By the way, if you're looking for someone to give your pick to, it's not a bad idea to send me or Chester (I'd imagine) a PM too, or any other neutral who is following the draft for that matter
The Americas Draft
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Mounchester is in HK, right? Night time there.
We should have put him and jayvin together!
We should have put him and jayvin together!
Should go all out and interactive for one of these drafts , dedicated Skype call where you get 2/3 hours to pick everyone. Would be funny to see some people's reactions when their next player got picked by the person before them
2 hours? More like 2 minutes. With dramatic sound effectsShould go all out and interactive for one of these drafts , dedicated Skype call where you get 2/3 hours to pick everyone. Would be funny to see some people's reactions when their next player got picked by the person before them
(Edit. Oh, you meant 2 hours for the whole team?)
Aye , so you'd have to have several options ready to go, call it " the pressure draft "
Yea we should find like a quick chat board and have a quick fire draft with 2 minutes per pick.
Yep - good point.
Sure we could just do it on here with 5 minutes per pick or something.
Thanks for allowing my pick, Pnutz' phone almost did a de Gea fax job on me 
Reposting the list for the next page:
Skizzo/Pat 1. Ronaldo 2. L. Junior 3. Joya 4. Bochini 5. D. Pereyra
Enigma/Joga 1. Garrincha 2. Zanetti 3. Godin 4. Zito 5. Ruben Sosa
oneniltothearsenal 1. Zico 2. D. Da Guia 3. Socrates 4. Leonel Sánchez 5. Eyzaguirre
Tuppet 1. Romario 2. Monti 3. V. Andrade 4. Perfumo 5. Hector Scarone
Aldo 1. Passarella 2. R. Carlos 3. Francescoli 4. Ruggeri 5. Mascherano
EAP/Sjor 1. D. Santos 2. O. Varela 3. Neymar 4. I. Cordoba 5. P. Rocha
Physio 1. Chumpitaz 2. Cubillas 3. Valderrama 4. Julinho 5. G. Delgado
Gio 1. Ronaldinho 2. Nasazzi 3. Erico 4. Zizinho 5. Pedernera
Maz/Mar/R 1. Didi 2. Hugo Sanchez 3. Marzolini 4. Néstor Gonçalves 5. C. Gamarra
MounchesterUtd 1. Chilavert 2. Rivelino 3. Vidal 4. Kaka 5. W. Samuel
DavidG 1. Cafu 2. Rivaldo 3. T. Silva 4. Aldair 5. Clodoaldo 6. Julio Cesar Romero
Raees 1. P.R. Falcao 2. Jairzinho 3. J.M. Moreno 4. P. Montero 5. R. Ayala 6. A.Recoba
Boris 1. Schiaffino 2. J.L. Andrade 3. Gerson 4. Spencer 5. J. Melendez 6. N. Rossi
Mciahel Goodman 1. C. Alberto 2. G. Batistuta 3. Lucio 4. Dunga 5. O. Ardilles 6. Riquelme
Jayvin 1. Redondo 2. L. Suarez 3. Sivori 4. Cueto 5. R. Marquez 6. Maicon
P-Nut/Downcast 1. N. Santos 2. Santamaría 3. D. Alves 4. Alexis Sánchez 5. Cerezo 6. Luis Pereira
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Skizzo/Pat 1. Ronaldo 2. L. Junior 3. Joya 4. Bochini 5. D. Pereyra
Enigma/Joga 1. Garrincha 2. Zanetti 3. Godin 4. Zito 5. Ruben Sosa
oneniltothearsenal 1. Zico 2. D. Da Guia 3. Socrates 4. Leonel Sánchez 5. Eyzaguirre
Tuppet 1. Romario 2. Monti 3. V. Andrade 4. Perfumo 5. Hector Scarone
Aldo 1. Passarella 2. R. Carlos 3. Francescoli 4. Ruggeri 5. Mascherano
EAP/Sjor 1. D. Santos 2. O. Varela 3. Neymar 4. I. Cordoba 5. P. Rocha
Physio 1. Chumpitaz 2. Cubillas 3. Valderrama 4. Julinho 5. G. Delgado
Gio 1. Ronaldinho 2. Nasazzi 3. Erico 4. Zizinho 5. Pedernera
Maz/Mar/R 1. Didi 2. Hugo Sanchez 3. Marzolini 4. Néstor Gonçalves 5. C. Gamarra
MounchesterUtd 1. Chilavert 2. Rivelino 3. Vidal 4. Kaka 5. W. Samuel
DavidG 1. Cafu 2. Rivaldo 3. T. Silva 4. Aldair 5. Clodoaldo 6. Julio Cesar Romero
Raees 1. P.R. Falcao 2. Jairzinho 3. J.M. Moreno 4. P. Montero 5. R. Ayala 6. A.Recoba
Boris 1. Schiaffino 2. J.L. Andrade 3. Gerson 4. Spencer 5. J. Melendez 6. N. Rossi
Mciahel Goodman 1. C. Alberto 2. G. Batistuta 3. Lucio 4. Dunga 5. O. Ardilles 6. Riquelme
Jayvin 1. Redondo 2. L. Suarez 3. Sivori 4. Cueto 5. R. Marquez 6. Maicon
P-Nut/Downcast 1. N. Santos 2. Santamaría 3. D. Alves 4. Alexis Sánchez 5. Cerezo 6. Luis Pereira
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There's one player I can't quite believe hasn't been picked yet
Inb4 Mounch picks him...
Thank you for your suggestion.
It could be great if you could send your pick to harms & Chester if you have to move.
The same for the following posters: Gio & Physio.
That's why I have RedTiger and Marty
But honestly, I have some free time during work now, so I have some time to be more involved and make some picks as long as others make them in time.
Yes. Not to say several.
However, there are several factors in play, I suspect.
As far as one player in particular goes, I simply don't think he's all that highly rated - it's not the first time he's been overlooked (relatively speaking) in these drafts.
There's another who is more surprising, though - one who clearly is rated highly enough (arguably a bit overrated, even).
I need an assistant. Late in the game, I know, but am now recruiting. Who is there to pick from?
Yeah, there are still some greats picks to make but - don't worry - they will disappear by the end of the round 6!
Pretty sure someone will offer to help you
Is @Invictus still available? If he is, I'm sure that he'd be happy to help you out.
I think he might be, but he generally seems to be very busy with other things. I've asked @RedTiger, but honestly, I'll take any help from anyone who has played one of these before.
I dont know enough about these drafts to know exactly who you mean but for me i can see 2-3 players that fit each of your comments. And your pool 2 requirement really makes things interesting because it really changes the dynamics and gives a little more weight to non Brazil and Argentinians which is great for variety imo
Certainly the fact we've got the pool 2 requirement is making this draft so much better. It would be quite boring without it as it adds a degree of tactic to the draft.
You may ask the guys who have declined the invitation to play this draft if you look at the first pages of this thread.
Question regarding Jose Leandro Andrade, I don't know a huge deal about him, but from what I've read he played right half, which is essentially half defensive mid and half right back, and was an extremely mobile and technically good player who could cover a lot of ground.
Thus, from those who may know him better, does he fit into an attacking right back position? All along I have seen him as the right side of a midfield diamond, but the option of slotting him in at full back would give me a lot of flexibility going forward. Would he be wasted at full back?
Thus, from those who may know him better, does he fit into an attacking right back position? All along I have seen him as the right side of a midfield diamond, but the option of slotting him in at full back would give me a lot of flexibility going forward. Would he be wasted at full back?
I'd say right wing-back or offensive right-back.
Central Midfielder is also fine
My 2 cents
Central Midfielder is also fine
My 2 cents
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Just search by his name and read earlier posts in this forum. Debated quite extensively before imo.
Imo, he is not a modern full back as he old full back was a hybrid between DM and FB. You can play him as a modern back 4 FB, but he'd apt to perform more like Breitner/Junior type i.e. cutting into midfield and making plays. I'd definitely stay away from playing him in a Cafu/Brehme type role i.e. touchline hugging, overlapping runs, providing crosses.
Given what I know of the 235 his best role would be a wide midfielder typically in a diamond. That said I'd have no problem with him as an offensive full-back/wing-back
This.
I don't think there's much / any footage of him crossing a ball , which given Alberto spencer being your CF might be hard to convince people it would work
Or anything else. He's a myth.
But yea I haven't read much about his crossing. Though he's talking about playing him as a fullback and could easily have a winger who's good at crossing in front of Andrade. Or from the other flank.
Maybe he is the Uruguayan version of Lahm
Thanks for the input, I was looking at him as potentially a right back behind a wide right winger, I'll do a bit more research but from what you have said it could work.
Mounchester has been off for over 12 hours now sure he'll be on soon enough.
Shouldn't be a problem whatsoever really. As a right back I consider him pretty astute defensively, a physical phenomenon so you can expect him to hold his own against pace or trickery, while sound contribution going forward. He is, after all, one of the most complete and versatile player in the draft so it only makes sense that his two-way game is recognised well. He will be one of the top options as an offensive/balanced RB in this draft, for sure.
I agree with Aldo.
It makes sense because he used to play behind a typical right-winger at the WC 1930.
No offence, but I disagree. What I've researched on him till now points to him as a offensively brilliant B2B. Play him in front of a pivot (diamond) and it's be class. I don't recall him descriptions of him being an astute defender. As a b2b he contributed defensively, but his offence is what sets him apart. Not a defensive monster or like that.
I think his modern equivalent would be Neeskens. And as I said before, If played as FB, he'd be more Junior/Breitner than Cafu/Brehme.
We really don't have enough footage or information to go into that much detail, to be honest. From the footage anto complied, his defending was fantastic. Tracked back players with his electric pace and put in some last ditch clean tackles to prevent goals. Moreover most of the time his awareness, intelligence and overall understanding of the situation is hailed quite highly. Those mental and physical aspects would be perfect for a modern day winger-turned-fullbacks, especially in this era. I don't think he made frequent runs forward, it was just that when he did it was superbly noted but his primary game was to distribute the ball from deep, simple pass and move and being back to defend quickly, with good effect.
Quite a lot of debate on him, really. His accolades and recognition by his peers in all phases of the game pretty much point to an absolute powerhouse in his position, which I consider him to be. With a winger in front of him, in a back four, he's as good a right back you'd find in this pool. Of course he'll be fantastic as a wide midfielder as well, particularly in a diamond, but that's not relevant here. The question is how well he'll function in the role that is being given to him, and the answer from me is absolutely no problem whatsoever.
Have you a link to Anto's footage of him? I don't remember seeing it
Found this while looking for it. An article by Raúl Barbero
France brought him to the limelight. The nickname "The Black Marvel" was coined after he entangled and captivated the gaul stands with his bewitching play. A polished technique, his feline movement across the pitch, a sense of positioning and timing which allowed him to be in the right place at the right time to avoid a goal, even when the ball had already beaten the keeper. He nullified his rival -whoever that was-; and played his way upfield with a perfect dribble; passed the ball to the centimetre; and defended "from head to toe".
A complete player. A few years ago, a group of reputable critics had a roundtable to determine Uruguay's Best Ever XI and he was undisputed as a right half-back, but also picked as centre-half, and was in with a shout for his latter days as a forward when his pace was gone but his ability on the ball wasn't.
His burst into the Parisian scene was followed by the triumphant campaigns in Amsterdam and Montevideo. In the seven years between 1923 and 1930 he defended the sky blue 43 times, losing only three games and in all the major finals not once did a rival goal originate on his side of the pitch
*Raúl Barbero was at the 1930 World Cup and edited the first World Cup magazine while still a wouldbe journalist. In 1935 he starts doing it professionally and goes on to chronicle every World Cup from 1950 to 1982, including the 1966 one as the commentator on the BBCs Spanish-language World Cup broadcast