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Tennis 2019
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Well he’s only playing Halle this year which starts in 10 days. Doubt he’s playing Stuttgart as that’s starting Monday and it would be stupid for him as he’d be risking being jaded for Wimbledon.
Wait, Rafa speaks French now?
Only way Nadal doesn’t win the tournament is Djokovic performing a miracle.
12th final for Nadal. 11-0 record, nobody has ever even taken him to 5 sets
With all this wind, Thiem has a big advantage in the semifinal too.
12th final for Nadal. 11-0 record, nobody has ever even taken him to 5 sets
With all this wind, Thiem has a big advantage in the semifinal too.
Rafa's level has dropped in the third sets of matches all through the tournament and Goffin really went up a level in that set. Besides, when fit, Goffin is an amazing player.
It really is bizarre how a player can be so dominant on one surface. I'd say Rafa is comfortably behind Federer and Djokovic on all other surfaces, but on clay he's just a different animal altogether.
How is Thiem with the wind?Only way Nadal doesn’t win the tournament is Djokovic performing a miracle.
12th final for Nadal. 11-0 record, nobody has ever even taken him to 5 sets
With all this wind, Thiem has a big advantage in the semifinal too.
I listened to the tennis podcast this morning and they said Federer doesn't like windy conditions, Djokovic hates these conditions and that Nadal is one of the best with dealing with windy conditions. No specific mention of Thiem though.
Comfortably behind? Rafa leads Federer on their H2H on all surfaces in Slams. Rafa and Djokovic also are very very even usually across surfaces.
Roger and Novak may be better but they're definitely not "comfortably ahead"
Forget Goffin.
Nadals won 92 out of 94 matches at the French. Give props to Soderling because that looking back now has to be one of the greatest performance from a player.
Djokovic beat him in 2015, but Nadal was totally rubbish that year after coming back from injury. He was losing to any average player and even lost his record of never losing a slam match after being two sets up to Fognini of all people.
Also shame Soderling retired at 26. I liked him as a player and he probably would have gone the path of Wawrinka by winning a slam when the big four were fading.
The tennis podcast is ridiculous. Is it hosted by Catherine Whittaker? She really comes across as annoying and is the type to call anything sexist. Her twitter bio says feminist, so not surprised. Apparently French open organisers are sexist for the way they treated the women’s semi finialists by playing them on different courts. She doesn’t seem to grasp that the men’s matches are the ones people want to see. If Serena was in the semi final then yeah there’s argument for putting her on main court. It’s about star power rather than gender.
Also regarding the wind argument. It’s pretty obvious no tennis player enjoys playing in the wind. I don’t think Rafa enjoys it even though he adapted to it well. But go look at his match against Fognini at Monte Carlo and he wasn’t really enjoying it then.
The tennis podcast is ridiculous. Is it hosted by Catherine Whittaker? She really comes across as annoying and is the type to call anything sexist. Her twitter bio says feminist, so not surprised. Apparently French open organisers are sexist for the way they treated the women’s semi finialists by playing them on different courts. She doesn’t seem to grasp that the men’s matches are the ones people want to see. If Serena was in the semi final then yeah there’s argument for putting her on main court. It’s about star power rather than gender.
Also regarding the wind argument. It’s pretty obvious no tennis player enjoys playing in the wind. I don’t think Rafa enjoys it even though he adapted to it well. But go look at his match against Fognini at Monte Carlo and he wasn’t really enjoying it then.
And Federer's ticket to his Grand Slam, arguably. That game could well have changed the GOAT debate.
Yeah - she's one of the hosts. I don't agree with her take about the scheduling today as since 2017 they have sold the men's SF tickets separately. Apart from today, I largely agree with some of her views about sexisim but that's another story for another day.
I really like the podcast in general though.
Yeah not saying he enjoys windy conditions but he adapts to the conditions better than most. Quite a few commentators and ex players have said as much.
The stadium is so empty. I could have popped to Paris and watched Djoko play.
The organisers did the right thing for me. Women’s played at the same time so no real advantage going into the final tomorrow. I’m surprised people who don’t go to the matches always seem to get worked up on these debates about what court certain players should play etc.
Theim with the early break. I just can't decide who I'd prefer for the final here.
Them with a break, let's see if he can consolidate it.
Yeah considering the circumstances I thought the scheduling was fine today. Didn't know anyone was having problems with it. Seems pretty sensible.
Clearly Thiem and Rafa would rather face Thiem than Djokovic. If Rafa is just slightly below par than Djokovic at his best could win. Where as against Thiem if he’s slightly below par, I’m not sure Thiems best is good enough to beat him.
I am just happy Federer didn't get bagled.
If the conditions are like this on Sunday I think Rafa would do far better vs Djokovic than vs Theim. Theim has been very very good in his last two matches. I honestly am not sure if he'll be any worse than Djokovic as an opponent.
Rafa was feeling his knee that tournament and he also missed Wimbledon after the Soderling game.
It's empty currently because they had to let out all the fans after the first match and then allow them back in. It'll take some time to fill up. Plus it's understandably not full because of the conditions.
Novak will probably lose his temper with this wind.
Unfortunately they will have to keep going as annoying as it is today. Same conditions for all the semi finalists.
Placed my bet on Novak right now @2.45 muahahaha
Thiem wins 1st set
The conditions are not going to be like this according to the forecast. So the wind won’t really play apart in the final thankfully.
Different ticket holders completely at that
Djokovic wants the supervisor to halt play and I think he's got a point. I know Federer and Nadal were professional and played without a fuss but these conditions today aren't meant to be playing tennis in.
Can't do that as it would be unfair. Can't stop it for Novak when the other three semi finalists just got on with it.
Either you stop it for both matches or none.
Novak will figure it out.
He hasn’t got a point. All the competitors today have played in those conditions. There is rain coming in the evening and the wind is there to stay today. If they move it tomorrow and it ends up being a long match then the final will be a farce as Nadal will have easy pickings.
I don't think there are any rules to have play stopped play due to wind. It's the same problem for both players and play will only get stopped it isn't safe for fans and or players, otherwise you just have to deal with it.
Not sure there is much complaining he can do.
In terms of number of slams won they are.
It's bullshit how much the wind is affecting the play here. Huge advantage to play on one side of the court. The wind broke Thiem's serve more than Djokovic did there.
Djokovic once again came out playing like crap but he's been much better after the rain break.
Djokovic once again came out playing like crap but he's been much better after the rain break.
Rafa's H2H on outdoor hard courts is +2 and indoor is -4 vs Federer and presumably worse vs Djokovic.
It's hardly a massive discrepancy, especially when you compare his 3 hardcourt slams and 0 year-ends to Federer and Djokovic's 11/10 slams and 6/5 final wins.
Theim really should have broken there. Had to make that.
That break point
It's so stupid to play in these conditions
It's so stupid to play in these conditions
It's absolutely ruined two amazing matches. Federer Nadal and Djokovic Thiem are the sort of dream lineups you don't often get and this weather has destroyed bothThat break point
It's so stupid to play in these conditions
this really doesn't help the tournament itself. RG is already the most underwhelming GS with regularly the most boring finals and then with those delays and conditions... all three of them are slowly nearing the ends of their careers, so at least do your best not to ruin their matches ffs. just feck off really.
Curse you, Mother Nature!
You won this battle, but we'll win the war!
You won this battle, but we'll win the war!
The roof is definitely getting implemented for next year then!