er....you do realise Ralfie is on the list don't you?
The F1 2004 Season thread.
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Keane16 said:
well i neededd to name every other driver other than those three
MelvinYeo said:
... and boring!
Melvyn loves boring.
it's fun to watch monty pinball himself again and again 
now he's blaming panis for that incident!
monty =
(football we have , F1 we have monty)
wonder next race in canada who he hit this time?
now he's blaming panis for that incident!
monty =
(football we have , F1 we have monty)wonder next race in canada who he hit this time?
one question, imagine pinball is a straight fight with Banzaiiii sato, who will knock each other out?
my bet is pinball.
my bet is pinball.
Who is your favourite driver pjaya?
Keane16 said:
I never have any particular favourite driver now except for A Senna(RIP)
but really, monty blaming panis for that incident really put me off!
why can't he accept his mistake...
“When I made it to the first corner Rubens Barrichello, who was in front of me, braked quite early and both Ralf and I locked the tyres. Then Ralf went for the outside and I stayed behind Rubens but when I was going around the corner Panis dived up the inside hitting my front tyre which threw me straight into Ralf.”
at least ralfyboy did some good PR
"It was a very unfortunate accident with Juan who just braked a bit too late since he was trying to gain some places at the end of the straight. I am 100% sure Juan didn’t do it on purpose therefore I am not going to blame him for this. It was a very normal start accident. Shame I hit Cristiano Da Matta too, but I was just a passenger on my car at that time, since Juan had hit me in the back and then in the front and I had no longer control on the car. I am sorry for Cristiano but there was nothing I could do to avoid taking him out."
why can't he accept his mistake...
“When I made it to the first corner Rubens Barrichello, who was in front of me, braked quite early and both Ralf and I locked the tyres. Then Ralf went for the outside and I stayed behind Rubens but when I was going around the corner Panis dived up the inside hitting my front tyre which threw me straight into Ralf.”
at least ralfyboy did some good PR
"It was a very unfortunate accident with Juan who just braked a bit too late since he was trying to gain some places at the end of the straight. I am 100% sure Juan didn’t do it on purpose therefore I am not going to blame him for this. It was a very normal start accident. Shame I hit Cristiano Da Matta too, but I was just a passenger on my car at that time, since Juan had hit me in the back and then in the front and I had no longer control on the car. I am sorry for Cristiano but there was nothing I could do to avoid taking him out."
Senna seems to be everyone's favourite these days, personally, since Irvine retired I haven't had a real favourite, but Montoya is the only one who gets the blood up during a race, and that I like. Mick is obviously the best though.
Keane16 said:
pity mick retire early. Or we could see some good fight between him and shummi.
ahh... the old days. Irvine and JV (they do make a good couple eh!
)pjaya said:pity mick retire early. Or we could see some good fight between him and shummi.
ahh... the old days. Irvine and JV (they do make a good couple eh!
I don't think JV is exactely the kind of blonde bimbo that Eddie normally goes for.
Keane16 said:
No I don't
Give me the Nelson Piquet manouveres the Nigel Mansell manouveres any day any time rather than Juankers reckless driving
MelvinYeo said:
wouldya go on - those two were as reckless as anyone on the grid. Plus the increased safety and reduced sportsmanship of todays racing means those two would be banned every five minutes nowadays. Piquet was even a cnut off track too.
Keane16 said:
And with the increased safety Juanker still manages to smash into somebody every 5 minutes!
Oh and I also admired Gilles Villeneuve
MelvinYeo said:
er...its because of the increased safety that he is able to have such a direct robust style of driving. Mansell and co. would have been a lot worse IMO, but there was a greater fear for ones safety back in the 70's and 80's.
Keane16 said:
Juanker doesn't overtake with thegusto of Piquet Mansell, he is lucky of the safety because 90% of the time when he overtakes he takes out another driver
MelvinYeo said:
1. Define 'gusto'
2.
1. Class, exciting. Neither which Juanker hasKeane16 said:1. Define 'gusto'
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2.
Yep, he is one boring driver.
Unlike Fireball.
Unlike Fireball.
Keane16 said:
Well if you define exciting by accidents and taking someone with ya, yeh Juankers sure exciting
MelvinYeo said:
Its certainly part of exciting. Just point out to me, if you can, the 90% of times you claim that Montoya has taken out another driver while overtaking. Oh, wait, you won't be able to.
He puts himself in positions where it is possible to overtake, sometimes not in accepted positions. The reality is that for everytime Montoya has made a mistake (running wide even, not taking out another car), he has also made stunning moves that no one else makes or is even able to make. Thats what I call exciting.
Keane16 said:
You give me a list of Juanker's decent 'overtaking' moves and I'd list the times where'd he took out another guy.
If he puts another driver's safety under threat like so often he does, that's not exciting, if I was 30 yards back from the car in front and approcaching a car in front and a tight corner coming up, I would not go for the gap and lunge down the inside. Juanker would and probably put himself and the other driver out of the race.
MelvinYeo said:
You do realise that for every time a give you a Montoya overtake, you have to give me 9 instances of where he took another car off. Are you sure you want to proceed?
MelvinYeo said:
Your 'probably' is actually a 'maybe', which applies to all things.
Keane16 said:
Alrigth then.
Go on, name your first Juanker overtaking manouvere that does not involve touching, smashing, or taking out the other car.
MelvinYeo said:
Nothing wrong with touching.
The big one, v. Mick at Interlagos.
I await your 9.
Keane16 said:
There is wrong with touching, it's indecent then.
OK
1. Nurburgring takes out Ralf and Da Matta(da Matta indirectly)
2. Indy 02 Takes out Ralf at start
3. Nurburgring 03 he spins out M$
4. Malaysia 02 he goes round the outside of M$ and clips M+$ front wing
OK maybe 9 is too much I only can remember 4 off the top of my head
MelvinYeo said:
Seems like even 4 is too much.
Your point 2 is rubbish, Ralf made a balls of that all by himself, he was intimidated by Montoya, but that just shows how crappy Ralf is on occasion.
Your point 3 is rubblish too. He went around the outside of Mick, catching him by surprise, there was contact, but nothing untoward. Mick was surprised and got a fright basically. The stewards didn't have a problem, and tellingly, neither did Mick.
Can't argue with the Nurburgring last Sunday and I cant remember Malaysia 2002.
Keane16 said:
Both were at fault for point 2, for not allowing enough room so......
Ross Brawn had someting to say about point 3. Called Juanker unprofessional.
Malaysia 02 was where he AGAIN tried to overtake round the outside and clipped off M$ wings. Stewaards judged him at fault so yeah, he was at fault.
And another one, Indy last year, stewards judged him at fault with Barrichello.
MelvinYeo said:
So you agree with me basically. I don't care about Ross Brawn's opinion on the incident at the Nurburgring, he was universally slatted for getting the wrong end of the stick and I reckon even Mick was a bit embarassed by that little outburst.
As for them both being at fault and not enough room, thats different from your original take on it.
Keane16 said:
So now the Juanker ratio is now 2.5 : 1 if we count Indy as each at fault
just a question, does anyone think F1's boring because of shummi/ferrari dominance? if boring then what will you think if United kept on winning PL/CL every year starting from 2005 to 2011? will you think it's boring?
anyway I always reckon JPM behaviour similar the arse wanker! do you think so?
anyway I always reckon JPM behaviour similar the arse wanker! do you think so?
pjaya said:just a question, does anyone think F1's boring because of shummi/ferrari dominance? if boring then what will you think if United kept on winning PL/CL every year starting from 2005 to 2011? will you think it's boring?
anyway I always reckon JPM behaviour similar the arse wanker! do you think so?
totally different prospect imo.
I do not support M$, I support United, so I would not like the former but would like the latter.
Juanker is a wanker.
End of.
MelvinYeo said:
off topic
hey, heard that Starhub finally launch the digital tv thing after got postponed for almost a year? have you subscribe.?
pjaya said:
Must have not kept up then?
So what is this about then?
MelvinYeo said:
Must have not kept up then?
So what is this about then?
hear there will have interactive menu and such.
pjaya said:
I'd give it a cehck tomorrow on how expensive it is
$$$ counts
MelvinYeo said:I'd give it a cehck tomorrow on how expensive it is
$$$ counts
$$ no problem i suppose for singaporeans.
It is.pjaya said:$$ no problem i suppose for singaporeans.
We're so kiasu for money it's impossible