The Criteria Draft - The Drafts

Fantastic Annah and paceme.

@Annahnomoss Id switch Ribery and Hazard. Ribery can do better on the right than hazard imo, while the latter is completely wasted there. Same goes for bigdunc whose not using Reus for his best skills and losing his strengths. Here both are better on the left, but I think Ribery will be much less damaged on the right.

@paceme that is a wonderful team. Well drafted!
 
Fantastic Annah and paceme.

@Annahnomoss Id switch Ribery and Hazard. Ribery can do better on the right than hazard imo, while the latter is completely wasted there. Same goes for bigdunc whose not using Reus for his best skills and losing his strengths. Here both are better on the left, but I think Ribery will be much less damaged on the right.

@paceme that is a wonderful team. Well drafted!


Cheers mate. Regarding Hazard and Ribery, they will both have free roles in the offense but Ribery is strict about his positioning on the formation so he will be playing out left. He has been asked to play elsewhere and he refuses, even if in the matches he'd do a role that is nearly identical.

I don't expect to dominate possession so they'd not be out wide almost ever, more like Rooney-Ronaldo-Tevez where none really played as a real wide winger in Europe but rather had free roles and attacked more centrally.
 
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That's fecking awesome mate. Very sexy. That said, I'd consider playing Cannavaro and Thuram centrally and getting someone else out wide.
 
It makes me much better defensively this way though don't you think ? Plus with that set i am pretty much guaranteed to dominate possession.

Agree, it will depend on your rival. I'm not a tiki-taka lover though so much prefer the verticality of playing López instead.
 
@antohan @Gio

If you are that confident, dig me out a winger with 90 - 99 caps.

fecking impossible.

We were talking about non-Europe players, that criterion is completely random (90-99, as if it meant jack) and much harder to research really. Left or right?

Edit: :lol: that Gio fave I was referring to would be perfect for you, just wrong criterion!
 
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Looks like this is our team to be:

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Pure counter attacking football.
When defending: Defense sits deep to sulk pressure and move on fast counters, Sammer as the Libero and him with de Boer using distribution to send balls forward to Messi and Eto'o to counter attack. Cocu LCM to cover for Zamrotta.
When attacking: Messi on the free role, Lahm and Zambrotta creating the width, Modric as the forward CM, Sammer as the deep playmaker.

That's the basic version :D

edit: made a Bayern cover to cheaply win @Balu 's vote. :lol:
 
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We were talking about non-Europe players, that criterion is completely random (90-99, as if it meant jack) and much harder to research really. Left or right?

Edit: :lol: that Gio fave I was referring to would be perfect for you, just wrong criterion!
He certainly would. :drool:
 
@Stobzilla, that 90-99 caps criterion would have been best used on a stunner of a player, not be left to the rigidity of finding a left winger with that number of caps. Maybe if you played Signori left you could widen the search to include CFs? Not that it helps much. Sent you a couple of options nonetheless.
 
I'm still stunned at one of the players not picked under born in X played for Y, and then people argue over Kanchelskis :lol:
 
Sorry mate. Hectic day at work. We pick Francisco Arce. Multiple league and Copa Libertadores winner in S-America. Part of a very good Paraguayan back 4. Never played in Europe.

1. VivaJanuzaj & Crappy - Messi, Sammer, Lahm, Zambrotta, Etoo, Cocu, F. de Boer, Hyypia, Kanchelskis, Valdes, Modric,
2. The Red Viper -Ronaldinho, Henry, Cafu, Kaka, Hierro, Popescu, Effenberg, Hamann, Mata, Naybet, Ceni,
3. Annahnomoss - Ronaldo 9, Thuram, Cannavaro, Ribery, Lizarazu, Pirlo, Essien, Petit, Hazard, Mihajlovic, Weidenfeller
4. Cutch - Maldini, Savicevic, Zanetti, Kohler, De Rossi, Benarrivo, Camoranesi, Lehmann, Djorkaeff, Dino Baggio, Hong Myung Bo
5. NoPace - Ronaldo 7, R. Baggio, Senna, Schweinsteiger, Thomas Hassler, Rooney, Aldair, T. Silva, Cech, Juanfran, Carboni
6. Stobzilla / KM - Zidane, Davids, Robben, Irwin, Signori, Ferrara, Van Der Sar, Veron, Pallister, Aurier, Thiago Alcantara
7. FromTheBench/Theon - Romário, Makélélé, Gerrard, Totti, Blanc, Sagnol, Samuel, Cantona, Panucci, Filipe Luis, Jose Luis Chilavert
8. EDogen - Keane, Scholes, Weah, Evra, Beckham, Bale, Gallas, Raul, Petrescu, Carvalho, Toldo
9. BigDunc9 - Xavi, Iniesta, Shevchenko, Albertini, F. Couto, Claudio Lopez, Baines, Reus, R. Jones, Benatia, Gilberto Silva
10. rpitroda - Nedved, Seedorf, Deco, Ferdinand, Luis Enrique, Guardiola, Zabaleta, Kluivert, Overmars, Gamarra, Clichy
11. BorisDeLeFora - Nesta, Vieira, Le Tissier, Lucio, Lampard, Villa, Ginola, van Bronckhorst, Emerson, Makaay, Kelly
12. Chesterlestreet - Stoichkov, Mendieta, Des Walker, Prosinečki, Ibrahimovic, Kahn, Bergkamp, Adams, Pessotto, Van Bommel, Reiziger
13. Paceme - Figo, Rui Costa, Batistuta, Vidic, Del Piero, Cambiasso, Yaya Toure, Abidal, Koscielny, Higuita, H. Ibarra.
14. NM / Snow - Redondo, Giggs, Ayala, Ballack, Fabregas, Ljungberg, Buffon, Costacurta, Higuain, Alaba, Arce
15. Aldo - Rivaldo, Desailly, Stam, Hagi, Simeone, Van Persie, G. Neville, Mascherano, Basler, Harte,
16. Edgar Allan pillow - Roberto Carlos, Litmanen, Pepe, Arteta, Suarez, Gattuso, Di Maria, Cazorla, P. Andersson, Maicon,

@Aldo
 
1. VivaJanuzaj & Crappy - Messi, Sammer, Lahm, Zambrotta, Etoo, Cocu, F. de Boer, Hyypia, Kanchelskis, Valdes, Modric,
2. The Red Viper -Ronaldinho, Henry, Cafu, Kaka, Hierro, Popescu, Effenberg, Hamann, Mata, Naybet, Ceni,
3. Annahnomoss - Ronaldo 9, Thuram, Cannavaro, Ribery, Lizarazu, Pirlo, Essien, Petit, Hazard, Mihajlovic, Weidenfeller
4. Cutch - Maldini, Savicevic, Zanetti, Kohler, De Rossi, Benarrivo, Camoranesi, Lehmann, Djorkaeff, Dino Baggio, Hong Myung Bo
5. NoPace - Ronaldo 7, R. Baggio, Senna, Schweinsteiger, Thomas Hassler, Rooney, Aldair, T. Silva, Cech, Juanfran, Carboni
6. Stobzilla / KM - Zidane, Davids, Robben, Irwin, Signori, Ferrara, Van Der Sar, Veron, Pallister, Aurier, Thiago Alcantara
7. FromTheBench/Theon - Romário, Makélélé, Gerrard, Totti, Blanc, Sagnol, Samuel, Cantona, Panucci, Filipe Luis, Jose Luis Chilavert
8. EDogen - Keane, Scholes, Weah, Evra, Beckham, Bale, Gallas, Raul, Petrescu, Carvalho, Toldo
9. BigDunc9 - Xavi, Iniesta, Shevchenko, Albertini, F. Couto, Claudio Lopez, Baines, Reus, R. Jones, Benatia, Gilberto Silva
10. rpitroda - Nedved, Seedorf, Deco, Ferdinand, Luis Enrique, Guardiola, Zabaleta, Kluivert, Overmars, Gamarra, Clichy
11. BorisDeLeFora - Nesta, Vieira, Le Tissier, Lucio, Lampard, Villa, Ginola, van Bronckhorst, Emerson, Makaay, Kelly
12. Chesterlestreet - Stoichkov, Mendieta, Des Walker, Prosinečki, Ibrahimovic, Kahn, Bergkamp, Adams, Pessotto, Van Bommel, Reiziger
13. Paceme - Figo, Rui Costa, Batistuta, Vidic, Del Piero, Cambiasso, Yaya Toure, Abidal, Koscielny, Higuita, H. Ibarra.
14. NM / Snow - Redondo, Giggs, Ayala, Ballack, Fabregas, Ljungberg, Buffon, Costacurta, Higuain, Alaba, Arce
15. Aldo - Rivaldo, Desailly, Stam, Hagi, Simeone, Van Persie, G. Neville, Mascherano, Basler, Harte, Peter Cech
16. Edgar Allan pillow - Roberto Carlos, Litmanen, Pepe, Arteta, Suarez, Gattuso, Di Maria, Cazorla, P. Andersson, Maicon,

@Aldo picks Peter Cech
 
Eh? He's picked already. NoPace has him.

You guys need to go back to the old format:

NoPace: 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Baggio 3. Senna 4. Schweinsteiger 5. Thomas Hassler 6. Rooney 7. Aldair 8. T.Silva 9. Cech 10. Juanfran 11. Carboni

It's just too garbled up and I for one haven't bothered keep up at all.
 
You guys need to go back to the old format:

NoPace: 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Baggio 3. Senna 4. Schweinsteiger 5. Thomas Hassler 6. Rooney 7. Aldair 8. T.Silva 9. Cech 10. Juanfran 11. Carboni

It's just too garbled up and I for one haven't bothered keep up at all.

Aye, that's fair enough. But 1) you don't have a vested interest in keeping up and 2) CTRL + F.

That's what I do. CTRL + F, check if your man is on the list.

Anyway - can't be helped now. We just have to wait. Some more. I'm off to bed anyway - see you all...oh, given the pace of this thing...sometime next month, I guess.
 
You guys need to go back to the old format:

NoPace: 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Baggio 3. Senna 4. Schweinsteiger 5. Thomas Hassler 6. Rooney 7. Aldair 8. T.Silva 9. Cech 10. Juanfran 11. Carboni

It's just too garbled up and I for one haven't bothered keep up at all.

Here you go...


1. VivaJanuzaj & Crappy - 1. Messi, 2. Sammer, 3. Lahm, 4. Zambrotta, 5. Etoo, 6. Cocu, 7. F. de Boer, 8. Hyypia, 9. Kanchelskis, 10. Valdes, 11. Modric,
2. The Red Viper -1. Ronaldinho, 2. Henry, 3. Cafu, 4. Kaka, 5. Hierro, 6. Popescu, 7. Effenberg, 8. Hamann, 9. Mata, 10. Naybet, 11. Ceni,
3. Annahnomoss - 1. Ronaldo 9, 2. Thuram, 3. Cannavaro, 4. Ribery, 5. Lizarazu, 6. Pirlo, 7. Essien, 8. Petit, 9. Hazard, 10. Mihajlovic, 11. Weidenfeller
4. Cutch - 1. Maldini, 2. Savicevic, 3. Zanetti, 4. Kohler, 5. De Rossi, 6. Benarrivo, 7. Camoranesi, 8. Lehmann, 9. Djorkaeff, 10. Dino Baggio, 11. Hong Myung Bo
5. NoPace - 1. Ronaldo 7, 2. R. Baggio, 3. Senna, 4. Schweinsteiger, 5. Thomas Hassler, 6. Rooney, 7. Aldair, 8. T. Silva, 9. Cech, 10. Juanfran, 11. Carboni
6. Stobzilla / KM - 1. Zidane, 2. Davids, 3. Robben, 4. Irwin, 5. Signori, 6. Ferrara, 7. Van Der Sar, 8. Veron, 9. Pallister, 10. Aurier, 11. Thiago Alcantara
7. FromTheBench/Theon - 1. Romário, 2. Makélélé, 3. Gerrard, 4. Totti, 5. Blanc, 6. Sagnol, 7. Samuel, 8. Cantona, 9. Panucci, 10. Filipe Luis, 11. Jose Luis Chilavert
8. EDogen - 1.Keane, 2. Scholes, 3. Weah, 4. Evra, 5. Beckham, 6. Bale, 7. Gallas, 8. Raul, 9. Petrescu, 10. Carvalho, 11. Toldo
9. BigDunc9 - 1. Xavi, 2. Iniesta, 3. Shevchenko, 4. Albertini, 5. F. Couto, 6. Claudio Lopez, 7. Baines, 8. Reus, 9. R. Jones, 10. Benatia, 11. Gilberto Silva
10. rpitroda - 1. Nedved, 2. Seedorf, 3. Deco, 4. Ferdinand, 5. Luis Enrique, 6. Guardiola, 7. Zabaleta, 8. Kluivert, 9. Overmars, 10. Gamarra, 11. Clichy
11. BorisDeLeFora - 1. Nesta, 2. Vieira, 3. Le Tissier, 4. Lucio, 5. Lampard, 6. Villa, 7. Ginola, 8. van Bronckhorst, 9. Emerson, 10. Makaay, 11. Kelly
12. Chesterlestreet - 1. Stoichkov, 2. Mendieta, 3. Des Walker, 4. Prosinečki, 5. Ibrahimovic, 6. Kahn, 7. Bergkamp, 8. Adams, 9. Pessotto, 10. Van Bommel, 11. Reiziger
13. Paceme - 1. Figo, 2. Rui Costa, 3. Batistuta, 4. Vidic, 5. Del Piero, 6. Cambiasso, 7. Yaya Toure, 8. Abidal, 9. Koscielny, 10. Higuita, 11. H. Ibarra.
14. NM / Snow - 1. Redondo, 2. Giggs, 3. Ayala, 4. Ballack, 5. Fabregas, 6. Ljungberg, 7. Buffon, 8. Costacurta, 9. Higuain, 10. Alaba, 11. Arce
15. Aldo - 1. Rivaldo, 2. Desailly, 3. Stam, 4. Hagi, 5. Simeone, 6. Van Persie, 7. G. Neville, 8. Mascherano, 9. Basler, 10. Harte
16. Edgar Allan pillow - 1. Roberto Carlos, 2. Litmanen, 3. Pepe, 4. Arteta, 5. Suarez, 6. Gattuso, 7. Di Maria, 8. Cazorla, 9. P. Andersson, 10. Maicon,

@Aldo to pick.
 
Here you go...


1. VivaJanuzaj & Crappy - 1. Messi, 2. Sammer, 3. Lahm, 4. Zambrotta, 5. Etoo, 6. Cocu, 7. F. de Boer, 8. Hyypia, 9. Kanchelskis, 10. Valdes, 11. Modric,
2. The Red Viper -1. Ronaldinho, 2. Henry, 3. Cafu, 4. Kaka, 5. Hierro, 6. Popescu, 7. Effenberg, 8. Hamann, 9. Mata, 10. Naybet, 11. Ceni,
3. Annahnomoss - 1. Ronaldo 9, 2. Thuram, 3. Cannavaro, 4. Ribery, 5. Lizarazu, 6. Pirlo, 7. Essien, 8. Petit, 9. Hazard, 10. Mihajlovic, 11. Weidenfeller
4. Cutch - 1. Maldini, 2. Savicevic, 3. Zanetti, 4. Kohler, 5. De Rossi, 6. Benarrivo, 7. Camoranesi, 8. Lehmann, 9. Djorkaeff, 10. Dino Baggio, 11. Hong Myung Bo
5. NoPace - 1. Ronaldo 7, 2. R. Baggio, 3. Senna, 4. Schweinsteiger, 5. Thomas Hassler, 6. Rooney, 7. Aldair, 8. T. Silva, 9. Cech, 10. Juanfran, 11. Carboni
6. Stobzilla / KM - 1. Zidane, 2. Davids, 3. Robben, 4. Irwin, 5. Signori, 6. Ferrara, 7. Van Der Sar, 8. Veron, 9. Pallister, 10. Aurier, 11. Thiago Alcantara
7. FromTheBench/Theon - 1. Romário, 2. Makélélé, 3. Gerrard, 4. Totti, 5. Blanc, 6. Sagnol, 7. Samuel, 8. Cantona, 9. Panucci, 10. Filipe Luis, 11. Jose Luis Chilavert
8. EDogen - 1.Keane, 2. Scholes, 3. Weah, 4. Evra, 5. Beckham, 6. Bale, 7. Gallas, 8. Raul, 9. Petrescu, 10. Carvalho, 11. Toldo
9. BigDunc9 - 1. Xavi, 2. Iniesta, 3. Shevchenko, 4. Albertini, 5. F. Couto, 6. Claudio Lopez, 7. Baines, 8. Reus, 9. R. Jones, 10. Benatia, 11. Gilberto Silva
10. rpitroda - 1. Nedved, 2. Seedorf, 3. Deco, 4. Ferdinand, 5. Luis Enrique, 6. Guardiola, 7. Zabaleta, 8. Kluivert, 9. Overmars, 10. Gamarra, 11. Clichy
11. BorisDeLeFora - 1. Nesta, 2. Vieira, 3. Le Tissier, 4. Lucio, 5. Lampard, 6. Villa, 7. Ginola, 8. van Bronckhorst, 9. Emerson, 10. Makaay, 11. Kelly
12. Chesterlestreet - 1. Stoichkov, 2. Mendieta, 3. Des Walker, 4. Prosinečki, 5. Ibrahimovic, 6. Kahn, 7. Bergkamp, 8. Adams, 9. Pessotto, 10. Van Bommel, 11. Reiziger
13. Paceme - 1. Figo, 2. Rui Costa, 3. Batistuta, 4. Vidic, 5. Del Piero, 6. Cambiasso, 7. Yaya Toure, 8. Abidal, 9. Koscielny, 10. Higuita, 11. H. Ibarra.
14. NM / Snow - 1. Redondo, 2. Giggs, 3. Ayala, 4. Ballack, 5. Fabregas, 6. Ljungberg, 7. Buffon, 8. Costacurta, 9. Higuain, 10. Alaba, 11. Arce
15. Aldo - 1. Rivaldo, 2. Desailly, 3. Stam, 4. Hagi, 5. Simeone, 6. Van Persie, 7. G. Neville, 8. Mascherano, 9. Basler, 10. Harte
16. Edgar Allan pillow - 1. Roberto Carlos, 2. Litmanen, 3. Pepe, 4. Arteta, 5. Suarez, 6. Gattuso, 7. Di Maria, 8. Cazorla, 9. P. Andersson, 10. Maicon,

@Aldo to pick.

You are bored aren't you? :lol:
 
Criteria used up so far :

Rivaldo - Ballon D'or
Desailly - Born in a different nation
Stam - Combo
Hagi - Played in 3 countries
Simeone - Combo
Van Persie - 90-99
G. neville - 10 years at a club
Mascherano - WC loser
Basler - Under 30 caps
Harte - outside fifa top 30
Friedel - Never won a league

Left to pick : Never played in Europe :rolleyes:
 
1. VivaJanuzaj & Crappy - 1. Messi, 2. Sammer, 3. Lahm, 4. Zambrotta, 5. Etoo, 6. Cocu, 7. F. de Boer, 8. Hyypia, 9. Kanchelskis, 10. Valdes, 11. Modric,
2. The Red Viper -1. Ronaldinho, 2. Henry, 3. Cafu, 4. Kaka, 5. Hierro, 6. Popescu, 7. Effenberg, 8. Hamann, 9. Mata, 10. Naybet, 11. Ceni,
3. Annahnomoss - 1. Ronaldo 9, 2. Thuram, 3. Cannavaro, 4. Ribery, 5. Lizarazu, 6. Pirlo, 7. Essien, 8. Petit, 9. Hazard, 10. Mihajlovic, 11. Weidenfeller
4. Cutch - 1. Maldini, 2. Savicevic, 3. Zanetti, 4. Kohler, 5. De Rossi, 6. Benarrivo, 7. Camoranesi, 8. Lehmann, 9. Djorkaeff, 10. Dino Baggio, 11. Hong Myung Bo
5. NoPace - 1. Ronaldo 7, 2. R. Baggio, 3. Senna, 4. Schweinsteiger, 5. Thomas Hassler, 6. Rooney, 7. Aldair, 8. T. Silva, 9. Cech, 10. Juanfran, 11. Carboni
6. Stobzilla / KM - 1. Zidane, 2. Davids, 3. Robben, 4. Irwin, 5. Signori, 6. Ferrara, 7. Van Der Sar, 8. Veron, 9. Pallister, 10. Aurier, 11. Thiago Alcantara
7. FromTheBench/Theon - 1. Romário, 2. Makélélé, 3. Gerrard, 4. Totti, 5. Blanc, 6. Sagnol, 7. Samuel, 8. Cantona, 9. Panucci, 10. Filipe Luis, 11. Jose Luis Chilavert
8. EDogen - 1.Keane, 2. Scholes, 3. Weah, 4. Evra, 5. Beckham, 6. Bale, 7. Gallas, 8. Raul, 9. Petrescu, 10. Carvalho, 11. Toldo
9. BigDunc9 - 1. Xavi, 2. Iniesta, 3. Shevchenko, 4. Albertini, 5. F. Couto, 6. Claudio Lopez, 7. Baines, 8. Reus, 9. R. Jones, 10. Benatia, 11. Gilberto Silva
10. rpitroda - 1. Nedved, 2. Seedorf, 3. Deco, 4. Ferdinand, 5. Luis Enrique, 6. Guardiola, 7. Zabaleta, 8. Kluivert, 9. Overmars, 10. Gamarra, 11. Clichy
11. BorisDeLeFora - 1. Nesta, 2. Vieira, 3. Le Tissier, 4. Lucio, 5. Lampard, 6. Villa, 7. Ginola, 8. van Bronckhorst, 9. Emerson, 10. Makaay, 11. Kelly
12. Chesterlestreet - 1. Stoichkov, 2. Mendieta, 3. Des Walker, 4. Prosinečki, 5. Ibrahimovic, 6. Kahn, 7. Bergkamp, 8. Adams, 9. Pessotto, 10. Van Bommel, 11. Reiziger
13. Paceme - 1. Figo, 2. Rui Costa, 3. Batistuta, 4. Vidic, 5. Del Piero, 6. Cambiasso, 7. Yaya Toure, 8. Abidal, 9. Koscielny, 10. Higuita, 11. H. Ibarra.
14. NM / Snow - 1. Redondo, 2. Giggs, 3. Ayala, 4. Ballack, 5. Fabregas, 6. Ljungberg, 7. Buffon, 8. Costacurta, 9. Higuain, 10. Alaba, 11. Arce
15. Aldo - 1. Rivaldo, 2. Desailly, 3. Stam, 4. Hagi, 5. Simeone, 6. Van Persie, 7. G. Neville, 8. Mascherano, 9. Basler, 10. Harte 11. Brad Freidel
16. Edgar Allan pillow - 1. Roberto Carlos, 2. Litmanen, 3. Pepe, 4. Arteta, 5. Suarez, 6. Gattuso, 7. Di Maria, 8. Cazorla, 9. P. Andersson, 10. Maicon, 11. Daniel Agger, 12. Lee Woon-jae


Agger - Won Danish Superliga and has 2 trophy less seasons with Luis Suarez at Liverpool
Lee Woon-jae - South Korean keeper to never play in Europe.

@Aldo
 
I'm going to bed after a long day. I don't think it's fair that my turn starts at 3AM. I'd rather you take your time and research and we'll continue this tomorrow. That way NM and I will have had talked and made our choice.
 
Criteria used up so far :

Rivaldo - Ballon D'or
Desailly - Born in a different nation
Stam - Combo
Hagi - Played in 3 countries
Simeone - Combo
Van Persie - 90-99
G. neville - 10 years at a club
Mascherano - WC loser
Basler - Under 30 caps
Harte - outside fifa top 30
Friedel - Never won a league

Left to pick : Never played in Europe :rolleyes:

Why on earth didn't you use that for the keeper? There's at least 5 at Friedel's level or better and it's not like there's great outfield players to every upgrade on it. Non-league winner is much better.
 
Looks like this is our team to be:

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Pure counter attacking football.
When defending: Defense sits deep to sulk pressure and move on fast counters, Sammer as the Libero and him with de Boer using distribution to send balls forward to Messi and Eto'o to counter attack. Cocu LCM to cover for Zamrotta.
When attacking: Messi on the free role, Lahm and Zambrotta creating the width, Modric as the forward CM, Sammer as the deep playmaker.

That's the basic version :D

edit: made a Bayern cover to cheaply win @Balu 's vote. :lol:
Any comments?..
 
Team Aldo aka Cannon Fodder

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Looks pretty solid as always, I'm a little worried about lack of creativity from deep at your team and not loving that Mascharno-Simeone combo, but it's not like you lack it upfront with Hagi and Rivaldo. I think it's solid all round. Hopefully Rivaldo won't be a cnut about playing a bit leftish
 
Sorry mate. Hectic day at work. We pick Francisco Arce. Multiple league and Copa Libertadores winner in S-America. Part of a very good Paraguayan back 4. Never played in Europe.
There's a sound pick at this stage.
 
Any comments?..
I'm still in German nationalteam muppet mode, so you should have used that kit and not a Bayern one to win my vote ;) . Other than that I'm not so sure it's as much a counterattacking set-up as you want it to be. So many quality playmakers in the team, why not allow them to control the game? You have a goalkeeper who's good on the ball, an outstanding fullback who loves to influence the game with the ball, a brilliant passer in defense, a libero who excelled in both phases of the game, Modric in midfield and Messi in attack. Let them play with the ball instead of soaking up pressure all the time. I wouldn't see de Boer as a defender suited to defending all the time and you don't have a midfield destroyer who limits your team to a one-dimensional approach.
 
I'm still in German nationalteam muppet mode, so you should have used that kit and not a Bayern one to win my vote ;) . Other than that I'm not so sure it's as much a counterattacking set-up as you want it to be. So many quality playmakers in the team, why not allow them to control the game? You have a goalkeeper who's good on the ball, an outstanding fullback who loves to influence the game with the ball, a brilliant passer in defense, a libero who excelled in both phases of the game, Modric in midfield and Messi in attack. Let them play with the ball instead of soaking up pressure all the time. I wouldn't see de Boer as a defender suited to defending all the time and you don't have a midfield destroyer who limits your team to a one-dimensional approach.
:D I'm actually too in that mode, did a German one than felt it was weird seeing Messi and Eto'o there so changed to Bayern.

As for the team, yeah I see your point, it turned out to be two ways. I just think people will see Messi on the right in a team who plays possession football and will right away start to think of Argentina in this WC and they were rubbish. Worst finalists ever imo.
I'll probably see it and change it depends on my opponent, but yeah I can definitely play possession football. Thanks mate
 
There's a middle ground between counterattacking and possession football though. There was a time before Mourinho vs Guardiola defined an era of extreme tactics and it was way more entertaining than what we see today in most of the big team clashes.
 
There's a middle ground between counterattacking and possession football though. There was a time before Mourinho vs Guardiola defined an era of extreme tactics and it was way more entertaining than what we see today in most of the big team clashes.
Yeah I definitely agree. I'm pleased to have a team that can go both ways depending how the match goes on, but I might one to use on of the ways solely if I come against a team that will be harmed by it