Been there a couple of times and the grounds aren't that nice either, tight for space and the the stadiums are pretty much all concrete.
Tennis 2019
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
So am I right in thinking Novak just fecked off and forced a postponement? Currently there are clear skies and have been for a half hour.
What the feck? They've cancelled the match and Novak has already left.
It's not even raining now.
It's not even raining now.
I want to know. Must have been the officials.
Did they make that decision because of his influence? All other players accepted the conditions but no, he's too 'special'.
I hope he loses.
Eurosport suggesting Novak left before officials made the decision. Hope it's untrue or at least that Thiem agreed, otherwise that's terrible sportsmanship.
He should be defaulted if that's true.
Waiting for clarification as it would be astonishing if he took that decision on his own.
What? They left because it was raining not because of the wind. What an idiotic statement.
The officials make the decisions on when the match happens, not the players.
I'm pretty sure Novak won't just pack up and leave unless both he and Thiem have been informed that the match has been called off.
That being said, it's a rather strange decision as the sun is now out and the wind has gone. Why didn't they wait a bit?
That being said, it's a rather strange decision as the sun is now out and the wind has gone. Why didn't they wait a bit?
No, Novak left because he didn't like the conditions.
It hasn't been raining for a while, the sun is out! Even Courier has heard Novak left before officials made the call. Everyone waiting for this to be clarified though.
In any case, rain stopped a while ago and it's a fact he was moaning about the wind during the match, so my statement isn't idiotic.
You have absolutely no proof of this at all. None. Saying that as if it was a fact when you have no idea what you're talking about is not ideal.
Of course it is, how is it him complaining about the wind during the match proof of the fact he left the match on his own accord before any officials made a decision?
It's projected to be raining the rest of the day. The officials make the call. Remember what happened in the 2012 Roland Garros final between Nadal and Djokovic?
You have absolutely no proof of this at all. None. Saying that as if it was a fact when you have no idea what you're talking about is not ideal.
Of course it is, how is it him complaining about the wind during the match proof of the fact he left the match on his own accord before any officials made a decision?
It's projected to be raining the rest of the day. The officials make the call. Remember what happened in the 2012 Roland Garros final between Nadal and Djokovic?
It's just what's being said on the telly. E.g. :
So...
Congratulations to Nadal for his 18th Grand Slam title.
Congratulations to Nadal for his 18th Grand Slam title.
Novak left the court when it was lightly raining before the umpire told both to leave the court. He literally did that before the break, after Thiem broke him. It's nota stretch to think he didn't have some negative influence here. Also why complain about the wind? Human beings can do nothing about that. He was itching for any excuse. Rafa, Roger and Thiem knew it's windy and got on with it? Why couldn't he instead of complaining when this is out of a human beings control.You have absolutely no proof of this at all. None. Saying that as if it was a fact when you have no idea what you're talking about is not ideal.
Of course it is, how is it him complaining about the wind during the match proof of the fact he left the match on his own accord before any officials made a decision?
It's projected to be raining the rest of the day. The officials make the call. Remember what happened in the 2012 Roland Garros final between Nadal and Djokovic?
French TV etc just making a big deal about this. Both players would have been informed of it before the annoucement was made and it seems like bad weather is expected later but they really could have played right now. Conditions look good.
So even if Thiem wins tomorrow, he will have less rest than Rafa. Nothing fair about this.
If Novak wins, hope Nadal beats him in the final.
If Novak wins, hope Nadal beats him in the final.
Why? This probably plays into Djoko's hands now because he'll come back and play in good conditions tomorrow and it won't necessarily be a long match either. If the match had gone on today it's hard to imagine Djoko winning this. He was way more affected by the wind than Thiem.
Maybe after Nadal retires can the french open be scrapped or atleast can they improve the facility and make it look like a grand slam event. One of the most boring events in a major sport.
Why are you worried? Your man has the advantage whatever happens now
I would actually support his "feck off" to those in charge, but that most likely wasn't the case. let's not forget that Novak also played 4 days in row when he won the RG because of rain. I don't think they realize it's the players you need to care about, not the fecking schedule. build a roof. delay the match. do everything needed to ensure these matches are what should they be - classics. just scrap the RG and give the GS spot to someone actually willing to do that. Qatar or Germany, doesn't even matter.
Because it was raining and they were told it was getting stopped before it even started? The official literally was the one that called the play to be stopped.
It went over an hour with non stop rain after they left the court...
What does that have to do with anything? Wind affects him the most out of any of those players so he gets frustrated and complains about it, so what? It literally has absolutely nothing to do with the rain situation. Match wasn't stopped due to a lot of wind.
If there's a player enjoying how this turned out, it's Nadal. Not Djokovic who now has a much worse chance of winning the tournament.
People are so gullible
People are going a bit overboard. Yes RG is badly managed and has some terrible scheduling but there's a roof from next year so things will be far better then.
The weather is not in their control but some of their decisions like ticketing separately for both men SFs and the fact they spread out R1 over 3 days is something they could look into.
The weather is not in their control but some of their decisions like ticketing separately for both men SFs and the fact they spread out R1 over 3 days is something they could look into.
Nadal has been breezing through and now has a full day of rest.
You can drop your fretting, unless he lands on his knee sometimes between now and the final he will win it in a canter.
If you really think Nadal will "win it in a canter" against someone like Novak in a Grand Slam final I don't think you watch much of the guy or appreciate his greatness. Players have played back to back days before as well and won.
Nadal has been breezing through and now has a full day of rest.
You can drop your fretting, unless he lands on his knee sometimes between now and the final he will win it in a canter.
People thought Nadal would be exhausted after his match vs Verdasco and yet he went and beat Federer after that in 5 sets.
Easy for Domo.
Not watching but sounds like peak Novak
A bit similar to the Thiem and Serena thing earlier in the tournament. A play criticised before the facts were known.
It's just such a daft story. Of course Djokovic didn't just get in a car and piss off.
As for the actual tennis, I think the delay will help him get through this semi, but I suspect it'll do for him on Sunday. Which is a shame. I'd love to see him go toe to toe with Rafa at the French if both were on it.
As for the actual tennis, I think the delay will help him get through this semi, but I suspect it'll do for him on Sunday. Which is a shame. I'd love to see him go toe to toe with Rafa at the French if both were on it.
Yeah Novak/Thiem have been lucky being in that half of the draw. They already faced a washout day before and now this. That being said, I think either of them would recover in time for the final on Sunday and it won't be that big a factor.
Now Konta calling organisers sexist. Yeah because putting you on the main court would have not made you choke. Probably did her a favour and she still lost.
There's no sexist angle in this at all. The mistake was selling separate tickets for the men's semifinals and once that was done, there was no way to hold simultaneous matches for everyone.
There is an issue though that surely they would have considered if this scenario arose (there was one day called off due to rain, it wasn't like they had several days of backlog) and yet they still decided to start selling the tickets separately, presumably in the knowledge that they could just bung one of the women's matches on to Simonne Mathieu if that happened. To suggest Konta was blaming the court she played on for her defeat is very unfair, she even said it didn't affect the tennis, but it's not right that a showpiece event like a semi final is being moved to the third court.
Now we also have the issue that for the second time in less than a year that the time of a women's grand slam final is TBC just hours before because the men have to play out first.
There's an obvious sexist element to it , not sure how anyone can deny that .
How so ?
I think that it's the duty of the organisers to treat the two events in the same way. The forecast was known for days and as someone said earlier they made the decision to sell these tickets knowing that they will just switch the women to other courts if it came down to it . No one really cares much about how they treat the two events in the earlier rounds but at this stage of such a prestigious tournament to make the top women's players play on the third best court was not the right call . There is no possible scenario I see in which they would have played Thiem vs Djokovic on the third court
Aren't the organizers also obliged to showcase the matches that draw the most interest on the most prominent courts ?
The flaw in the plan was them selling tickets individually for both mens semi finals. I get the fact that it would make them a lot of money because those tickets would definitely sell out but once they did make the decision to sell them separately, there was just no way they could have put either of the men's matches off PC. You can't put 15k people on SL or Court 3. There is no sexist angle to this but it's all about making maximum money.
Bad weather and poor forecasts in Paris are an annual event and it's very very rare that an entire day gets washed out. Infact I think this was just the second time in over a decade that this has happened so I guess they just assumed they'll manage to get the matches done.
I don't think it's a sexist element as much as wanting to maximize their revenue and they know the men will sellout both their SF. We saw how empty the stands were for the women in comparison to the men so I think this is more a case of just greed over sexism.
What they really need to improve though is scheduling. They have a day more than Wimbledon does, they play the first round over 3 days (what's the need?) and they're extremely inflexible in terms of starting matches an hour or two earlier than normal in situations of rain or a backlog.