MelvinYeo said:feck ME
m$ JAMMING BRAKES IN THE TUNNEL AND JUANKER SMACKED HIM INTO THE BARRIERS AND OUT OF THE RACE
The F1 2004 Season thread.
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IMO, Bar should be punished first for the incident involving DC and Fisi. They have the telementry to check on sato's car and visibly sato car could go off at any moment when the there are a few puff of white smoke. but they let him cntinued on.
and as for second incident, Alonso did make a stupid move across the dirty side of the track and actually ralfy boy should move over the left side and let alonso overtake him since ralfy boy car developed problem on the gearbox. but methink alonso should at least be more careful.
and lastly, the incident involving shummy and mon-pinball-toya. since the cars is behind the SC, there should not be any overtaking involved and every car behind should take precaution on action of the front car. can't think why monty did not brake. probably monty have fallen asleep.
and I could not understand that why the SC suddenlly lifted.
and as for second incident, Alonso did make a stupid move across the dirty side of the track and actually ralfy boy should move over the left side and let alonso overtake him since ralfy boy car developed problem on the gearbox. but methink alonso should at least be more careful.
and lastly, the incident involving shummy and mon-pinball-toya. since the cars is behind the SC, there should not be any overtaking involved and every car behind should take precaution on action of the front car. can't think why monty did not brake. probably monty have fallen asleep.
and I could not understand that why the SC suddenlly lifted.
I quite agree, Sato should've pulled off when his car started to ahve the tell tale signs of a blowout and it is totally disgraceful that they keep a bunch of cars behind just to give Button a lead over Kimi M$ and the rest.
And if the accident had an injury or someinthg, BAR should be banned and fined.
Ralfie was stupid there, lifting in the tunnel and forcing the other car to go through, tho Alonso shouldn't have took a chance. Putting up a finger when your car is still spinning dangerously won't win you any friends.
And any fecking one laughed when M$ emerged from the tunnel with suspension and all smashed?
I did.
Looking at the incident again tho, Juanker was actually a lap down and had no business being so close to M$.
Still feckiing funny brain fade tho.
I reckon what made him to brake was there was some kind of debris on the track, you could see him locking up left wheel, and I don't see the reasonfor doing so unless something was wrong.
Shame we didn't have the engine cover view of the car to see exactly what had happened
And if the accident had an injury or someinthg, BAR should be banned and fined.
Ralfie was stupid there, lifting in the tunnel and forcing the other car to go through, tho Alonso shouldn't have took a chance. Putting up a finger when your car is still spinning dangerously won't win you any friends.
And any fecking one laughed when M$ emerged from the tunnel with suspension and all smashed?
I did.
Looking at the incident again tho, Juanker was actually a lap down and had no business being so close to M$.
Still feckiing funny brain fade tho.
I reckon what made him to brake was there was some kind of debris on the track, you could see him locking up left wheel, and I don't see the reasonfor doing so unless something was wrong.
Shame we didn't have the engine cover view of the car to see exactly what had happened
M$'s lock up and the very long mark it left
MelvinYeo said:
I don't think so. Engines blow all the time, cars develop problems all the time - do you think they should all pull over the second they ha a problem? What about Panis in Adeladie in 1995, or Coulthard himself at Monaco( I think) a few years back when they were able to change the settings on the engine using two way telemetry, thus preventing the blow-up even when it smoked for more of less the whole race. The problem with Coulthard is that its always someone else's fault. He's crap. Him blaming other teams for the silly little thoughts that occur to him after the event doesn't make him any less crap. He should retire. He is acting like someone who doesn't want to be out there. He is just collecting salary from McLaren and just does not figure at all during a race weekend.
MelvinYeo said:
er....you probably regret typing that - understandably so.
MelvinYeo said:
Totally illogical. Punish for the incident - not for the consequences.
MelvinYeo said:
They were both stupid. Alonso has form in the crap decision making department, and Ralf is just a twat.
MelvinYeo said:
I know you don't like Montoya, but try to stay reasonably sensible about it. It was a safety car, in the tunnel at Moaco and the Ferrari locked its brakes. It has nothing to do with whether or not he should've been there. There was a line of cars travelling slowly - if it wasn't him it would have been someone else.
pjaya said:
Nah, its a competiton to see who finishes first, not who is the nicest team. According to you everyone knew the engine was going to blow, blue smoke, oil burning, small amount of oil.....bang, so why was everyone taken by surprise then. Coulthard comes out and reckons he saw it smoking on the warm-up lap, yet he ploughed into the smoke as if he didn't see it. Why? - because he was racing, like BAR and Sato. If anyone needs to look at themselves, its the marshalls for being so slow with the flags, and Coulthard for being a berk with a microphone in front of him.
Of course they let him continue on - its a race.
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Keane16 said:
iI dont think anyone would appreciate it if you blow up right infront of them in such a tight narrow circuit and leave a trail of smoke without any visibility.
You might even slide into the barriers because of the oil left on track ffs.
Coulthard - this year will be my year
If there was any consquences it owuld prompt the FIA and it could have been another Imola 94 or something similar. You just simply don't drive with 0 visibilty in such a narrow track. Sato should've been black flagged
I don't care about Juanker, he hsas experienced some of this M$ brake testing before and he should have kept a lookout rfor it rather than being on the fecking Ferraris arsehole.
M$ was doing all the shit in the tunnel, not the cleverest thing to do but at least for safety purposes at least try and stay awayfrom the fecking front car as possible. You don't close right up in the tunnel and there's half a lap still to go.
Both sides at fault, yes but if there was someone else there, he wouldn't have been as stupid as Juanker.
Trulli was right on the money IMO : Basically, to be honest, what I try to do is keep away from the guy in front of me and have a couple of cars’ distance. But Montoya was not doing it, but on the other hand Michael was obviously trying to warm up the tyres. It is difficult to say who was at fault, it really just happened, and I tried to keep away from this incident. I saw that something was going on because they were so close, going really fast down to the Mirabeau, and, in the end, it has happened in the tunnel. And, you know, it was something that I thought ‘oh, maybe they are going to crash’ and they did.
At the end of the day the stewards decided no action will be taken, anbd for the matter no action will be taken towards Ralf/Alonso either.
MelvinYeo said:
You might - and it would be tough shit.
MelvinYeo said:
First of all, the FIA are rubbish. I repeat, you can't punish on the basis of consequences. Thats not to say they don't, but horse, stable door, bolted etc...its Monaco for jaysus sake. They've been there before....
MelvinYeo said:
You do if the car in front slams on the anchors, in the tunnel, in the dark. Mick fecked up - thats the fact. In hindsight, you could ask what Montoya was doing there etc...but thats missing the point. Mick was the one slapping on the anchors and causing the cars to back up - through the tunnel ffs. He got what he deserved.
MelvinYeo said:
...if there was someone else there maybe Mick wouldn't have been slapping in the brakes. Now thats stupid.
Keane16 said:
OK, the engine couldve gone anytime and what if it was in the tunnel?
Wouldn't be there more serious trouble??
M$ HAS done it before braking and accelrating but he havent flatspotted a tire yet until then. Anyway he has done it before behind the safety car and why the previous times nobody has hit him before?
MelvinYeo said:
Perhaps because he hasn't done it in the tunnel where visibility is extremely poor and run off space non-existent. Montoya tried to avoid him, but had nowhere to go.
At Monaco you have to be careful about warming your brakes and tyres. Doing it in the tunnel is just total insanity, and frankly Schumacher should get reprimanded. It doesn't come over on the tele just how dark it is in there, especially on a sunny day. Monaco is a dirty track, your visor is covered in filth and your eyes are adjusting to the dingy tunnel... Montoya did well not to just fly into the back of him.
'Forza Viola said:
If you watch it again, you could very well see Juanker diving down the inside at full speed it seemed rather than slamming on his brakes as well to avoid any contact or diving the other way. M$ did his part in closing the door as well.(?)
But it could still be an unfortunate incident of one driver's not reading another's mind, M$ braking, Juanker accelerating.
The cars travel at around 100kmh during saftety car and certainly the 'shock' of adjusting your vision to the tunnel is definitely not as bad as travelling at full racing speed. There're also floodlights in there I believe to have as muhc lighting as possible.
Quite frankly it was 100% motormouth's fault. Schumi was all set to win the 6th race in a row for the all time record and that fecking lunatic drug dealer had to ruin everything.Forza Viola said:
Cal said:Quite frankly it was 100% motormouth's fault. Schumi was all set to win the 6th race in a row for the all time record and that fecking lunatic drug dealer had to ruin everything.
Thanks Cal.
You actually make Melvyn look sensible.
Keane16 said:Thanks Cal.
You actually make Melvyn look sensible.
I can be sensible as i hate both of them, Juanker more admitedly but hey! At least I am not a fanboy
MelvinYeo said:I can be sensible as i hate both of them, Juanker more admitedly but hey! At least I am not a fanboy
except of Kimi Fireball Raikkonen
'Keane16 said:
But we're not talking about him are we?
MelvinYeo said:'
But we're not talking about him are we?
Yes we are, try and keep up.
Right cnuts, enough bickering, Michael mucked it up.
Now, Nurburgring.
Like this circuit actually, even though its a pale reflection of the original Nordschleife(?) - which, of course, I've never seen.
Anyway, it may not be the German GP, but it is in Germany, so the silver lads will not want their engines going ka-boom. Therefore, I predict that Kimi will get on the podium. The main danger to Ferrari though, has to be Renault. Good aero always pays out big at this circuit, but I question Renaults horsepower as there are a few uphill drags. Therefore, I'm going for a Schumacher win in his backyard. Mick that is, Ralf is crap.
So far this year though, I've been wrong every time.
Best Nurburgring Moment: Schumi tags Alesi on the outside of the Veedol 1995. Magnifique.
Now, Nurburgring.
Like this circuit actually, even though its a pale reflection of the original Nordschleife(?) - which, of course, I've never seen.
Anyway, it may not be the German GP, but it is in Germany, so the silver lads will not want their engines going ka-boom. Therefore, I predict that Kimi will get on the podium. The main danger to Ferrari though, has to be Renault. Good aero always pays out big at this circuit, but I question Renaults horsepower as there are a few uphill drags. Therefore, I'm going for a Schumacher win in his backyard. Mick that is, Ralf is crap.
So far this year though, I've been wrong every time.
Best Nurburgring Moment: Schumi tags Alesi on the outside of the Veedol 1995. Magnifique.
Right cnuts, Juanker was at fault.
Now the ring, bolloxy circuit, never liked it and it shapes up to be an utterly shite race which one car will dominate.
I kin hope Juanker and allcrashes out or something.
Now the ring, bolloxy circuit, never liked it and it shapes up to be an utterly shite race which one car will dominate.
I kin hope Juanker and allcrashes out or something.
MelvinYeo said:
Thanks for the in depth analysis of this weeks race.
Feckin eejit.
How do you think Fireball will get on?
Keane16 said:
He'd doalright imo, he almost won there last year and should be able to challenge if McLaren;s up to it.
MelvinYeo said:
Its like you have crystal ball. I bet the bookies run when they see you coming.
Keane16 said:
You too you know.
But it's the opposite of me, bookies acrtually run towards you
MelvinYeo said:You too you know.
But it's the opposite of me, bookies acrtually run towards you
They can run all they like. I never bet. Having said that, I bet when Mick pulls in for his second stop, they will actually manage to put 4 wheels on the thing.
Unlike 1999 when they were still grappling with basic vehicle dynamics. Cnuts.
Keane16 said:
Ahh those were great times for McLaren
MelvinYeo said:Ahh those were great times for McLaren
What are you going to do when Montoya comes across then? You'll either have to change your tune, look like a moron, or both.
Keane16 said:
I am primarilyA finn supporter(Hakkinen and Raikkonen) and secondarily a McLaren supproter.
So I couldn't care less
THerre's talk of him wanting to go back on the contract anyway, but if he does, I am sure Ron will squeeze every penny out of him for ocmpensation
M$pole yet again by 0.635
Kimi fourth I think, good result after problems for DC. Juanker down at 7th
Kimi fourth I think, good result after problems for DC. Juanker down at 7th
- Montoya just bumped R. Schumacher off the track... Ralfie is out... only made it to the first corner - Just adds petrol to the fire
Montoya DanishDevil said:
- Just adds petrol to the fire
Juanker having chopped off his front wing with that incident and still strugging
What a fecking joke tho, in front of Mercedes sponsors and all two blown engines for McLaren.
M$ wins again, Barrichello second
best moment was when M$ was neraly taken out by Panis
best moment was when M$ was neraly taken out by Panis
Ferrari 1-2 again.MelvinYeo said:M$ wins again, Barrichello second
best moment was when M$ was neraly taken out by Panis
2 idiots on the race track today!
1st Pinball. wtf is he trying to pull the during the 1st corner. Lock up his front, hit ralfyboy rear who inturn destroy matta front. I guess he have to hit anyone by name shummi. Can't get micheal, hit his teammate instead!
2nd is sato... BANZAI,.............Kaput.
1st Pinball. wtf is he trying to pull the during the 1st corner. Lock up his front, hit ralfyboy rear who inturn destroy matta front. I guess he have to hit anyone by name shummi. Can't get micheal, hit his teammate instead!
2nd is sato... BANZAI,.............Kaput.
pjaya said:1st Pinball. wtf is he trying to pull the during the 1st corner. Lock up his front, hit ralfyboy rear who inturn destroy matta front. I guess he have to hit anyone by name shummi. Can't get micheal, hit his teammate instead!
Juan PAblo What would F1 be without him?
A lot more safer.DanishDevil said:
MelvinYeo said:
F1 is pretty safe.
This was Micks race from the moment Sato and Trulli didn't get ahead at the start. It was boring, obviously apart from Montoya and Sato who are heroes.
Anyone who like motor racing and doesn't like Montoya and Sato has a hole in their soul.
Well if you like seeing accidents happen Takusan and Juanker are the men for you.Keane16 said:
Legitimate menouveres you got to see someone like Alonso tho.
MelvinYeo said:
you must have forgotten to put the wink smilie in - I mean, of all the drivers you could have chosen to make your point, Alonso is the worst. Edit that post quick.
Keane16 said:
you must have forgotten to put the wink smilie in - I mean, of all the drivers you could have chosen to make your point, Alonso is the worst. Edit that post quick.
M$
Barrichello
Ralf
DC
Kimi
Trulli
Button
Webber
Klien
Fisi
Massa
Da Matta
Panis
Heidfeld
Pantano
Bruni
Baumgartner
Happy then?