The F1 Thread 2010 Season

Leg-End said:
That picture really pisses me off.
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how about this one?

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Leg-End said:
Did you not get the memo muller? Your not allowed to be a Hamilton fan.
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Don't be soft! I just don't get the 'brilliant drive' stuff. Jake said it on BBC too, I said earlier that yes he made a few very nice passes but most of his gains were from being in a much faster car.

I thought Petrov did a brilliant job, and Alguesari or however his name is spelled, for my money Hamilton did was I would have expected from him. I'm not criticising him, I guess it just depends on what you define as 'brilloant' - for me that wasn't it.
 
Surely thats what racing is, being in a faster car and passing the slower ones? :lol:

I would'nt say anyone was brilliant today, Petrov wasn't brilliant when you think Kubica was in 4th easy all race long, Alguersuari was decent but nothing to warrant brilliant. Hamilton started 20th and finished 6th, Massa 21st to 7th they just went different ways about it, the only thing that makes Hamilton standout is the way in which he did it and thats the story of this season. You can pass cars all day long but its mostly about track position and clear air.
 
I guess for me it's about how someone drove compared to expectations of the driver/car package. Hamilton, Massa, Alonso and Button drove solid decent races but when most of the passes are in a straight line it doesn't jump out as a particularly great performance any more than Vettel's out in front.

I mentioned Petrov because he did very well in coming back at Hamilton and keeping him behind for as long as he did. Alguersuari did well to finish in the points but to be fair I guess that was largely down to retirements.

Maybe I'm being too harsh but people just seem far to quick to blow smoke up certain drivers arses.
 
Leg-End said:
I think blacking yourself up crosses the threshold of teasing. :rolleyes:
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My ex wife is part Spanish (& German) -- she used to shocked at the level of ignorance and stereotypes they had of races outside Iberia.

I am Chinese... imagine the whispers they had amongst themselves of one of theirs marrying outside the race. (Was difficult to swallow when one of theirs married a German initially!)
 
So what are you saying exactly, because they are Spanish its alright?
 
R_Nick said:
Don't be soft! I just don't get the 'brilliant drive' stuff. Jake said it on BBC too, I said earlier that yes he made a few very nice passes but most of his gains were from being in a much faster car.
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To be fair Nick you said it your self many times you just don't like Hamilton so your always gonna say that. It was a very good drive.
 
I don't have to like someone to ackowledge a good/great drive mate, I've given Hamilton plenty of credit over the years and he's a fantastic driver. I'll have no issue with recognising his performances but I just don't think today was so great.
 
Leg-End said:
So what are you saying exactly, because they are Spanish its alright?
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Its a parochial society. They have a serious superiority complex over most cultures for whatever reasons.

Ultimately, its up to their political leaders or sports role models to set the example.
 
Decent race that, mostly due to Hamilton's storming drive - think he'll be a little disappointing with 6th considering

Let's hope China is exciting, because if not it's the annual precession of Catalunya afterwards, and we'll all be thoroughly sick of the sight of F1 cars by then

Oh, and Webber in bottling it from the start shock horror :rolleyes:
 
R_Nick said:
Hamilton 'warned' about his driving but not penalised, decidedly dodgy.
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Yeh, I think he was a bit lucky there as well. But then the stewards set the bar very high with letting Webber off last week when he smashed into Hamilton
 
With the Hamilton weaving, it's asking for trouble, but I don't think he's doing anything to warrent an automatic punishment there. It'd be different if the Renault pulled out to make an overtaking move, and Hamilton goes one way to defend and weave back... but that wasn't the case. There's a noticable different between what Hamilton did today, and what Schumacher used to do off the start of races back in the days he used to lead off grand prix
 
Is the Braun team now the Mercedies GP team?
 
Instant Karma said:
I am not a big fan of Hamilton but he drove brilliantly yesterday. It's just retarded to deny that.
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Is it? Shit well in that case I change my mind, if you say it's retarded then I must be wrong. No room for opinions in this game. :rolleyes:
 
Why don't you think it was a great drive from Hamilton Nick? He made up 14 positions from the start, in a season where overtaking seems to be as difficult as ever

I mean I'm not saying it's up there to be remembered with some of Schumachers great drives from the back of the grid (Spa 95 and his last race for Ferrari in Brazil 06, both times he had the clearly dominant car on the grid which wasn't the case for Hamilton yesterday), but I agree with Karma that it's a bit crass to downplay the achievement in it. Perhaps it's a shame he didn't make up a couple more places, perhaps then there would be no doubt whatsoever

He was virtually the only reason the race was interesting for a start!
 
I really don't know why I went for the £40m option, it's clear the £45m option is better, especially as I have since seen that if say one of your drivers is injured (or some other reasons) you can replace him, sort of defeats the point of giving the benefit of being able to switch drivers to the £40m guys


I know we can switch if our drivers cars don't develop quickly enough, but meh
 
B Cantona said:
Fantasy update. I still lead, but it's been slashed by team Larsson. I plummeted about 200 spots down the overall standings too :(
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My four drivers all finishing in the top 5 won't happen too often. If McLaren didn't feck up qualifying you would still be way out in front
 
B Cantona said:
Why don't you think it was a great drive from Hamilton Nick? He made up 14 positions from the start, in a season where overtaking seems to be as difficult as ever

I mean I'm not saying it's up there to be remembered with some of Schumachers great drives from the back of the grid (Spa 95 and his last race for Ferrari in Brazil 06, both times he had the clearly dominant car on the grid which wasn't the case for Hamilton yesterday), but I agree with Karma that it's a bit crass to downplay the achievement in it. Perhaps it's a shame he didn't make up a couple more places, perhaps then there would be no doubt whatsoever

He was virtually the only reason the race was interesting for a start!
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Probably best explained by my earlier posts mate, but for me Sunday's wasn't what I'd call a brilliant drive. He did a good job and I'm not criticising him, but when 8 of the positions gained are on the opening lap and the majority of those before turn 1 you have to ackowledge that vastly superior car speed played a hell of a part in the 14 places. He made a couple of nice overtaking moves, most notably the one on the outside of (iirc) turn 5, but the straight line speed of that McLaren is not to be downplayed.

If it seems like I'm just 'bashing' Hamilton then I'm sorry because that isn't my intention; like I said earlier perhaps I'm being too harsh, but when I think of brilliant drives I think of ones like you mentioned, the likes of Brazil 06, Suzuka 05, Monza 08, Hungry 06 etc.

Hamilton did well on Sunday; but not memorably so imo.
 
Fair enough Nick. The only thing I'd say there is that I don't think anyone is calling it an all time great drive or anything; simply that he had a great drive. It seems a little crass to me going down the negative route for a drive like that. Some of the other top drivers in more dominant cars (Button and Massa, I'll spare Alonso because he didn't have a fully functioning car beneath him) had to rely on gaining places during the tyre stop to move further up the grid, Hamilton did it all on the track, with one of two real quality manoeuvres. Given the lack of overtaking from anywhere else, and the difficulty of doing so at the moment; performance advantage or not, I can only see a positive reaction from his weekends work, I don't understand the more negative slant you're taking
 
Yea I suppose that's true, maybe I'm off with my semantics and I'm talking more about 'great' drives, it's like the 'world class' tag in the footy forum!

I can accept that, you're probably right :)
 
Jesus, anyone seen Buemi's front wheels both flying off in practice?!

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I'll be interested to see how Red Bull do this weekend, and if there is any fallout from the ride-height adjusting ruling the FIA gave

I don't know if they are actually doing it, but wiser F1 folk than me seem to think they are, but I am fairly certain that McLaren were nowhere near their own system and wanted clarification to stop Red Bull's


I think the McLaren will go really well this weekend, that F-duct will really help on that long straight, and they could get some overtakes at the end of it in the heavy breaking zone
 
I've not read anything since the last race but last I saw the FIA had inspected the Red Bull and given it the all clear?
 
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