The Biden Presidency

Biden is a cnut and this will be known as his legacy. His Presidency will always been associated with what's happened first in Gaza and The West Bank and then expanding to other countries. I'm not surprised at all, just fecking saddened and angrier even more than I already was.
Not for americans, they whitewash all their presidents.

You have people on this forum saying he was a great president, and the genocide is happening as they type.
 
Not for americans, they whitewash all their presidents.

You have people on this forum saying he was a great president, and the genocide is happening as they type.
Jimmy Carter seemed the second coming of jesus christ when he died
 
Impossible to express my feelings about this man. If this deal holds and the full death toll in Gaza is known, he could surpass W as the worst president of my lifetime.
Have more hatred for him than Bibi and the gang, who were (Roy Keane style) just doing their jobs.

Hope he has a few more family tragedies before a prolonged battle with cancer, and is alive to see his presidency remembered as utter trash :)
 
Thank goodness for the ceasefire. I wonder how Biden’s presidency will be remembered in the future. Imo, it’ll only be for enabling genocide and allowing a disaster of a person to proceed him.

Which is ironic considering he probably went for a second term to cement his name in the history books.
 
What about the people in here who insisted Biden's handling of Gaza would have practically no impact at all on the election? Apparently it's the economy, stupid.
Are you American, dumbo? Yeah, that's right, what makes you think you now better than them?

Yeah, wasn't said with as much rudeness, but that is generally how it was dismissed. Even after the election.
 
What about the people in here who insisted Biden's handling of Gaza would have practically no impact at all on the election? Apparently it's the economy, stupid.

What about all the posters on here who said Trump would be worse on gaza? Arab Americans who voted for Trump were objectively correct.
 
Not that matters but have to imagine the “progressive” movement is over. Both Bernie and AOC not only backed Harris but actively wanted Biden to run in the election.
 
What about all the posters on here who said Trump would be worse on gaza? Arab Americans who voted for Trump were objectively correct.
We should never stop calling them out for their idiocy.
 


What about the people in here who insisted Biden's handling of Gaza would have practically no impact at all on the election? Apparently it's the economy, stupid.

The Dropsite article says that 19 million people voted for Biden but not Harris. I'm not sure where they're getting that number from; Biden got 81 million votes in 2020 and Harris got 75 million in 2024, which is a difference of 6 million. To make up that difference she'd need 13 million votes from non-2020 voters or Trump 2020 voters which seems hard to believe.

Let's assume that the number of Biden/not-Harris voters is the difference between the two, 6 million. 29% of that is a little under 2 million votes. There were 154m votes in 2024 so it's a little over 1% of the total vote. If we use the higher number of 19 million then it's 3.5% of the total vote.

So if the poll is broadly accurate, then the people who said almost no one would care about Gaza were partly right: only a small group of people cared enough about the issue to sway their vote. But elections are won and lost by small margins, so small groups of people can have an impact.
 
Anyone else thinking Trump and his mate Netenyahu had this all planned? Ceasefire and peace just at the same time he takes office? Timing seems too suspect to me, especially given the actual bones of the agreement and how many have been rejected before.
 
Anyone else thinking Trump and his mate Netenyahu had this all planned? Ceasefire and peace just at the same time he takes office? Timing seems too suspect to me, especially given the actual bones of the agreement and how many have been rejected before.
Not sure. If that is the case then you’d imagine Netanyahu has received something very significant in return, such as a free hand to annex Area C in the West Bank and/or Saudi normalization. Because the far-right in Israel are absolutely furious at this proposed deal right now, and it could very well collapse the coalition, leaving Netanyahu exposed. Exactly what he’s been trying to avoid by dragging the war on this long.
 
Trump is not 'mates' with Netanyahu since he doesn't think he's loyal:
I liked Bibi. I still like Bibi. But I also like loyalty. The first person to congratulate Biden was Bibi. And not only did he congratulate him, he did it on tape. He was very early — like, earlier than most. I haven’t spoken to him since. F**k him.
And this from a few weeks ago:
Donald Trump has shared inflammatory video content calling Benjamin Netanyahu a “deep, dark son of a bitch” just weeks after the Israeli leader claimed the two had a “very friendly, warm” discussion about hostage negotiations and Syria policy.
One of the cattiest men on the planet.
 
The Biden people and extended out here talking like we can get back to normal, like we didn't see the maimed and mutilated children, the IDF in uniform committing sexual violence and humiliation, the missing limbs, the missing heads of children, the schools bombed, the hospitals bombed, the teachers murdered, the doctors murdered, the journalists murdered, the aid workers murdered, the people starving and the constantly vandalised aid, and the death, the endless death.

It's like visiting Auschwitz-Birkenau and on the way out being accosted by a Holocaust denier. Motherfecker I saw it all, forever.
 
just waiting for western journalists to be given access to Gaza. then the full horror of what was done will be on show, and the hasbara cant blame it on Khamas journalists distorting facts.
or its all brushed under the carpet.
 
Not sure. If that is the case then you’d imagine Netanyahu has received something very significant in return, such as a free hand to annex Area C in the West Bank and/or Saudi normalization. Because the far-right in Israel are absolutely furious at this proposed deal right now, and it could very well collapse the coalition, leaving Netanyahu exposed. Exactly what he’s been trying to avoid by dragging the war on this long.

You're right, and I know Trump has made comments numerous times but he often contradicts himself and Netenyahu isn't exactly known for keeping his word and will always exploit any circumstances possible.

There's just something undeniably fishy about all this given the timing. Especially when you think of the $100 Million donated to him by Miriam Adleson and you consider the still ongoing case against him for numerous corruption charges, I don't think it's unreasonable to ponder him making some kind of deal for himself. I admit it's definite conspiracy theory territory and definitely unlikely but I wouldnt put anything past him or Trump.
 
The Dropsite article says that 19 million people voted for Biden but not Harris. I'm not sure where they're getting that number from; Biden got 81 million votes in 2020 and Harris got 75 million in 2024, which is a difference of 6 million. To make up that difference she'd need 13 million votes from non-2020 voters or Trump 2020 voters which seems hard to believe.

Let's assume that the number of Biden/not-Harris voters is the difference between the two, 6 million. 29% of that is a little under 2 million votes. There were 154m votes in 2024 so it's a little over 1% of the total vote. If we use the higher number of 19 million then it's 3.5% of the total vote.

So if the poll is broadly accurate, then the people who said almost no one would care about Gaza were partly right: only a small group of people cared enough about the issue to sway their vote. But elections are won and lost by small margins, so small groups of people can have an impact.

I understand what you're doing, but this is flawed logic. If you're accepting the premise of the poll at all, which you seem to be considering you're concluding something based on it, then you also have to accept the numbers in the poll. You can't just go "I like the idea, but I am going to cut their result by two-thirds".

Your conclusion seems to be based partly on the actual poll, so you don't really need that part of your post.