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Big win that for Murray as Fognini played great at times.

I think we'll see him lose in the SF with Cilic or Rafa making the final.
 
Fitting that Fognini saved one of his more impressive recent collapses for Centre Court. No way that Murray gets past Nadal, he looked pretty bad out there.
 
Fognini almost taking two sets off Murray on grass, fecking hell. Andy needs some time off. He pissed around with his back for far too long and he's not young enough to try and play through the pain barrier for another length of time.

On that basis he'll struggle to get through the quarters.
 
How far can the crowd carry a crocked Murray?
Semis I think. Paire in R4, who's not all that and then Anderson/Tsonga/Querrey in the QFs. All decent grass courters, but don't see them beating Murray unless in complete servebot mode.
 
Had a look at Novak's draw again, and he really should be making the SFs here, no problem. Gulbis, Monfils and Berdych/Thiem to get there.
 
Muller game will be a tough one. It's tough to break guys like him.
 
Muller game will be a tough one. It's tough to break guys like him.

He's had a very grass court season too. It will be the biggest test Nadal has faced this Wimbledon.

I fancy Nadal to beat Murray if both make it to the semi finals.
 
He's had a very grass court season too. It will be the biggest test Nadal has faced this Wimbledon.

I fancy Nadal to beat Murray if both make it to the semi finals.
Yeah usually I wouldn't worry about Muller but he's done well this season and with that serve, you never know. Every match now is going to be really difficult.
 
If Muller got taken to five sets by Wimbledon GOAT Lukas Rosol then surely the only logical prediciton is a straight sets win for Muller.
 
Anyone genuinely thinks that Novak Djokovic can win Wimbledon? So tempted to put a substantial bet on Novak to win it all @5 but everytime I bet on him as an outright winner, he loses. :lol: - Australian Open 2014, French Open 2015, US Open 2016, Australian Open 2017, French Open 2017, I often let my heart overrules my head when it comes to Novak as I'm a fan of him. I had like 2 grand on each, fecker has made me lose 10k over the past 3 years. :mad:

Although he did won me quite a bit of money during his peak years in his individual matches from 2011 to 2015, and his French Open win in 2016 before he lost his magic, I lost more than I won on him though. I look at his draw and I'm thinking, surely he has to make it to the semis at least. Unfortunately, this version of Novak isn't the same anymore ever since he hired that fraud guru Pepe; who values life happiness more than winning so this affects his mental strength which used to be his greatest weapon on the court. I'm thinking of putting Federer @3 as a cover bet as I expect Djokovic and Federer to meet in the semis and the winner of that tie to win Wimbledon.
 
Anyone genuinely thinks that Novak Djokovic can win Wimbledon? So tempted to put a substantial bet on Novak to win it all @5 but everytime I bet on him as an outright winner, he loses. :lol: - Australian Open 2014, French Open 2015, US Open 2016, Australian Open 2017, French Open 2017, I often let my heart overrules my head when it comes to Novak as I'm a fan of him. I had like 2 grand on each, fecker has made me lose 10k over the past 3 years. :mad:
It wouldn't surprise me at all. At the start of the tournament I thought he had a good draw (apart from DelPo who went out early anyway). I don't see him beating Federer, but if Fed loses to Dimitrov or Raonic then, I'd back Novak to make the final.
 
When is Nadal's next game and who is he playing?
Gilles Muller, they play tomorrow. I reckon Nadal will make a deep run this time, he should make the semis and meet Murray if all goes according to the script. The Big 4 are all playing very well in this season's Wimbledon.
 
Gilles Muller, they play tomorrow. I reckon Nadal will make a deep run this time, he should make the semis and meet Murray if all goes according to the script. The Big 4 are all playing very well in this season's Wimbledon.
Match will be on Monday. All the R4 matches played on second Monday as is tradition that there's no play on middle Sunday
 
Anyone genuinely thinks that Novak Djokovic can win Wimbledon? So tempted to put a substantial bet on Novak to win it all @5 but everytime I bet on him as an outright winner, he loses. :lol: - Australian Open 2014, French Open 2015, US Open 2016, Australian Open 2017, French Open 2017, I often let my heart overrules my head when it comes to Novak as I'm a fan of him. I had like 2 grand on each, fecker has made me lose 10k over the past 3 years. :mad:

Although he did won me quite a bit of money during his peak years in his individual matches from 2011 to 2015, and his French Open win in 2016 before he lost his magic, I lost more than I won on him though. I look at his draw and I'm thinking, surely he has to make it to the semis at least. Unfortunately, this version of Novak isn't the same anymore ever since he hired that fraud guru Pepe; who values life happiness more than winning so this affects his mental strength which used to be his greatest weapon on the court. I'm thinking of putting Federer @3 as a cover bet as I expect Djokovic and Federer to meet in the semis and the winner of that tie to win Wimbledon.
Maybe wait til after today, he's been hard to judge so far due to poor opponents and that retirement in the first round. I can't see him going out before the semis regardless of his form though, and I'd probably have him as favourite to come out of the bottom half if he shows any kind of form today. But unlike you I think the winner comes from the top half.
 
It wouldn't surprise me at all. At the start of the tournament I thought he had a good draw (apart from DelPo who went out early anyway). I don't see him beating Federer, but if Fed loses to Dimitrov or Raonic then, I'd back Novak to make the final.
Well that's the thing, I can't see Federer losing to either Dimitrov or Raonic, he skipped the French Open in preparation for this season's Wimbledon so he sees Wimbledon as a mission so I'd have him as #1 favourites for the title and make it to the semis at least. I think its worth pointing out that after Federer, Djokovic has the second most Wimbledon wins and he has a very strong record on grass. Personally, I think the main issue with Novak is not about his physical ability, he has no notable weakness on any surface. I have no doubt about his physical ability, it's his personal issues which seems to have affected his performance on court. If he can sort that out, I'm sure he would be back to his best. However, I get the feeling that Wimbledon is a slam competition you must be at your absolute best to win it, I think this tournament could come a little too soon for Novak. Maybe he would win US Open. Honestly, I wish Federer isn't in the same half of the draw as Djokovic, betting on both means I'm sure to lose out on one. It would be great if I can have a similar situation like Germany vs Chile in the Confederations Cup Final. :p

Perhaps I should go for Nadal as a cover bet but I fancy Federer over him.

I think the final would be Nadal vs Federer/Djokovic.
 
Gilles Muller, they play tomorrow. I reckon Nadal will make a deep run this time, he should make the semis and meet Murray if all goes according to the script. The Big 4 are all playing very well in this season's Wimbledon.
Cheers man.
 
Well that's the thing, I can't see Federer losing to either Dimitrov or Raonic, he skipped the French Open in preparation for this season's Wimbledon so he sees Wimbledon as a mission so I'd have him as #1 favourites for the title and make it to the semis at least. I think its worth pointing out that after Federer, Djokovic has the second most Wimbledon wins and he has a very strong record on grass. Personally, I think the main issue with Novak is not about his physical ability, he has no notable weakness on any surface. I have no doubt about his physical ability, it's his personal issues which seems to have affected his performance on court. If he can sort that out, I'm sure he would be back to his best. However, I get the feeling that Wimbledon is a slam competition you must be at your absolute best to win it, I think this tournament could come a little too soon for Novak. Maybe he would win US Open. Honestly, I wish Federer isn't in the same half of the draw as Djokovic, betting on both means I'm sure to lose out on one. It would be great if I can have a similar situation like Germany vs Chile in the Confederations Cup Final. :p

Perhaps I should go for Nadal as a cover bet but I fancy Federer over him.

I think the final would be Nadal vs Federer/Djokovic.
I wouldn't bet on it, but think they will both have a chance. Dimitrov has been good so far this tournament (no decent opponent though) and likes the grass. Raonic has been disappointing this year, but he beat Federer last year at Wimbledon, and with his serve, he can trouble anyone on his day.
 
Maybe wait til after today, he's been hard to judge so far due to poor opponents and that retirement in the first round. I can't see him going out before the semis regardless of his form though, and I'd probably have him as favourite to come out of the bottom half if he shows any kind of form today. But unlike you I think the winner comes from the top half.
I can't afford to wait though, if he wins, I'm pretty sure the odds would drop and considering my bet is 3k, even a slight drop in the odds would means losing out on quite a bit. Who do you reckon would win then? Nadal/Murray?
 
I wouldn't bet on it, but think they will both have a chance. Dimitrov has been good so far this tournament (no decent opponent though) and likes the grass. Raonic has been disappointing this year, but he beat Federer last year at Wimbledon, and with his serve, he can trouble anyone on his day.
I'm still not convinced by the 90s generation, they have been rather disappointing TBH. No one has really stepped up to take over the mantle from the Big 4 and as long as the Big 4 is still around, I can't see any of the young gen winning it. I think they lack the mental strength. You could be right though, it wouldn't be shocking to see Federer losing to eithe Dimitrov or Raonic but I think he should beat them as he seems to be back to his best and he's taken time off to prepare for this.
 
I'm still not convinced by the 90s generation, they have been rather disappointing TBH. No one has really stepped up to take over the mantle from the Big 4 and as long as the Big 4 is still around, I can't see any of the young gen winning it. I think they lack the mental strength. You could be right though, it wouldn't be shocking to see Federer losing to eithe Dimitrov or Raonic but I think he should beat them as he seems to be back to his best and he's taken time off to prepare for this.
I have the same sentiment, but in a one off game, I think they're both capable of beating one of the top 4 in a slam. Dimitrov did it again Murray (albeit a few years ago) and Raonic did it last year against Federer. Both at Wimbledon. Problem for them, is I don't think they'd back it up against Djokovic.

Federer is still a clear favorite, but him beating both of them is not a foregone conclusion unlike his first 3 rounds.
 
I can't afford to wait though, if he wins, I'm pretty sure the odds would drop and considering my bet is 3k, even a slight drop in the odds would means losing out on quite a bit. Who do you reckon would win then? Nadal/Murray?
Would the odds change? Maybe if Federer were to lose but otherwise I don't think him beating Gulbis would make a difference... Perhaps if he were to win 6-0 6-0 6-0 I guess. Think the safe money is on Nadal myself after Murray's showing last night.
 
Would the odds change? Maybe if Federer were to lose but otherwise I don't think him beating Gulbis would make a difference... Perhaps if he were to win 6-0 6-0 6-0 I guess. Think the safe money is on Nadal myself after Murray's showing last night.
Could do as well if Thiem, Monfils or Berdych go out. Don't think they would beat him anyway, especially Monfils, but it would make his run even easier.
 
Would the odds change? Maybe if Federer were to lose but otherwise I don't think him beating Gulbis would make a difference... Perhaps if he were to win 6-0 6-0 6-0 I guess. Think the safe money is on Nadal myself after Murray's showing last night.

Could do as well if Thiem, Monfils or Berdych go out. Don't think they would beat him anyway, especially Monfils, but it would make his run even easier.

I'm thinking that as well but didn't really want to take the risk to be honest. You are probably right, Gulbis is ranked 589th, so the odds probably might not even drop but I didn't want to take the risk as Novak's odds has actually dropped from 6 to 5 since the start of the tournament. I regret not listening to you guys, I should have replaced Federer with Nadal, now come to think of it, Nadal would be a safer bet as I remember seeing a statistic that he always seem to play well in Wimbledon or makes it to the final of a Wimbledon everytime he wins the French Open, something like this.

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Its too late though, I've put my stakes, decided to go for a lower stake as 3k on Novak seems too risky. Honestly, I'm already thinking of cashing out my bet for Federer and put it on Nadal instead. Don't mind losing the 60.
 
Second slam in a row where Tsonga has been a game away from being knocked out and play has had to finish the match off the following day. On both occasions now he's lose the game and subsequently the match :lol:
 
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