He never yet...If a genocide will benefit him, have 0 doubts he would do it and spicer would be his mouth piece without any problem. But this are just hypothesis and Biden and his team is reality
The Biden Presidency
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I don't doubt that. But he said all press secretaries... have all us presidents openly supported genocide? They're all criminals no doubt, but biden and this gang were really something else.
It's very lazy. I prefer a President who doesn't hurt its own people and tears down our democracy and that of a lot of the rest of the world with it making it easier for morons like Netanyahu and Hamas to do what they want. Are you conveniently forgetting the combined 20+ years of conflicts with mass casualties that happened since WWII and before Biden ever took office (Intifadas etc)? I'm not saying Biden wasn't a weak dick on this but he was hardly the first who cowtowed to Israeli interests especially. Netanyahu should have never been back in office to begin with but thats a failure of the Israeli system as is Trump returning ours.
You can prefer whatever you want, I hate trump as much as you so I won't defend anything he's done. I just pointed out this specific lady was a propagandist for genocide, so claiming she was an inspiration for little girls is quite something.
Funny thing Biden had been in high politics since the 70s and a voice and part of these conflicts. Supported the invasion of Grenada by Reagan and installing puppets, He voted in favour of bombing Lybia in the 80s. Supported the invasion of panama in the 80s installing puppets. He voted in favour or Iraq war. Lets not forget with all this with Reagan and W Bush as republicans. Obviously supported bombings in Serbia in the 90s having a democrat in the WH. The same with Syria bombings with Obama and any other Obama (peace nobel price l.o.l.) conflicts. He was a mouthpiece for Israel colonization since the beginning of his political career
He destroyed democracies anywhere. Not the US one because it was in his interest and He had been a hawkish murderous piece of shit for the last 5 decades
Criminals and cowards.
Agreed, although I'm not surprised if it's the same set of colleagues that watched Israel specifically target and blow up every journalist it could find over the last 18 months without a word of protest.
Yes, that is why is sad and not being outraged, because I understand when your job is on the line and your livelihood depends on it. I would maybe do the same.
Unfortunately we are all pawns and we do what we can in our life
his legacy is war crimes now
kinda like Blair's legacy but worse because he had the power to end the war
I hope to see a world that holds these people to account some day
kinda like Blair's legacy but worse because he had the power to end the war
I hope to see a world that holds these people to account some day
Won't be remembered fondly.
she will not be remembered at all
Yes they will be sorely missed.
Oh I meant Biden, but yeah she neither.
Always remember these are the same thing:
Always remember these are the same thing:
Totally unique. Paramilitary/ guerilla warfare historically has never involved embedding in the local population of course. Also had nothing to do with Israel refusing to allow international journalists in of course.
I’ve grown sick of the word democracy over this war. So many western politicians have hidden behind this word when it comes to Israel. Thankfully democracies have never committed atrocities or covered it up afterwards. People should feel grateful to be killed by democratic bombs really.
Openly admitting on national tv that he knew all long Israel were targeting civilians.
no comment needed for this one
(I try to not make knee jerk judgements as we know how things can change as new information comes to light and opinions change. As an example; look how Carter was viewed at the end of his presidency and look at his legacy now.)
History may judge Biden differently but right now it's difficult to see him being viewed as a good president. My daughter was asking me recently about this and I struggled to find the positives.
History may judge Biden differently but right now it's difficult to see him being viewed as a good president. My daughter was asking me recently about this and I struggled to find the positives.
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W Bush was judged like a good president and the voice of reason during Trumps first president. Sure, comparisons made that happened, but I was surprised how everything he did was ignored only 15 years after. I have 0 doubts that US politics will whitewash any US president to put the institution in a good light like with Carter, a piece of shit like any other US president that before I read what he did in some instances I thought he was a decent person (and I am sure this will irk many here)
Carter called out Israeli Apartheid. In a book no less. Biden helped Israel commit genocide.
Mini point for him. I will not start what I read he did in other cases. will be off topic. You can read some in the Carter thread. And nothing that he did after his presidency will compensate what he did under his tenure.
This conversation surely never took place. Not as Biden frames it. Bibi knows the US bombs people all the time, across various regions. He wouldn't go back to world war 2 which is convenient for Biden but not what was likely said.
He also did things that were terrible for Palestinians so it is what it is (one was during his presidency, the other after).
I wouldn’t be so sure, it’s been a major point that Israelis have been leaning on since October 2023. For example see this from Martin Kramer (who although a critic of Netanyahu in recent years is certainly still listened to in Israeli policy-making circles) that very month - The Nazi Case for Hamas
I'll take your word for it tbf.
A company man to the very end.
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I think Berns is full of it
Yep. There’s some lefty rhetoric but in the end he is no different to the standard democrat.
The fact that he consistently and loudly calls out the actual problems makes him very different to the standard Democrat.
This useless git was one of the worst cabinet picks of the administration. The way he slow rolled the Justice Department going after Trump will be his defining legacy.
This is pretty weird given how Sanders, were he even a democrat, would be on the far left of the Democratic party spectrum. Not to say he is far left, because the Democrat Party in all but American Overton windows are a pretty center right party, but he's not a "standard democrat."
This is the problem with left wingers nowadays, anyone who is not an ideological purist (like Bernie) despite being pretty decently left wing is labelled as "Other".
It's holding back the left from actually taking power, when nobody is deemed good enough.
He's the best one the Dems have. I think he sees his legacy (domestic) with Biden's domestic legacy. He gave all his political capital at the time for that altered platform. But cannot be consistent re Gaza and wealth inequality which latter he has basically made a career talking about.
Domestically his record is very strong isn't it? As far as US presidents go...
Just seems to be foreign policy, inflation & public speaking that have ruined his reputation. The first one is debatable (reserving my judgement on Ukraine), inflation should probably be reported as a positive if anything (impossible with state of media control of course). The speech/age thing granted and should never have initially run for a 2nd term, this is a big one, the right man for the job post-Trump first term perhaps but always should have been a 1-term thing.
Do you reckon? Democrats don't typically talk about the need for voter reform, ending corporate greed, removing corporate power from politics. He's never changed his tune.
Those positions mean he'll never get any real power in that system, of course. Which is why the system is so fecked.
In my view a standard democrat projects a left leaning image to win votes, whilst taking corporate bribes and shafting the American people behind their backs. That's a democrat.