It would soon become pretty clear....
That Sensible Football Forum
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It would soon become pretty clear....
In the current football forum 10 daft manc twats would wade in with "Alonso's shit", "50,000 posts on a Man Utd site..." and the like
You'd be able to have a long debate with Rubber Chef without him resorting to smilies
That's a point, no smilies on the decent forum...
So what? Ignore them, I tend not to reply to Rubbers latest ramblings, you should be able to manage it also.
The spastics should not be there in the first place.
It happens in different guises non stop, it's not possible to ignore all the time. It's stopping decent posters from posting about football on a football forum....
This isn't good
It hasn't been implemented except on a very limited basis.
The idea was to get more serious when the football started back.
But once we did, we were confronted with wild stuck-pig style bitching from everyone, including some of the established posters advocating fixing the problem on the one hand and undermining attempts to do so on the other.
There's been no end of threads of late which are basically you and the Chef arguing absurd points, neither of you getting anywhere and both coming across as cretins...
What's the point in that?
If you can't ignore it then you're contributing to the problem not helping it. I know from experience sometimes that is hard to do.
And how many decent users would we never get if they found out they had to basically go through 2 layers of promotions?
So how many 'muppets' can you name that should be banned? How many are we talking about here? It may be an idea to start a 'watchlist'.
What do you mean it hasn't been implemented? I used to give people 50 points for 12 hours. It worked fine.
The idea was to get more serious when the football started back at the start of the 2006/2007 season. It's all talk - go and read my final rants before I deleted myself - I suppose you have access to them.
You clearly haven't been in there, I wouldn't mind if thats all it was.
If its so simple why is it as bad as it is?
I don't always want to ignore pointing out spastic comments from idiots. This point has been raised several times, I'm not on about replacing one forum with another...
And again, go with the alternative suggestion of everyone being given access until they feck it up....solves the whole issue of "elitism", and whilst not my prefered option, a clear step forward that what's currently happening...
I'd like you to point them out, I haven't had a proper debate with the Chief since the summer
It requires attention, a lot of work, and ignoring a certain admin's universal human rights policy.
I had a friend called Omar who I referred to as O. That was possibly the laziest period of my life, I was enrolled at uni but not attending, and I'd wake up at 7pm when the campus bar opened so I could go drink. Fun days, but glad to have seen them out
Having recently had an insight into the infraction process recieving one myself, I think it's a bit of a farce. I didn't realise they went so quickly. And that you had to go some to tot them up. If someone is fecking the forum up, why do they need 5, 6 chances before they're turfed? I'm with GB, give say 1 warning, next time boot em
Given the infraction system seems set to stay though, would it not be beneficial to have a publically viewable area that shows who has been infracted how many times, and how long they will last? If people see justice being done (to put it far more grandly than it deserves), they are generally more satisfied, and perhaps are more willing to then continue to post themselves, knowing the cockend who's ruining the thread at the current time for them has at least been 'punished' before, and will be that bit closer to the dustbin this time around
You cannot debate with the Chief, you can only argue, aimlessly.
Does this mean that you preferred my direct slap in the face or whatever? At least you knew where you actually were at a particular time?
True.
I think we're a lot closer to agreeing than it may seem.
Correct, which is why I tend to ignore him unless to point out something that he's got factually wrong since he can't ignore that.
Who is how close to a banning is not the business of any other user, unless a mod feels that a public dressing down is also deserved.
The infraction system is designed to catch those who consistently annoy or disrupt without technically going quiiiite over the line.
The vast majority of the comments about it being a joke and a farce have come from people who have received one.
They also don't remember the 'bad old days' when you would simply be turfed, usually forever, suddenly and with little explanation sometimes.
Most people recognise it as a genuine attempt to take a step towards correcting the problems we seem to have.
The infraction system is designed to catch those who consistently annoy or disrupt without technically going quiiiite over the line.
The vast majority of the comments about it being a joke and a farce have come from people who have received one.
They also don't remember the 'bad old days' when you would simply be turfed, usually forever, suddenly and with little explanation sometimes.
Most people recognise it as a genuine attempt to take a step towards correcting the problems we seem to have.
Was there any need to use double spaced lines to make that point really?
The infraction system does not work and is highly open to abuse.
I haven't been called an English hooligan for months... what can I say though, I like the guy. If more people had views and argued them with the same kind of passion, there wouldn't be a problem, we'd have a cracking Caf. He's no one liner either (apart from when he's quoting everyone telling them he agrees), he'll put forward a reasoned, paragraph long case. It'll be absolute and complete unadulterated bullshit yes, but still, this place would be a damn poorer one without him. If he's whom those calling for an elite forum shape their fire, I'm against it
The more I think about this (the more I wonder what the feck I'm doing wasting time thinking about it), the more I think this elite forum idea is just a rank bad one. The mini Marxist in me is boiling up. I fear it'd just end up a matey clique, where if they say something it's witty and hillarious, if someone else says the same thing they're a wanker
Ask one of your admins about your experiences of that.
Whereas no-warning mass banning of "the cocks" isn't?
A PM can be used as a warning, so can a post in a thread. If you are then ignored, then it can start with a day out. If such behaviour continues, 5 days out, then a month, then gone.
Does this mean that you preferred my direct slap in the face or whatever? At least you knew where you actually were at a particular time?
I miss you as a mod more and more each passing day Weaste! I'm a silly young fool who didn't realise what he'd got til it'd gone. You sent me down to the newbies once, albeit for summat in the general, but thats the perfect system. They can re-earn their promotion. Better than being handed a nothingness infraction. I've got one to my name and it means bugger all. It won't even last til Christmas. A nice jolt is whats needed, not a wrist slap
Hairdryer posted a decent list of who to ban. Admins should've taken his advice and just banned the cnuts.
That's even more random and open to abuse than the infraction system, where it is totally transparent to the other mods and admins who has warned or infracted whom, and for what post exactly.
That is tons fairer than 'I sent him a PM because he was a cock, he told me I was a cock, so now he's banned', imho.
I love you Weastey, but we're not going to agree here.
So you would rather have been banned for a week?
Because that is likely what Weaste would have done.
I posted one and I think most did get a matchday forum ban to be fair!
I hope it would have happened without my input too
Weaste did it to me. I was in the newbies for a day. It was hell enough, lesson learnt. Not that I'd actually done anything to deserve it...
what about a public sticky with a list of the members that are on their last warning? infract again and they get banned?
maybe thats just a stupid idea, i was thinking out loud
maybe thats just a stupid idea, i was thinking out loud
Look at it this way Jason, Brad and I never got on, but he is still here. It's not the best example, but he is better than he used to be after my harsh treatment towards him. Many people think I did what I did on a personal level, but that was never the case. I only ever did what I thought to be best for this website at any particular time. If I was wrong, and I hold my hands up that at times I was wrong or slightly too heavy, then everyone can and probably has judged me on that, but I only did what I though best, including my own deletion. Admin and moderators are only humans at the end of the day, but towing the party line all of the time is not necessarily that productive. The admin team know what I feel about them (and I love them all), but.....
Weaste did it to me. I was in the newbies for a day. It was hell enough, lesson learnt. Not that I'd actually done anything to deserve it...
He'd have banned you the 'second' time, though.
Are you actually saying you'd prefer it?
You were pretty e-outraged at getting an infraction iirc.
You get blamed for a lot of things others did, which actually is quite funny I think.
You ended up the Caf's Sacrificial Lamb for what in the end was a series of nasty but in retrospect necessary tough decisions.
Brad, would you like to hear the story involving Jason and Liz with a whip?
Both on a similar mental level clearly. Like a couple of fecking androids.
Let's not go there, for risk of me pissing some of my colleagues off.
I am the only mod who was promoted, demoted, promoted again, made a scout, banned, IP blocked, unbanned, given special access rights, banned, unbanned, infracted, and then made a mod.
I was actually very un e-outraged, I didn't complain once, probably best you go read that thread again if you think otherwise.
I haven't been banned a second time, I'm still here. So he wouldn't have
You did say exactly that.
Please try to keep up with your own posts a little better.
Erm, no I didn't, you've just randomly decided that I did, somehow
It's not relevant in anycase. I'm not really sure what you're getting at
You think it's a rubbish idea, that's fair enough. The "back slapping" and "no working model" arguments are just strange though