The Double Draft

Chesterlestreet said:
Those rankings are problematic, though. The IFFHS one (which is vote based, AFAIK) clearly includes all sorts of factors - some of which are not relevant if what you want is an idea about peak level over a reasonable period (say 3-5 seasons): Roger Milla, to make the most obvious example, is extremely highly rated - above the likes of Baresi, Figueroa, Facchetti, Masopust, Rummenigge, etc. Which is only justifiable if you take factors like longevity, general "legend" status, regional importance (being a key figure in African football history) - and so forth - into consideration.
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That much is true, I would never use this list as an objective truth for picking players in draft. When used with a bit of common sense its still a decent starting point when you start comparing really old players.
 
harms said:
No love for Perfumo? It may very well be my United bias but I rate him higher than Hansen and he was even cheaper.

Plus if you consider how much Ruggeri went for, when Perfumo is more often considered a better partner for Passarella in Argie's XI


Pretty happy with Koeman too, especially considering that he was literally the first bid anyone made when all still had their full budgets, but there were better deals later.
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Perfumo is awesome, I should have gone for him, as he also have a proven partnership with Passarella. I used him in one of the previous draft finals and did not get much loving against Ruggeri. So did not want to go through that again.
 
harms said:
Right:
Garrincha
Jairzinho
Matthews
Figo
Conti? Not sure about the fifth

HM: Johnstone, Hamrin, Robben

Left:
Dzajic
Czibor
Gento
Nedved (a bit of a stretch to call him a pure winger maybe)
Giggs

HM: Ribery, Keizer, Rensenbrink

Excluded Best, Finney and others because I don't think that they are archetypical wingers. Nedved and Rebsenbrink are on the edge.

The all-time pool of pure wingers is really poor
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I don't think you can argue with any of that.

It's difficult to find much of a pool there once it's narrowed down to orthodox touchline-hugging wingers. The most talented players always find a way to move central to increase their influence, with Ronaldo, Messi and Henry being the best examples from recent times. And taking it back some time, the likes of Best, Finney and Czibor were too multi-faceted to be constrained to just a wide role. And it's only really in fantasy XIs are the teams strong enough to justify pushing those players wide. The possible exception at the moment being Messi at Barcelona alongside Suarez and Neymar, but he still has the freedom to roam and that's more of an indication of the fantasy strength of the modern club side.

It gets a lot more competitive when you start to include all the wide attackers and someone like Ronaldinho would be right up in the mix for example.
 
Physiocrat said:
@Tuppet
@harms @mazhar13 @Gio

With all the winger chat who would you put as your top five out and out left and right wingers?
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Mine would be same as @harms list, except for may be Jairzinho. I think even Best was more winger than he was. For his club side he was the "ponta-de-lança", a mix of an AM and SS, the number 10 player in Brazil just like Pele. In Botafogo, the club he played in most of his career, he was the number 10 and played the Pele role. The right winger (number 7) of that great team was Rogério, who played some games as the starter for the NT, but got injured before the WC. Jairzinho played improvised as the right winger in the 1970 team, mostly because his favorite position was occupied by Pele and there was no right winger of there quality available, not unlike Rivelino.

I would probably pick Robben to replace him in the list and add Jair da costa, Pepe and Julinho to the honorary mentions.
 
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Rio and Nemanja reunited!
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Manchester United have some great partnerships over the years. Vidic and Ferdinand rank up there as one of the best ever seen at Old Trafford. The partnership was a true combination of Silk and Steel.
In their first full season playing together United won the Premier League title and reached the semi-finals of both the FA Cup and Champions League, with both players being named in the PFA Team of the Year.

For two seasons from 2007 until 2009, Vidic and Ferdinand were the best central defensive partnership in Europe.
They started 41 games together as United retained the Premier League title reached the Champions League final for the first time in nine years.
The Champions League final was the first all English final in the competition as United faced Chelsea, who they had already beaten to the Premier League title, in Moscow.
With club captain Gary Neville out injured, Ferdinand was handed the captain’s armband on a regular basis. Along with Ryan Giggs, Ferdinand had the pleasure of lifting the Champions League trophy after United won the game on penalties, the game finishing 1-1 after extra-time.

The 2008/09 season once again saw Vidic and Ferdinand being an integral part of the United team. Another successful season for United and pair winning the Club World Cup in December. They also went on to win the League Cup and win the Premier League title for third successive season.

Their partnership was the classic central defensive combination. One tough guy and one ball playing defender. Vidic seen as the tough one, the enforcer if you like. Though he wasn’t just this, he could also play football and contribute crucial goals to the United cause.
Now Ferdinand may have been the ball playing half of the partnership but he wasn’t soft, he certainly knew how to look after himself on the pitch. This is what made the best of their generation, they weren’t one dimension players but knew what their strengths were.

In the 2008/09 season they were part of the United defence that set a world record 1,311 minutes in the league. Overall United kept 28 cleans sheets in the 2008/09 Premier League season.
Ferdinand and Vidic were both named in the PFA team of the Year for the 2007/08 and the 2008/09 seasons. They were also nominated in the PFA player of the Year award for the 2008/09 season. These nominations shows how much pair were respected by their peers.

Peter Schmeichel said:
“The game has changed a lot since I played – it’s much quicker nowadays and there are even more skilful players around. That’s why Rio and Vidic are so impressive.”
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Didier Drogba said:
“People say I scored a few goals against Manchester United and I would say when I was scoring against Manchester United I was really, really happy because I didn’t score much. So for me to score against [ . . . ] means that I had a good game.”
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Sir Bobby Charlton said:
“We’ve had some magnificent centre halves down the years. But these two form the most formidable pairing of all.”
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Sir Alex Ferguson(in his autobiography) said:
“Vidić and Ferdinand were a rock to build a team on.”
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Sir Alex Ferguson said:
“I have not seen a better defensive pairing than him and Nemanja for a long time.”
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Gary Neville(in his autobiography) said:
“There’s an argument that Rio and Vidic need each other to be at their best [ . . . ] They are a fantastic combination, a great blend, with Rio’s wonderful all-round ability to see the game, to make interceptions and to play the ball in the tightest of spaces alongside Vidic getting in the way of everything. The bottom line is they have played in three Champions League finals together during the club’s golden period.”
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Rio Ferdinand said:
“We didn’t work on it in training, we could smell each other’s movement, you just knew, it was instinct. I knew when he was going to go tight and I’d go round and cover. I knew when he was going to drop off, I’d push in. I knew when he was in a bit of trouble, I’d always hang back and be that safety net for him. He was the best partner and favourite partner I played with.”
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Nemanja Vidic said:
“We have played for seven years together and we have had so much success. We understood each other from the first day. Sometimes you understand a player and see the game in the same way; if you have a player who likes to play a different way, sometimes it is difficult to play well together.”
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Physiocrat said:
With all the winger chat who would you put as your top five out and out left and right wingers?
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Good question. It's not that easy for me to select the top 5 wingers on each side as there are so many great wingers around. If you ask me this question 3 times, I'll give you 3 different lists (6 in this case), so I'm not the best person to ask this question.
 
Top 7 RW

Garrincha
Best
Figo
Matthews
Robben
Johnstone
Jairzinho

Top 7 LW

C.Ronaldo
Ronaldinho
Gento
Dzajic
Czibor
Giggs
Ribery

I see Boniek and Nedved more as attacking mids who start from out wide whereas a Ronaldo stays on the wing more often and despite being seen as a forward, needs to stay on the flank to be effective. Kalle less so.
 
Crap news report, though - didn't even show Charlton's equalizer.

Speaking of - I wonder if that's him with the shot Alonso just about parries there.

United's team would've been:

Wood
Foulkes - Blanchflower - Byrne
Colman - Edwards
Whelan - Charlton
Berry - Taylor - Pegg​
 
Chesterlestreet said:
@Pat_Mustard Seeing Olsen in that list made me think of his compatriot of the same name - a player who would never get picked in this context, but who is nevertheless interesting in his own way: I'd like a draft at some point where the likes of him are featured - that level of player, if you catch my drift. Good players - not great, but good. Building solid teams - not star studded teams, but good teams. See the thing?

But it's hard to come up with a theme which would make it natural to draft from that pool - you'd have to block a whole shitload of players, or operate with criteria which somehow filter said players out.
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I forgot to reply to this the other day, but its an interesting point. I reckon the mooted follow up to Aldo's Reserves Draft is the way to go if we fancy a draft with a more obscure pool. Basically add every player chosen in that draft to the blocked list Aldo posted, then everyone else is fair game. There's one guy in particular that I'd love to build a team around. We actually came close to picking him first or second in that Reserve Draft, then changed plans completely.
 
Tuppet said:
Mine would be same as @harms list, except for may be Jairzinho. I think even Best was more winger than he was. For his club side he was the "ponta-de-lança", a mix of an AM and SS, the number 10 player in Brazil just like Pele. In Botafogo, the club he played in most of his career, he was the number 10 and played the Pele role. The right winger (number 7) of that great team was Rogério, who played some games as the starter for the NT, but got injured before the WC. Jairzinho played improvised as the right winger in the 1970 team, mostly because his favorite position was occupied by Pele and there was no right winger of there quality available, not unlike Rivelino.

I would probably pick Robben to replace him in the list and add Jair da costa, Pepe and Julinho to the honorary mentions.
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Yeah, that's fair
 
as chester i would also love to play a draft with only good players that never get picked. Maybe block everyone from aldo reserves draft and previous all time draft, in that case i have a question for @harms :D Even though i didnt watch him enough i always loved Zyryanov, when ever i watched him he was class. Do you think he would be good enough for that type of draft or even then he would be out of depth?
 
Šjor Bepo said:
as chester i would also love to play a draft with only good players that never get picked. Maybe block everyone from aldo reserves draft and previous all time draft, in that case i have a question for @harms :D Even though i didnt watch him enough i always loved Zyryanov, when ever i watched him he was class. Do you think he would be good enough for that type of draft or even then he would be out of depth?
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CM legend. :drool:
 
Šjor Bepo said:
as chester i would also love to play a draft with only good players that never get picked. Maybe block everyone from aldo reserves draft and previous all time draft
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It's literally be the dregs of football esp in later draft rounds...and that would be boring.

Ideally they'd fit better in a Reality Draft. Instead of DoF GOATs just make a list of good but not picked players and distribute them at random. Fill up other positions with popular picks and you have a cracking combination.
 
Enigma_87 said:
CM legend. :drool:
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was he? i played from 3 to 00/01 but i cant remember that i ever used him :(

Edgar Allan Pillow said:
It's literally be the dregs of football esp in later draft rounds...and that would be boring.

Ideally they'd fit better in a Reality Draft. Instead of DoF GOATs just make a list of good but not picked players and distribute them at random. Fill up other positions with popular picks and you have a cracking combination.
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maybe, id still love that personally.
you can add a land in your monopoly draft with this players as well :)
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
It's literally be the dregs of football esp in later draft rounds...and that would be boring.
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Come on man we're proposing a draft with 400 players in the entire history of the sport being excluded. We'd hardly have to plumb the depths of the sport to find another 192 mostly capable players! The matches would probably be low-voting affairs as it would be difficult for most of us to seperate the teams, but the drafting would be challenging and alot of fun IMO. Like @Chesterlestreet pointing out regarding another Olsen, it'd be good to see players like that getting highlighted. I still suspect there's a few knocking about that wouldn't look positively out of place in a proper all-time pool.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Keyword: few. Not saying they aren't. There would be around 20+ hidden gems in a pool of nearly 200, imo.
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There's alot of talent beyond those few standouts who might never feature in an unrestricted all-time draft but who were still excellent footballers. I wouldn't expect us to be drafting the likes of Heskey or Cattermole by the time our later picks rolled around.

EDIT: And if the drop in quality really was that precipitous it would make for an amusing drafting process IMO.
 
Downcast said:
@Pat_Mustard

You mean you would like a 'Reserve Reserve Reserve draft' or a 'Reserve Premier League draft'?
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Basically an all-time draft with the following players:

The Outcasts

ALONSO, Xabi (CM | Spain)
AMOROS, Manuel (RB, LB | France)
ANDRADE, José Leandro (DM, RB | Uruguay)
AUGUSTO, José (RW | Portugal)
AYALA, Roberto (CB | Argentina)
BARESI, Franco (CB, SW | Italy)
BAGGIO, Roberto (SS, AM | Italy)
BALLACK, Michael (AM, CM | Germany)
BANKS, Gordon (GK | England)
BATISTUTA, Gabriel (ST | Argentina)
BECKENBAUER, Franz (SW, CB, DM | Germany)
BECKHAM, David (RW | England)
BERGKAMP, Dennis (SS | Holland)
BERGOMI, Giuseppe (RB, CB | Italy)
BEST, George (RW, LW | N. Ireland)
BLANC, Laurent (CB | France)
BLOKHIN, Oleh (ST, WF | Russia)
BONIEK, Zibi (RW, AM, RM | Poland)
BOZSIK, Jozsef (CM, DM | Hungary)
BREHME, Andreas (LB | Germany)
BREITNER, Paul (CM, LB | Germany)
BREMNER, Billy (CM | Scotland)
BRIEGEL, Hans-Peter (LB, CB, DM | Germany)
BURGNICH, Tarcisio (CB, RB | Italy)
BUSQUETS, Sergio (DM | Spain)
CABRINI, Antonio (LB | Italy)
CAFU (RB | Brazil)
CAMACHO, José Antonio (LB, RB | Spain)
CANNAVARO, Fabio (CB | Italy)
CANTONA, Eric (SS | France)
CARLOS ALBERTO (RB, CB | Brazil)
CARVALHO, Ricardo (CB | Portugal)
CECH, Petr (GK | Czech Republic)
CHARLES, John (ST, CB | Wales)
CHARLTON, Bobby (AM, LW | England)
CHILAVERT, José Luis (GK | Paraguay)
CHUMPITAZ, Hector (CB | Peru)
COLE, Ashley (LB | England)
COLUNA, Mario (CM, AM | Portugal)
CORDOBA, Ivan (CB | Colombia)
COSTACURTA, Alessandro (CB | Italy)
CRUYFF, Johan (SS, LW, AM | Holland)
CZIBOR, Zoltan (LW | Hungary)
DEMYANENKO, Anatoliy (LB | Russia)
DASAYEV, Rinat (GK | Russia)
DAVIDS, Edgar (CM, DM | Holland)
DECO (AM | Portugal)
DEL PIERO, Alessandro (FW | Italy)
DESAILLY, Marcel (CB, DM | France)
DESCHAMPS, Didier (CM, DM | France)
DI STEFANO, Alfredo (SS, AM, ST | Argentina)
DIDI (AM, CM | Brazil)
DJALMA SANTOS (RB | Brazil)
DOMINGOS DA GUIA (CB | Brazil)
DROGBA, Didier (ST | Ivory Coast)
DŽAJIĆ, Dragan (LW | Serbia)
EDWARDS, Duncan (CM, DM | England)
EFFENBERG, Stefan (CM, DM | Germany)
ERICO, Arsenio (ST | Paraguay)
ESSIEN, Michael (CM, DM | Ghana)
EUSEBIO (ST, SS | Portugal)
ETO'O, Samuel (ST | Cameroon)
EYZAGUIRRE, Luis (RB | Chile)
FABREGAS, Cesc (CM | Spain)
FACCHETTI, Giacinto (LB, SW | Italy)
FALCÃO, Paulo Roberto (CM, AM | Brazil)
FERDINAND, Rio (CB | England)
FIGO, Luis (RW, LW | Portugal)
FIGUEROA, Elias (SW, CB | Chile)
FILLOL, Ubaldo (GK | Argentina)
FINNEY, Tom (RW, LW | England)
FRANKLIN, Neil (CB | England)
GAMARRA, Carlos (CB | Paraguay)
GARRINCHA (RW | Brazil)
GASCOIGNE, Paul (CM, AM | England)
GENTILE, Claudio (CB, RB | Italy)
GENTO, Paco (LW, Spain)
GERETS, Eric (RB | Belgium)
GERMANO (CB, DN | Portugal)
GIGGS, Ryan (LW | Wales)
GILES, Johnny (CM | Rep. of Ireland)
GORDILLO, Raphael (LB | Spain)
GREGG, Harry (GK | N. Ireland)
GUARDIOLA, Pep (DM | Spain)
GULLIT, Ruud (AM, SS, CM | Holland)
HAAN, Arie (DM | Holland)
HAGI (AM, W | Romania)
HAMRIN, Kurt (RW | Sweden)
HANSEN, Alan (CB | Scotland)
HAPPEL, Ernst (LB, CB | Austria)
HENRY, Thierry (ST, LW | France)
HIERRO, Fernando (CB, DM | Spain)
IBRAHIMOVIĆ, Zlatan (ST | Sweden)
INIESTA, Andres (CM, AM, LW | Spain)
IRWIN, Dennis (LB | Rep. of Ireland)
JAIRZINHO (RW, AM | Brazil)
JANES, Paul (RB | Germany)
JENNINGS, Pat (GK | N. Ireland)
JOHNSTONE, Jimmy (RW | Scotland)
KAHN, Oliver (GK | Germany)
KEANE, Roy (CM | Rep. of Ireland)
KEEGAN, Kevin (SS | England)
KOCSIS, Sandor (ST | Hungary)
KOEMAN, Ronald (SW, CB | Holland)
KOHLER, Jurgen (CB | Germany)
KOPA, Raymond (AM, RW | France)
KROL, Ruud (LB, SW | Holland)
KUBALA, Ladislao (SS, WF | Hungary)
LAHM, Phillip (RB, DM | Germany)
LAUDRUP, Michael (AM, RW | Denmark)
LAW, Denis (ST | Scotland)
LITTBARSKI, Pierre (RW, LW | Germany)
LIZARAZU, Bixente (LB | France)
LUIS ENRIQUE (RW, LW, CM | Spain)
MACKAY, Dave (CM | Scotland)
MAIER, Sepp (GK | Germany)
MAKÉLÉLÉ, Claude (DM | France)
MALDINI, Paolo (LB, CB | Italy)
MARADONA, Diego (AM, SS | Argentina)
MARZOLINI, Silvio (LB | Argentina)
MATTHÄUS, Lothar (CM, DM, SW | Germany)
MATTHEWS, Stanley (RW | England)
MASOPUST, Josef (CM | Czech Republic)
MAZURKIEWICZ, Ladislao (GK | Uruguay)
MCGRAIN, Danny (RB | Scotland)
MCGRATH, Paul (CB | Rep. of Ireland)
MCNEIL, Billy (CB | Scotland)
MEAZZA, Guiseppe (SS, ST | Italy)
MESSI, Lionel (RW, F9 | Argentina)
MONTERO, Paolo (CB | Uruguay)
MONTI, Luis (DM | Argentina)
MOORE, Bobby (CB | England)
MORENO, Jose Manuel (AM, RW | Argentina)
MORTON, Alan (LW | Scotland)
MÜLLER, Gerd (ST | Germany)
NASAZZI, José (CB, RB | Uruguay)
NEDVED, Pavel (LW, AM | Czech Republic)
NEESKENS, Johan (CM | Holland)
NESTA, Alessandro (CB | Italy)
NETZER, Gunter (AM, CM | Germany)
NILTON SANTOS (LB | Brazil)
NORDAHL, Gunnar (ST | Sweden)
OCWIRK, Ernst (CM | Austria)
PASSARELLA, Daniel (SW, CB | Argentina)
PÉLE (AM, SS, ST | Brazil)
PETERS, Martin (CM | England)
PFAFF, Jean Marie (GK | Belgium)
PIRLO, Andrea (CM | Italy)
PIRRI, José (CM, DM | Spain)
PLATINI, Michel (AM, SS | France)
POPESCU, Gheorghe (CB, SW | Romania)
POPLUHÁR, Ján (CB | Czech Republic)
PREUD'HOMME, Michel (GK | Belgium)
PUSKAS, Ferenc (SS, ST | Hungary)
PUYOL, Carles (CB | Spain)
QUINCOCES, Jacinto (CB | Spain)
RAÚL (ST | Spain)
REDONDO, Fernando (DM, CM | Argentina)
RIBERY, Franck (LW | France)
RIJKAARD, Frank (DM, CM, SW | Holland)
RIQUELME, Juan Román (AM | Argentina)
RIVALDO (SS, LW | Brazil)
RIVELINO (AM, LW | Brazil)
ROBBEN, Arjen (RW | Holland)
ROBERTO CARLOS (LB | Brazil)
ROBSON, Bryan (CM | England)
ROMÁRIO (ST | Brazil)
RONALDINHO (LW, AM | Brazil)
RONALDO, Cristiano (RW, LW | Portugal)
RONALDO, Luis (ST | Brazil)
RUI COSTA, Manuel (AM, CM | Portugal)
RUMMENIGGE, Karl-Heinz (SS, WF | Germany)
SANTAMARIA, Jose (CB | Uruguay)
SAMMER, Matthias (SW, DM | Germany)
SANCHEZ, Hugo (ST | Mexico)
SÁROSI, György (SS, AM | Hungary)
SAVIĆEVIĆ, Dejan (RW, AM | Montenegro)
SCHIAFFINO, Juan Alberto (SS, AM | Uruguay)
SCHMIECHEL, Peter (GK | Denmark)
SCHNELLINGER, Karl-Heinz (LB, CB | Germany)
SCHOLES, Paul (CM, AM | England)
SCHUSTER, Bernd (CM, AM | Germany)
SCIFO, Enzo (AM | Belgium)
SCIREA, Gaetano (SW, CB | Italy)
SEEDORF, Clarence (CM, AM | Holland)
SHESTERNYOV, Albert (CB | Russia)
SHEVCHENKO, Andriy (ST | Ukraine)
SHILTON, Peter (GK | England)
SIVORI, Omar (AM, LW | Argentina)
SOCRATES (AM | Brazil)
SOUNESS, Graeme (CM | Scotland)
SOUTHALL, Neville (GK | Wales)
SPENCER, Alberto (ST | Ecuador)
STAM, Jaap (CB | Holland)
STANKOVIĆ, Dejan (CM | Serbia)
STOICHKOV, Hristo (LW, RW | Bulgaria)
SUÁREZ, Luis (CM, AM | Spain)
SUURBIER, Wim (RB | Holland)
TARDELLI, Marco (CM, DM | Italy)
THURAM, Lilian (CB, RB | France)
TIGANA, Jean (CM, DM | France)
TOTTI, Francesco (AM, F9 | Italy)
TOURÉ, Yaya (CM, DM | Ivory Coast)
TRÉSOR, Marius (CB | France)
VALDERRAMA, Carlos (CM, AM | Colombia)
VAN BASTEN, Marco (ST | Holland)
VAN HANEGEM, Willem (CM | Holland)
VAN NISTELROOY, Ruud (ST | Holland)
VAN PERSIE, Robin (ST | Holland)
VARELA, Obdulio (DM | Uruguay)
VASOVIĆ, Velibor (CB, SW | Serbia)
VERÓN, Juan Sebastián (CM | Argentina)
VIDIC, Nemanja (CB | Serbia)
VIEIRA, Patrick (CM, DM | France)
VOGTS, Berti (RB | Germany)
VORONIN, Valery (DM | Russia)
WEAH, George (ST | Liberia)
XAVI (CM | Spain)
YASHIN, Lev (GK | Russia)
ZAMORA, Ricardo (GK | Spain)
ZANETTI, Javier (RB, LB, DM | Argentina)
ZEBEC, Branko (CB, LB, DM | Croatia)
ZICO (SS, AM | Brazil)
ZIDANE, Zinedine (AM | France)
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and all the players selected here all blocked.
 
I e always thought it would be interesting having a draft like that were it comes down to actual tactics rather than player quality.

I'd love to have players like Cole, Yorke and Ji-Sung actually getting drafted. The tactics element would be far greater in my eyes then.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Keyword: few. Not saying they aren't. There would be around 20+ hidden gems in a pool of nearly 200, imo.
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And that would be bad - how?

We wouldn't get to see the same YouTube clips celebrating the same players we've all seen celebrated before? Yes, that would be heart breaking, I'm sure, to some people.

To more or less sane people, however, seeing something you haven't already seen is generally considered - oh, I don't know...less boring than seeing the same bloody thing again for the umpteenth time.
 
Chesterlestreet said:
And that would be bad - how?

We wouldn't get to see the same YouTube clips celebrating the same players we've all seen celebrated before? Yes, that would be heart breaking, I'm sure, to some people.

To more or less sane people, however, seeing something you haven't already seen is generally considered - oh, I don't know...less boring than seeing the same bloody thing again for the umpteenth time.
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Don't say that. Areola is here :)
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
It's literally be the dregs of football esp in later draft rounds...and that would be boring.
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Dregs is brutally harsh. I imagine the players that get picked would generally be a cut or three above the average standard in any of the more focused drafts, such as the various Premier League or youth ones.
 
I still want to be involved in a premier league draft as it would then be a level playing field for me with not knowing lots of these older generation players.
 
Šjor Bepo said:
as chester i would also love to play a draft with only good players that never get picked. Maybe block everyone from aldo reserves draft and previous all time draft, in that case i have a question for @harms :D Even though i didnt watch him enough i always loved Zyryanov, when ever i watched him he was class. Do you think he would be good enough for that type of draft or even then he would be out of depth?
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Never liked him personally but he was brilliant for a few years around 2007 - 2008. Still think that there would be enough players better than him in the pool
 
@Edgar Allan Pillow @Enigma_87

I sent my write-up and lineup to Edgar. Let me know when our match will get started so that I can be ready for it. I probably won't get too involved until the late evening times, however, as I am restricted access to the Caf in my workplace.
 
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