The Biden Presidency

I'm sure Mika Brezhinski will want to comment this morning on her questions at the beginning of her interview with Biden.

 
Raoul said:
So Vlad used the me too movement to advance his latest attempt to manipulate US elections.

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IIRC there were some on here who were adamant about Reade being credible. Who knew she was potentially a plant by the Russians?
 
calodo2003 said:
IIRC there were some on here who were adamant about Reade being credible. Who knew she was potentially a plant by the Russians?
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Yeah, just shows how easily people get swept away by these herd behavior social media campaigns. The Me Too movement was certainly credible, but the ravenous feeding frenzy to cram every name that came up in the media into it wasn't without its perils. It seems the Russians saw this and managed to exploit it. Given how narrow Biden's victory was in the electoral college, it nearly worked.
 
So looks like Biden has successfully avoided the catastrophic debt default the GOP-majority House has been gleefully threatening. He's got plenty of faults but he's good at politics and has navigated through many potential landmines.
 
bosskeano said:
haha...Nazi? how do u figure?
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Maybe not a Nazi, but his use of governmental powers to target opponents (removing DA, Disney, college school boards, etc.) should be frightening to anyone, no matter your political leanings. Add onto that the meddling in education, voter laws, blatantly changing laws that affect him personally (travel logs, prohibition on running for President while gov., etc), and a multitude of other things and you have a candidate who is a danger to the country.
 
bosskeano said:
haha...Nazi? how do u figure?
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I dunno, the banning of books and flags are a pretty good start.

@WI_Red summed it up quite nicely too.

To add to that, I'd be seriously worried how he would deal with global politics given his previous record and I think he would probably hurt relations with many of the US's foreign allies, possibly worse than Trump did who was just mainly ignored and placated. DeSantis could cause real trouble, especially given the fact he clearly has a short temper and doesn't like being cornered or answering things he doesn't want to admit to or discuss.
 
Raoul said:
I think many did at the time, because they didn't want to rock the boat on the credibility of the Me Too movement, which was peaking in popularity at the time.
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You may be right, but remember Eboue going above and beyond calling Biden a rapist and mocking anyone who expressed doubt abt not taking the victim seriously. I could be wrong.
 
There is no way Biden can handle another 4 years. I doubt he can handle another 4 months to be honest. He's clearly unwell, he's constantly slurring or getting confused or just making silly mistakes, he's also falling over or losing his balance a lot. He has to be guided round most of the time.

It's certainly not what you would want from someone leading the most powerful country on earth. The stress of that job is insane in itself, especially if taken seriously like Biden does. Trump avoided most of his duties and just played golf or held rallies to promote himself.

Look at how it aged Obama after 8 years. It's clear Biden isn't up to it anymore, and the more falls he takes the more Republicans are going to push for the 25th amendment which they would love as then they would walk the next election.

Quick afterthought here. Trump forced to leave the race over legal issues from classified documents or his election fixing issues. Biden gets sick or removed, Harris steps up.... Ron wins 2024...
 
While I desperately wish the Dems had found ANY decent other candidate, I do think Biden's actual work is being heavily diminshed by pretty much everyone.

He's gotten bills passed, just got the new bi-annual debt ceiling fiasco done with minimal impact to the agenda and keeps trucking on.
 
Beachryan said:
While I desperately wish the Dems had found ANY decent other candidate, I do think Biden's actual work is being heavily diminshed by pretty much everyone.

He's gotten bills passed, just got the new bi-annual debt ceiling fiasco done with minimal impact to the agenda and keeps trucking on.
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He's handled himself brilliantly under difficult circumstances. He's been a great president in truth.
 
Beachryan said:
While I desperately wish the Dems had found ANY decent other candidate, I do think Biden's actual work is being heavily diminshed by pretty much everyone.

He's gotten bills passed, just got the new bi-annual debt ceiling fiasco done with minimal impact to the agenda and keeps trucking on.
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No, I don't think that's true tbh. It's just people are thinking back to the chaos of Trump. Biden has done a lot of good, but he's also made some big mistakes and pissed off the letter leaning Dems. He's more right centre than he is left, that's for sure.

Jev said:
He's handled himself brilliantly under difficult circumstances. He's been a great president in truth.
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I wouldn't go that far. He's done ok. He's done as expected to be fair. He's handled some things amazingly and others not so well. As I said before, he's centre right more than he is left and that's been evident throughout his Presidency. However, he's still by far the best candidate for 2024 and the issue is still there.... Is he fit enough for another 5 years?

I don't think he is. Sadly.
 
I was quite impressed by Biden and how he performed over here in Ireland a few weeks ago. But it’s all very concerning.
 
Jev said:
He's handled himself brilliantly under difficult circumstances. He's been a great president in truth.
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He had the benefit of Dem control of Congress for two of those years. In fairness to him, he seems to have worked fairly amicably with McCarthy since the new R Congress took over, which may have helped to avert the debt default.
 
Biden has been a decent president, all things considered. In this polarization political climate, it is hard to do more.

He is also very old and Dems should have tried to convince him to step down for the next election.
 
Revan said:
Biden has been a decent president, all things considered. In this polarization political climate, it is hard to do more.
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Yet the right continue to further their agenda... Abortion, supreme court, no gun reform. Heck, Biden even opened up drilling on Alaska's North Slope for them.
 
langster said:
Yet the right continue to further their agenda... Abortion, supreme court, no gun reform. Heck, Biden even opened up drilling on Alaska's North Slope for them.
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These aren't a result of Biden's term though. The SCOTUS numbers and subsequent Abortion ruling was set into motion during Trump's term.
 
langster said:
Yet the right continue to further their agenda... Abortion, supreme court, no gun reform. Heck, Biden even opened up drilling on Alaska's North Slope for them.
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Not sure you understand how US government works if you're blaming any of the first three on Biden.
 
langster said:
I dunno, the banning of books and flags are a pretty good start.
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sorry but banning of books that talk about gender transformation in elementary and middle school...that doesn't belong and should be removed

ffs...they are kids, just let them be kids without trying to alter or warp their brains
 
So funny that when someone points out obvious failures of the left or obvious issues with right wingers, it's because they don't understand the system. Yeah, no way right wingers are proto-fascists and democrats are tootless pussies.
 
bosskeano said:
can't agree given gas prices, inflation rates and food costs
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I’ll give you ‘partially’ for inflation, but the other two are ‘nominally’ at most.

The office of the presidency is often erroneously called to blame on issues the occupant has little control over, regardless their political stripe.
 
Revan said:
Biden has been a decent president, all things considered. In this polarization political climate, it is hard to do more.

He is also very old and Dems should have tried to convince him to step down for the next election.
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The first thing that came across my mind when Biden was running for 2020 was exactly that he would eventually leave the stage for someone else in 2024. I guess that everything changed since Trump is still very much a factor anyhow in this political landscape, but the original plan was probably something else in other and more normal circumstances.

I don't think the US are ready for another FDR-style ending, especially when the current VP is definitely no Harry Truman to pick up the torch.
 
calodo2003 said:
I’ll give you ‘partially’ for inflation, but the other two are ‘nominally’ at most.

The office of the presidency is often erroneously called to blame on issues the occupant has little control over, regardless their political stripe.
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i get there could be inflation but not to the point where gas prices have doubled, housing loan rates are almost double and grocery prices have jumped significantly as well. I don't think normal inflation would have had such a traumatic effect on the economy as we've seen in the past 12-15 months
 
langster said:
No, I don't think that's true tbh. It's just people are thinking back to the chaos of Trump. Biden has done a lot of good, but he's also made some big mistakes and pissed off the letter leaning Dems. He's more right centre than he is left, that's for sure.



I wouldn't go that far. He's done ok. He's done as expected to be fair. He's handled some things amazingly and others not so well. As I said before, he's centre right more than he is left and that's been evident throughout his Presidency. However, he's still by far the best candidate for 2024 and the issue is still there.... Is he fit enough for another 5 years?

I don't think he is. Sadly.
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Realistically he doesn't have to be. He just has to be fit enough through Nov. 2024. Then they can just prop him up Weekend at Bernie's style like with Feinstein and Grassley.
 
bosskeano said:
i get there could be inflation but not to the point where gas prices have doubled, housing loan rates are almost double and grocery prices have jumped significantly as well. I don't think normal inflation would have had such a traumatic effect on the economy as we've seen in the past 12-15 months
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Well, we did undergo the most severe economic crisis since the Great Recession which singlehandedly destroyed supply chains that directly contributed to higher food costs. Toss in astronomical fertilizer pricing & delays out of a war zone, food stuffs were always going to be hit hard. Then there was fun issues like avian flu skyrocketing eggs & chicken pricing.

Gas / oil prices are almost completely divorced from what a president does, the pricing mechanisms exist primarily outside the reach of the incumbent.

You do realize inflation peaked a few months back & is on a slow decline, yes?
 
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