Wow I'm the only one who voted for 9.
Gaming The Final Fantasy Thread
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Not really, it came off the back of 6 and 7 and was underwhelming.
It's a good game of course, but the two (maybe even 4) before it were better, hence the slightly bad rep.
Yes!Tough choice between 12 and 7 for top spot. I loved the gambit system in 12, I don't think people gave it much of a chance because of the change from the usual turn based system. One of my favourite musical scores in a game too. The esper battle theme is. Loved everything about 7 too so not much between them.
XII is so good. I think my original play-through was 130+ hours to kill all the ultimate bosses.
I really liked VIII, it's just that Squall was a bit of a shit main character, and once you figured out how the junction system worked it got pretty easy. And I liked the story up until
oh we're all from the same orphanage
Also the bad guy who basically comes out of nowhere at the end.
I stumbled upon these a long time ago, some guy has a good/funny write-up of each Final Fantasy game
http://socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=patff
Fun reads.
http://socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=patff
Fun reads.
Anyone without 6 & 9 as the top 2 really shouldn't be taken serious.
Not anymore.
Would definitely get my vote if it wasn't for 6.
Yeah I think FF8 goes a bit too batshit crazy later on, the first disc was so good too.
Out of nowhere?
Surely that's a joke. That or you didn't bother to read the dialogues through the story.
I see you're as nice and pleasant as ever.
No reason to bother with pleasantries when someone who is as experienced as you with the FF-series are so majorly in the wrong.
You tell him!
Ultimacia technically doesn't come out of nowhere but she sort of does to be honest. There are hints and bits of dialogue obviously but it's not sufficient, she doesn't feel like the real antagonist by the time you fight here. Final boss should have been Seifer or Adel. Her castle is one of the best final dungeons though, and IX and III are worse for final boss out of nowhere.
You literally do not see her in the game before her castle. Doesn't matter if she's referenced or controls another character.
IX isn't ...
I'd understand if Garland was the final boss but he wasn't.
I found the combat in VIII a bit of a chore. That'd be my main criticism of it.
And the last boss completely and utterly pissed me off with the dozen fecking stages and stealing your spells.
Ultimacia definitely doesn't come from nowhere. You hear about her quite early in the game, don't you? She controls that other wizard etc etc.
The final boss in FF9 (Necron) on the other hand...It came out of nowhere. And it was completely pointless. Remove that boss fight entirely and you lose nothing in that game.
The final boss in FF9 (Necron) on the other hand...It came out of nowhere. And it was completely pointless. Remove that boss fight entirely and you lose nothing in that game.
I dont remember Necron at all : /
Necron is the boss of IX and he literally does just appear out of nowhere. Challenging fight though.
Only people I've seen who rate VIII above the others are those who's first experience with the franchise was VIII.
VI & VII taking the top spots so far is about as surprising as people ranking The Empire Strikes Back above the prequels.
you're wrong..
FFVIII is in the top 2.. Only 7 can rival it and that's personal preference.. XII onwards should be in a different vote, they are quite different.
I started with VI, played through to 9, then X and X-2 briefly.. I have XII but have never really got into it...
Apparently, he represented death itself. Not sure that I got that impression when I played the game though.
Necron is the boss of IX and he literally does just appear out of nowhere. Challenging fight though.
It kind of makes sense in the context of the game considering that the concept of 'death' was central in the game (Vivi
), but it really had no buildup at all. Both Zemus (FF4) and Ultimacia (FF8) had some buildup, despite that you see them for the first time in the last battle. Technically speaking, the same can be said for Sephiroth (bar in the last battle, it is Jenova looking like him).Doesn't matter if she's referenced? Or controlling another character? That's just bull.
If she possesses someone and it comes out, you know, like it does since everything post ending of disc 2 is about the sorceress from the future that controlled Matron/Edea (and later Rinoa) and made them commit heinous acts.
Also, a lot of people claim she has no motivation for her actions, here is a bit of good analyzing from her speech back in Deling City (when in control of Edea).
She's far from my favorite final fantasy villain, but she's not nearly as bad as people make her out to be, just as the game itself is extremely underrated.
exactly! maybe 'out of nowhere' was the wrong wording, but only seeing the antagonist at the very end was a bit shitApparently, he represented death itself. Not sure that I got that impression when I played the game though.
It kind of makes sense in the context of the game considering that the concept of 'death' was central in the game (Vivi
I know her story, I know the references, but any antagonist you don't see until the very end is a bit shit. Each to their own opinion, though.
Final Fantasy VIII was my introduction to the series, so for me it's up there, but for many the junction system was tedious, they didn't get the story, the more futuristic world (even from ffvii) wasn't well received by many and the enemies scaling with your level meant people had to use their brain (or a guide) to up their stats to be "op", instead of just grinding the shit out of levels. A lot of people seemed to have issues with the guardian force abilities as well (edit: and that your seed level and therefor money income goes down with using guardian forces).
Note, I had no issue with any of these and really enjoyed all aspects of the game (exception being how tedious it is to abolish card rules you really don't want around). Putting it on top when it was my first game is also hard as I know I'm in some way nostalgically biased towards it.
There is also Yu Yevon in X as another boss you don't see till the moment you fight. He isn't that bad though as it's a token battle and he is mentioned in the story through-out.
Kind of the opposite though, as you think you're seeing him, and clearly know all about him, unlike Ultemicia where you don't know about her.Apparently, he represented death itself. Not sure that I got that impression when I played the game though.
It kind of makes sense in the context of the game considering that the concept of 'death' was central in the game (Vivi
... Most disappointing FF games of all time list? I agree
Sarcasm? What would your top two be?
Mental, I loved the junction system .. The Seed level I believe related directly to the tests you could take, never had an issue with money as I found the girl next door mags quite easily which sold for ridiculous sums.. I'm not usually someone who identifies with future set stories but every character was really different, I remember shouting at Irvine for being too scared to take the shot at Edea initially
The only thing I didn't like was catching Chobocos and the whistle etc.. Never really got that... But that's a fair review yoiu have given it.. What did you think of XII?
Seeing it earlier would have ruined whatever your mind conjured, several references to Ultimecia built it up well I thought..and Rinoa was mentioned early on about knowing Squall before hand, she hinted at it when he was in the infirmary..
Reminds me a few other things I didn't like such as the garden party where you had to make characters play instruments... That was wierd, but the card system is probably the best FF mini game there was
I hated XII personally.
I ended up playing it with my foot while reading a book.
The really, really long dungeons to get 2/3 lines of dialogue pissed me off too.
Everyone kept going on about it having a great story so i stuck with it until i reached bahamut (which is more or less the end of the game afaik?)
and thought 'is that it?'
Threw it in a corner and never went back to it.
Just felt like they cut out massive chunks of the story
I ended up playing it with my foot while reading a book.
The really, really long dungeons to get 2/3 lines of dialogue pissed me off too.
Everyone kept going on about it having a great story so i stuck with it until i reached bahamut (which is more or less the end of the game afaik?)
and thought 'is that it?'
Threw it in a corner and never went back to it.
Just felt like they cut out massive chunks of the story
And when Cloud hands over the black materia
There are multiple last bosses you don't see until the final fight.
Suspense in knowing what they have done or are trying to do until you are there at their doorstep to stop them.
Each to their own as you said. But I rightfully had issues with your initial statement.
The junction system was great, if a bit broken/abusable.
Though it can be fun to be OP as feck when you've barely left Garden for the first time.
I'd have liked the rest of the characters in 8 to be fleshed out a bit more, but perhaps it's a way of showing Squall's aloof attitude.
Though it can be fun to be OP as feck when you've barely left Garden for the first time.
I'd have liked the rest of the characters in 8 to be fleshed out a bit more, but perhaps it's a way of showing Squall's aloof attitude.
And in the flashback mission
Never sell the girl next door, give it to Zone, and gain shiva card man. <.<Sarcasm? What would your top two be?
Mental, I loved the junction system .. The Seed level I believe related directly to the tests you could take, never had an issue with money as I found the girl next door mags quite easily which sold for ridiculous sums.. I'm not usually someone who identifies with future set stories but every character was really different, I remember shouting at Irvine for being too scared to take the shot at Edea initially
The only thing I didn't like was catching Chobocos and the whistle etc.. Never really got that... But that's a fair review yoiu have given it.. What did you think of XII?
Use alexander + KT gf combo for unlimited money.
Edit for XII:
I only played through it once or twice, and it was around the release.
Very enjoyable villain in Vayne Solidor, story overall was good. But if you think sidequests to do sidequests to do sidequests to maybe have a chance of getting something you need to complete a sidequest so you can do another sidequest to gain something good, then it's not for you (in other words, for a completionist, this game is hell).
Also, the main protagonists are ok, but as even watch mojo recognized, it's Balthier and Fran who are the best in the game as characters.
Again, It's been a damn long time since I played it, so I can't really give you any good review. I'm sure there are others here who play it as much as I do 5-9 though.
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VI & IX.
I hate the characters in VIII. I can deal with the sluggish GF animations, junction system, forgettable world & plinky plonky world map theme... Hell, I can even give a pass to most of the story. But those characters, that love story, and the whole setting of the game? Bleh. After VII, this was just too much of a disappointment to me.
The school setting in JRPGs does my head in, and no game moreso than Persona 4 & Final Fantasy VIII. The only franchise that gets a pass for that from me is the Legend of Heroes franchise.
Isn't Jenova doing a Sephiroth personification back then, too? I am pretty sure that his body is all the time in that crater in the north. All the other times it is Jenova controlled from him, while also taking his form.
In flashback yes, but it is just a flashback.
In flashback yes, but it is just a flashback.
It depends. I thought that it had a good buildup, and didn't mind it.
There are many games when you see the final boss only in the end of the game.