Telegraph Investigation: England Manager Sam Allardyce For Sale | Big Sam leaves England job

Pardew for next England manager? They are running out of options tbf. LvG anyone?
Rather stay with Sam, and doubt Pardew is a paragon of virtue either
 
Gareth Southgate, England manger, it is then.

For how good any of them are, we'd be better off setting up a facebook page and just get people to vote on the team. It could hardly go worse than the last two tournaments.
 
Hang on...I thought the 'pint of wine' was merely a statement of the quantity of wine he consumed during the meeting, but he actually drank a pint glass full of wine, in front of a bunch of potential business partners he was meeting for the first time!

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Hang on...I thought the 'pint of wine' was merely a statement of the quantity of wine he consumed, but he actually drank a pint glass full of wine, in front of a bunch of potential business partners he was meeting for the first time!

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Thumbs up from me for this potential successor to Sam Allardyce as England boss.

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Think Rooney should apply for the job:D. He already does what he wants so may as well give it him.
 
Should've gone for Bielsa. He could do wonders with Rashford, Sterling and others.

Good call, but do you think the player would understand his "philosophy"? Don't forget, Bielsa is also the one with his so-called "philosophy". It'll be very interesting though. We might get to see England playing in 3-4-3 under him.
 
Without a doubt he is - Bruce would be a good shout imo though I dont think Sam is going anywhere.

If you ask me. Even if England had to create a person whose got the traits of SAF, Shankly, Busby, Genghis Khan and Napoleon Bonaparte. They would still fail miserably. The real issue here is the FA and had been so for the past 70 years. In matter of fact I think that England won the world cup in spite of the FA rather then thanks to it.

Its ridiculous that the richest FA in the world had not been able to produce 1 top quality manager in the past 2 decades. Its also ridiculous how a national team keeps underachieving year after year without anyone doing anything about it. Big Sam is just another ridiculous mistake which include

a- the FA killing off the best England's crop (literally) because for them the European Cup is trivial when compared to the league,
b- not winning more WCs despite having quite competitive sides. For the simple reason that the FA snubbed the WC for many many years
c- Not appointing an absolute genius as manager (Clough) and opting for Greenwood instead
d- going extra tough against possibly the best defender England had ever had (second maybe to Moore)

No wonder why SAF calls it the role of England's manager as the poisoned chalice.

Well done for the FA whose got a crop of players whose nowhere near to the one before it and 2 generation of football people who know as much about football as Rooney know about nuclear engineering.

It pisses me off really because if the England team of the class of 92 era was actually Italian they would have won 2 WCs.
 
Good call, but do you think the player would understand his "philosophy"? Don't forget, Bielsa is also the one with his so-called "philosophy". It'll be very interesting though. We might get to see England playing in 3-4-3 under him.

His sides generally play great attacking football. Chile and Bilbao in particular spring to mind. The likes of Rashford, Welbeck, Sterling, Sturridge and others would flourish imo.
 
Give Redknapp (Harry, that is) a go. He's got a bit of baggage but everybody else just makes a right mess of it and I think he'd just get the feelgood factor going. The players need to be unleashed and just smiling will be a start. He's not for the long term but he'd give the FA time to identify a proper long term target like Eddie Howe. Bournemouth have a shelf life in this league and he will grow tired of a yearly struggle to keep them up and maybe one more season of staving off relegation will be enough for him. Redknapp followed by Howe in a season or two could be a good fit.
 
I'd wank him off for 400k, i could use 50k to get over the social media battering, then the other 350k to get wired...End of the day, money is stupid in football, worse than Monopoly. Big Sam just told it how it is, the same thing he says will be happening throughout the world of football - so if you want to sack him and make him the example for whatever repercussions there are for this, then so be it- but at least now go and question every single manager/transfer/agent in football - i guarantee they will be just as dodgy...
 
His sides generally play great attacking football. Chile and Bilbao in particular spring to mind. The likes of Rashford, Welbeck, Sterling, Sturridge and others would flourish imo.

That I agree 100% attacking football part, but I don't think English players are technically or tactically versatile enough to play Bielsa's football. Especially Welbeck.
 
If you ask me. Even if England had to create a person whose got the traits of SAF, Shankly, Busby, Genghis Khan and Napoleon Bonaparte. They would still fail miserably. The real issue here is the FA and had been so for the past 70 years. In matter of fact I think that England won the world cup in spite of the FA rather then thanks to it.

Its ridiculous that the richest FA in the world had not been able to produce 1 top quality manager in the past 2 decades. Its also ridiculous how a national team keeps underachieving year after year without anyone doing anything about it. Big Sam is just another ridiculous mistake which include

a- the FA killing off the best England's crop (literally) because for them the European Cup is trivial when compared to the league,
b- not winning more WCs despite having quite competitive sides. For the simple reason that the FA snubbed the WC for many many years
c- Not appointing an absolute genius as manager (Clough) and opting for Greenwood instead
d- going extra tough against possibly the best defender England had ever had (second maybe to Moore)

No wonder why SAF calls it the role of England's manager as the poisoned chalice.

Well done for the FA whose got a crop of players whose nowhere near to the one before it and 2 generation of football people who know as much about football as Rooney know about nuclear engineering.

It pisses me off really because if the England team of the class of 92 era was actually Italian they would have won 2 WCs.

I agree, the FA are a bunch of old boys club and always have been.
 
If you ask me. Even if England had to create a person whose got the traits of SAF, Shankly, Busby, Genghis Khan and Napoleon Bonaparte. They would still fail miserably. The real issue here is the FA and had been so for the past 70 years. In matter of fact I think that England won the world cup in spite of the FA rather then thanks to it.

Its ridiculous that the richest FA in the world had not been able to produce 1 top quality manager in the past 2 decades. Its also ridiculous how a national team keeps underachieving year after year without anyone doing anything about it. Big Sam is just another ridiculous mistake which include

a- the FA killing off the best England's crop (literally) because for them the European Cup is trivial when compared to the league,
b- not winning more WCs despite having quite competitive sides. For the simple reason that the FA snubbed the WC for many many years
c- Not appointing an absolute genius as manager (Clough) and opting for Greenwood instead
d- going extra tough against possibly the best defender England had ever had (second maybe to Moore)

No wonder why SAF calls it the role of England's manager as the poisoned chalice.

Well done for the FA whose got a crop of players whose nowhere near to the one before it and 2 generation of football people who know as much about football as Rooney know about nuclear engineering.

It pisses me off really because if the England team of the class of 92 era was actually Italian they would have won 2 WCs.

Or it could be that England's players are generally ridiculously overrated and have not deserved to win any tournament since 1966? You can perhaps accuse the FA of not putting enough cash/effort into promoting top quality english coaches over the years and more focus on developing young talent but other than that I'm not sure there is much more to say rather than England haven't been good enough.
 
England, the gift that keeps on giving.

I feel a bit sorry for Sam, we all say dumbass things with drink or two taken.
That's probably where I tend to fall on it too. I wouldn't be remotely surprised if he is crooked - his past history with agents etc. would suggest so - but he seems to have been approached by people offering him a massive amount of money, who brought him down the road of third party ownership, all under the influence of alcohol. There's certainly a chance he'll end up being hoisted by his own hubris and self-importance, rather than any real wrongdoing or even intention to act that way.

All that said, the FA continually criticise all and sundry for corruption, so allowing the figurehead of the football association to say stuff like this doesn't seem the wisest move, or set the best example for others to follow. And, of course, the press will immediately hammer them for that, even though they're complicit in creating this situation in the first place.
 
Hang on...I thought the 'pint of wine' was merely a statement of the quantity of wine he consumed during the meeting, but he actually drank a pint glass full of wine, in front of a bunch of potential business partners he was meeting for the first time!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

ffs :lol:

All that said, the FA continually criticise all and sundry for corruption, so allowing the figurehead of the football association to say stuff like this doesn't seem the wisest move, or set the best example for others to follow. And, of course, the press will immediately hammer them for that, even though they're complicit in creating this situation in the first place.

And of course there's the influence this behaviour could have on the national team. Imagine the reactions of the media and the public if they would keep him and England would lose their next match.
 
I agree, the FA are a bunch of old boys club and always have been.

For too many years the FA had been making excuses for its constant mistakes. The current excuse is the xenophobic one ie foreigners is making it difficult for new talent to prosper. Which is kind of lame. Spain won the WC when Real and Barcelona were the richest and most attractive teams in the world. Italy had the best team in the world (USA World cup) when everyone wanted to go there and currently has the worst squad ever despite being at its poorest levels ever. Ultimately clubs are there to make money. If they can get away with the local product instead of spending 100m on a player then they will do it, especially since the local product wont struggle to settle down and is less likely to feck off when Real comes calling.

England has a weak national team because the FA's system is messed up. Its impact is felt even at coaching/management level. There need a big revamp at all levels and alot of patience. Would they do it? I doubt it
 
It pisses me off really because if the England team of the class of 92 era was actually Italian they would have won 2 WCs.
It was all going so well until this point. No doubt English teams have underperformed at major tournaments and their whole tends to be less than the sum of their parts but even with a top manager there's no way they would win 2 world cups.
 
I used to go out with a girl whose dad was high up in the FA. Most evenings he'd be unconscious on the kitchen floor pissed out of his gourd.
He knew nothing about football and cared even less, but earned an absolute fortune. The FA is still run by these idiots.
 
Or it could be that England's players are generally ridiculously overrated and have not deserved to win any tournament since 1966? You can perhaps accuse the FA of not putting enough cash/effort into promoting top quality english coaches over the years and more focus on developing young talent but other than that I'm not sure there is much more to say rather than England haven't been good enough.

Look, if there's anyone whose good in underrating players in here its me. However I refuse to believe that England doesn't have the necessary quality to beat Iceland.

Its not a 1 off thing. England of the class of 92 generation was competitive. It had a rock solid defence (Gaz-Terry/Campbell-Rio-Cole) and top quality midfield (Lampard, Gerrard, Scholes, Carrick) and a rather decent forward line. Yet time and time again it failed to deliver

There seem to be a lack of understanding in terms of tactical knowledge which had been impacting everybody from players to coaches (you only have to hear Gaz-Carra talking and they are the best of the crop). Now that football is becoming more organised and tactical oriented this weakness is impacting the quality of the players too.
 
I can't see what he has done wrong. Nothing he said about contracts is unknown to people in the footballing industry - it just sounds like a 101 on how to conduct transfers.

Likewise his quotes on Hodgeson, Neville, Prince's William and Harry are just opinions and hardly controversial.

Last surely the evidence in inadmissible as it was recorded without his knowing.

This is just sensationalism and it's quite pathetic
 
I used to go out with a girl whose dad was high up in the FA. Most evenings he'd be unconscious on the kitchen floor pissed out of his gourd.
He knew nothing about football and cared even less, but earned an absolute fortune. The FA is still run by these idiots.

Sounds like a subtle RAWK post about Fergie.
 
It was all going so well until this point. No doubt English teams have underperformed at major tournaments and their whole tends to be less than the sum of their parts but even with a top manager there's no way they would win 2 world cups.

Its not just the top manager but also the whole structure, the way players are brought and the tactical knowledge and discipline they are raised in. Italy can have a shit side (As the one they had during last tournament) and they would still overachieve. England can have a quite talented squad and they would underachieve.

I can see them win at least 1 WC, possibly 2 if the usual Italian management cockiness doesn't kick in
 
I used to go out with a girl whose dad was high up in the FA. Most evenings he'd be unconscious on the kitchen floor pissed out of his gourd.
He knew nothing about football and cared even less, but earned an absolute fortune. The FA is still run by these idiots.

:lol: love it.