extreme), by the way?
Dunno, story wise and the junctioning system were great, but at times it was very tedious.
Anyway, how do you interpret the ending. After the fight with Ultimecia everything went crazy, until Riona somehow found Squall. But then, there was the happy ending in the Balamb Garden. Also, the scenes with Squall and the young Matron (and young Squall). Does that mean that the cycle repeats itself everytime?
Read the theory you mentioned before, about Squall being dead. Interesting, but I doubt that there is anything on it.
Great soundtrack but not in the level of best soundtracks from FF7 and FF6. Oe Winged Angel was better IMO, while Julias theme was the best in the game. Anyway was it me, or at times during the game there was Cloud's soundtrack for some seconds? Also, did ultima weapon had Cloud's ultima weapon?
The biggest merit the Squall is Dead theory has is, it so neatly explains why the whole game is so Squall focused. As it's all in his head. I doubt there's any legitimacy in it though.
IIRC, there's a bit where you can sneak back up the mountain in Dollet, and the music that plays is from some sneaking part of Suikoden, or ridiculously close to it.
Oh, and yeah, Ultima Weapon's weapon is Clouds ultimate weapon, the Ultima Weapon he wins from Ultimate Weapon. IIRC it was in 6 first, though. Now they stick it in all the remakes too, apparently.
IIRC, there's a bit where you can sneak back up the mountain in Dollet, and the music that plays is from some sneaking part of Suikoden, or ridiculously close to it.
Oh, and yeah, Ultima Weapon's weapon is Clouds ultimate weapon, the Ultima Weapon he wins from Ultimate Weapon. IIRC it was in 6 first, though. Now they stick it in all the remakes too, apparently.
IIRC, the Lion Heart is a version of it too.
In VI? It had some similarities, but probably cause the graphics were much worse, they don't look exactly the same, unlike in the FF8 when it's practically a giant ultimate weapon sword. Cloud music was many times in ff8, I think. By the way what creativity was in FF7. After Cloud defeated Ultimate Weapon, he got his Ultimate Weapon which was called Ultimate Weapon
I think that all FF (except 6 which doesn't have a traditional main character) games are very focused on the main character too. Was this game more focused on Squall, than VII on Cloud? I don't think so.
Also, a think that I have noticed when I read about Final Fantasy games is how to make 'a perfect game'. What does this exactly mean, and how it is determined if your file is 'perfect'?
In VI? It had some similarities, but probably cause the graphics were much worse, they don't look exactly the same, unlike in the FF8 when it's practically a giant ultimate weapon sword. Cloud music was many times in ff8, I think. By the way what creativity was in FF7. After Cloud defeated Ultimate Weapon, he got his Ultimate Weapon which was called Ultimate Weapon
I think that all FF (except 6 which doesn't have a traditional main character) games are very focused on the main character too. Was this game more focused on Squall, than VII on Cloud? I don't think so.
It's definitely the same weapon in 6, even has the same more hp/more power effect. They certainly did get lazy with the names at points,
Cait Sith's weapon was the HP Shout, which given how it works, is like calling a dagger "Sharp Stabby".As for the main character focus, I think it was stronger in 8, Selphie's entire character is a train fan who can't find proper fitting skirts. Zell likes hotdogs, or something. 7, even the bonus characters were fleshed out some amount(they shouldn't have been optional though(IMO) and Vincent could have done with more work). 9 on the other hand had most everyone with great depth, maybe a little light on Quina and Amarant. Steiner's story would make for a worthy game on it's own.
Pretty much get everything and max everyones stats, I suppose.
I think it too, but only a complete non lifer could potentially do it. Just imagine getting 100 Rosseta Stone and 100 Shaman Stone. And 100 Ribbons from Chocobo World (I didn't even opened that game). Thousands of hours well spend.
Yeah, it's beyond senseless.
That's how I took it at the time but I would need to play this again to be confident I think. My memory tells me that Squall and Ultimecia were thrown back to that timeline, at which point Edea then received Ultimecia's powers as a dying wish. Squall then warn Edea that she must create SeeD to deal with the threat of Ultimecia in that timeline, and this will then presumably happen over and over again like you say. I can only assume that Rinoa finding Squall was meant to be taken literally and that their wanting for each other in amongst all the time compression was what did it. I dunno, that was vague to be honest! It's driving me mad trying to think of the game I've played (or film I've watched) in which something like this happens. The party get separated in time/space and they have to think their way back together.
Anyway, this really was a real mind-bend of a story to play at 8/9 years of age.
Ultimecia's motives went way over my head first time round, and it was onlu after playing again that I understood that she needed Ellone because of the limits of the junction machine thingy. It's a good job it didn't make the Chrono Cross mistake of giving you about a page of dialogue in total to explain it all.Which would you say is Cloud's theme, by the way? Ultima Weapon did have Cloud's ultimate weapon, yeah.
That's exactly my interpretation too. Edea said even before (in disc 3) that all people thought that she got the powers from Adel, but in fact she go them from an another unnamed sorceress (Ultimecia).
Anyway, this really was a real mind-bend of a story to play at 8/9 years of age.
Yeah, the sadist thing is a bit boring. Kefka was awesome though, but pretty much Ultimecia was very similar to him in her motives (or am I wrong). While Saphiroth has some similarities too, he was more awesome than them
Which would you say is Cloud's theme, by the way? Ultima Weapon did have Cloud's ultimate weapon, yeah.
The main theme. An awesome theme.
Yeah pretty much. Kefka and Ultimecia's end goal was exactly the same (become God...!). The only difference really is that Ultimecia's plan was more elaborate by nature of her situation; with her, she had to meld all timelines into one herself in order to be the ruler of all existence (using the machine, the sorceresses and Ellone), where as Kefka simply drained the power of the Triad.
Agreed on Sephiroth, he beats them all. The motives and triggers are much clearer with him as opposed to the mindless psychopathy of everyone else.
I've not noticed that theme in FF8 actually but a lot of Uematsu's melodies do take inspiration from each other. I listen to these soundtracks a lot so I'll look out for it.
I only noticed the other day that there's a melody in this game (in the world map theme) that is very similar to one that continuously main melodies runs through FF9 right from the title theme. Took me about 12 years to notice that so I wouldn't rule out that FF7 theme being in FF8. Yeah pretty much. Kefka and Ultimecia's end goal was exactly the same (become God...!). The only difference really is that Ultimecia's plan was more elaborate by nature of her situation; with her, she had to meld all timelines into one herself in order to be the ruler of all existence (using the machine, the sorceresses and Ellone), where as Kefka simply drained the power of the Triad.
Agreed on Sephiroth, he beats them all. The motives and triggers are much clearer with him as opposed to the mindless psychopathy of everyone else.
I've not noticed that theme in FF8 actually but a lot of Uematsu's melodies do take inspiration from each other. I listen to these soundtracks a lot so I'll look out for it.
I think that it was only for a few seconds several times, not an actual theme, but only for about 5-10 seconds. I am not sure though.
Kefka was much better than Ultimecia IMO, and we also have seen his development from a not much important commander of that kingdom, to an omnipotent sadist evil person. He was funny too, and had that horrible laugh.
It really is a great soundtrack. I could be wrong but it strikes me as being one of the most diverse in that it doesn't rehash main themes as heavily as other FFs do (9 for example is very heavy with the use of Melodies of Life and the title theme). It uses the opening theme in a couple of others tracks but I think that's it, isn't it?
If it is underrated I wonder whether it's because the story itself is less memorable? I think of 7, 9 and 10 and the areas/plot events stick in the mind more firmly than that of 8's, so maybe that's it?
Yeah, there is a lot more on show with him and his story, and also his back story in that it his insanity is explained (magitek solider gone wrong). Ultimecia does sort of spring out of nowhere half way through the game and doesn't really have much of a role even when you find out about her. She's more of a force than a character a lot of the time.
Anyone else think that Joker from The Dark Knight was heavily influenced from Kefka?
Yeah, the only thing that gets used a lot is Eyes On Me/Julias Theme, but those pieces were part of the story really.
It's pretty much that. The game isn't one of the more rated FF's, so each part is underrated to an extent. Except Triple Triad, bitches be crazy for Triple Triad.
I'd imagine he came more from the 90's Batman cartoon and graphic novels. They both played up that sinister aspect that came through in The Dark Knight.
Could you get Edea's card and those cards from Piet and Ellone. Especially in that space station it was crazy, there were all rules on function. Plus and Random were the worst
Oh yeah shit. I was talking about the 'Vemos, Lusec' themes from the opening CGI. Maybe I'm chatting shite there then.
There's a way to get rid of all the rules in the space station before you go up there, there's a person that plays by the space rules you can work over, can't remember where though.
Nah, Eyes On Me was practically a plot point, I don't think it counts in the way you mean.Oh yeah shit. I was talking about the 'Vemos, Lusec' themes from the opening CGI. Maybe I'm chatting shite there then.
I could really relate to Selphie, for I too love trains.
Trains are indeed awesome.
How good is Final Fantasy IX? Hints and tips (no spoilers please)?
One of the best Final Fantasies, tbh, probably one of the best games ever regardless.
Hints and tips? Your main character is a Thief, so steal, constantly, there's always good stuff to be stolen. Keep Mythril gear even when you outgrow it, and always keep your weakest weapons.
Hints and tips? Your main character is a Thief, so steal, constantly, there's always good stuff to be stolen. Keep Mythril gear even when you outgrow it, and always keep your weakest weapons.
Why?