I always liked Sam Allerdyce to be honest. But I laugh when stuff goes wrong with the England team.
Telegraph Investigation: England Manager Sam Allardyce For Sale | Big Sam leaves England job
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Have you ever been in a similar situation to Sam?
Bruh, Have you ever had a uni interview?
Being England manager isn't anything worth talking about compared to that.
Well looks like he was right all along
Report in the sun also mentions it-
SAM ALLARDYCE is alleged to have dumped Ravel Morrison in the West Ham reserves for refusing to sign a new contract with Big Sam’s agent Mark Curtis.
Both Allardyce and Curtis deny the allegations – which were first made in 2013 – but the claims have resurfaced after The Telegraph’s big sting that forced Allardyce to leave his job as England manager.
Morrison, then just 20 years old, had made a breakthrough in the Hammers side, scoring a breathtaking solo goal against Tottenham in a stunning 3-0 win at White Hart Lane.
Big Sam allegedly promised to get him a new contract if the player dropped his representative and signed up with Curtis' agency, but when the player refused to do so, he was dropped from the starting line-up and put in the reserves.
The prodigious young player, who played in the same Manchester United FA Youth Cup-winning team as Paul Pogba, was dropped by then United boss Sir Alex Ferguson after a string of disciplinary problems.
And Big Sam was seen as the only man in the Premier League who could turn his flagging young career around.
Come on then lets have at it with some names,
Who are the two current PL managers, recon the current WBA, CP and SC managers may have some fingers in pies.
Who are the two current PL managers, recon the current WBA, CP and SC managers may have some fingers in pies.
I think they have passed the info to the FA for them to investigate. It could be a while before we hear anything.
Bit rich of Sam to cry entrapment.
Had he got away with 400k in his bank account he would have said feck all.
Had he got away with 400k in his bank account he would have said feck all.
The Bebe deal always struck me as dodgy.
Wouldn't me surprised to see that one come out.
Wouldn't me surprised to see that one come out.
If Sam did do that its far more despicable than trying to trouser an extra £400k. Morrison was flying at that point and Sam f*cked him over.
Isn't he getting a 7 figure payoff. For someone supposedly chasing pennies around the world, maybe the joke is on the FA
Some wanker refused to play players unless he received half of their apperance bonuses, used to bump up wages for a cut etc.
I think i misspelled wanker there...
£1 million for 1 game and 2 months "work"
It's strange that a lot of people think this 400k contract or his remarks about Roy and Gary are the big deal here when the big elephant in the room is that he actively wanted to help people circumvent the law and exploit people...
But Morrison's had plenty of time to get his act together. I'd say he flecked himself over the day he pissed his Utd career away. He needs to stop looking for scapegoats for his ailing career
He definitely didn't watch American Hustle.
And I was feeling sorry for the man.
It's all kinds of wrong.
Poor Ravel
Everyone knew he was a 'problem' kid - of course no one believed him..
I guess Karma finally caught up with Fat Sam.
you missed out the 'Colin'
I really hope one is pearson so football can be rid of the nasty fecker. I should imagine redknapp will be keeping his head down too.
I would laugh my balls off if moyes got caught in it all.
Edit: If what allardyce did to Ravel is true, he's got off lightly. The lad has problems, no doubt, but he was trying at west ham, and allardyce fecked over a lad who he knew would get the blame for screwing up again, because he could.
That is much, much worse than anything in the video.
Ravel is still to this day the most talented youth player I have ever seen.
I would laugh my balls off if moyes got caught in it all.
Edit: If what allardyce did to Ravel is true, he's got off lightly. The lad has problems, no doubt, but he was trying at west ham, and allardyce fecked over a lad who he knew would get the blame for screwing up again, because he could.
That is much, much worse than anything in the video.
Ravel is still to this day the most talented youth player I have ever seen.
I wonder if the whiter than white character is a a very famous Scottish manager, especially well known in these neck of the woods?
Yeah pretty much! I wasn't there but my mum was and apparently it was absolutely manic - don't know the guy but I bet he's gutted!
Says a few choice words for a mate and 2 weeks wages, loses the job of his 30 year career!
Doubt it. For Sir Alex to be not making that much money you would have to go back decades.
Has to be sombody around for a while before having success at a decent sized club or a manager who came up through the divisions.
Fergie does have history in that respect though, ask the BBC
I wonder if there's some kind of info on clubs who have dealt Plagliara?
In terms on speculating who the names might be, apart from 'Arry there's the usual suspects such as Warnock, Pearson and Kean. But the Torygraph also seems to be implying that some of the most famous managers in the English game have been accused, some really big fish! I'm intrigued!!
In terms on speculating who the names might be, apart from 'Arry there's the usual suspects such as Warnock, Pearson and Kean. But the Torygraph also seems to be implying that some of the most famous managers in the English game have been accused, some really big fish! I'm intrigued!!
I took some of that for erectile dysfunction
FFS Im hungover and dont get it....Wenger? lol
Aye, that Moyes fellow is dodgy as feck.
Dont google it but 'Colin Wanker'is an anagram of his name.
Be honest and see how long it takes you to work it out
Are you related to Sam Allardyce?
feck the fat-headed twat. I hope he's miserable now.
I dont think it's that simple for manager to abuse their power.
At this age of socmed such a move would have caused the players to leak out. Players have mouthed of for much less, let alone extortion of this proportion
Surprised this hasn't had its own thread.
So recently we've had allegations that managers trying to get the cut of the appearances bonus or they would not play said player. How is that possible?
An extortion of this proportion would have caused upset and surely there will be news leaking out from the players, it's not like they go up against SAF. Ravel morisson isn't even coached by big sam no more, he would have come out if its true.
Also I don't really think it's possible to extract transfer fee from agent, the clubs would have their auditor in check and lawyers to make sure everything is done in an amicable way? Wouldn't they?
So recently we've had allegations that managers trying to get the cut of the appearances bonus or they would not play said player. How is that possible?
An extortion of this proportion would have caused upset and surely there will be news leaking out from the players, it's not like they go up against SAF. Ravel morisson isn't even coached by big sam no more, he would have come out if its true.
Also I don't really think it's possible to extract transfer fee from agent, the clubs would have their auditor in check and lawyers to make sure everything is done in an amicable way? Wouldn't they?
It did leak out though? I read that quite awhile ago and it's not as if i snuck in and spied on the camp.
Some clubs are utterly stupid in the way they indulge managers though. For example, IIRC one boss (I think it may be the Wembley Travolta) had a deal with his club like this: he got a bonus on signing a player, and a bonus if he later sold that player for a profit. Maybe I'm missing something but I'd have thought that the salary the club were already paying the manager included money for obvious duties: i.e. the recruitment & sale of players. Surely this could lead to conflicts of interest? For instance, West Ham should be looking very closely as to why Allardyce felt that he really needed certain players to be signed and/or sold regardless of the best interests of the club.