me too, Evans still has so much potential. I can't for a second believe that we'd sell Evans for anything less than 10m, especially considering what we and the scousers are about to pay for 2 young talents.
Sunderland bid £12m for O'Shea, Gibson & Brown
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me too, Evans still has so much potential. I can't for a second believe that we'd sell Evans for anything less than 10m, especially considering what we and the scousers are about to pay for 2 young talents.
Agreed.
Evans is a promising young centre half, JOS is a not a great footballer, but a jack of all trades.
Personally, I'd rather have a good player in every position than an average player who can play them all a little bit.
If the romours about us going for Varane are anything to go by, then we may well see Evans go anyway.
You'll be in trouble for that Blair.
So Is any of this Official? 12 million doesnt seem enough to me. Would except 5 Million for each of them 2 of them are extremely experienced and proved them self at the very top level and you would think any club buying them would get 3 more years or so of that level out of them. Gibson doesn't have the same experience but is still young with alot of potential.
10m the minimum. 1 bad year means nothing, he's young and has all the potential to return to his former best.
United defense offers great opportunity for defenders. Rio is sadly becoming injury prone, the right rear flank is up for grabs and Fabio has yet to prove that he can play the entire 90 minutes week in week out. Evans can cover all roles, he is a right footed defender who have played as left back with N Ireland (I think) and CB with us. Leaving United now is a big big mistake which he may regret.
There is no way it could be Evans imo.
No way could Sunderland seriously rate a trio of Gibson, Brown AND Evans at 12million. It would be minimum 14/15million. Evans, despite a poorish season, would still command about 8million or so imo - wouldn't want him sold for that, but wouldn't consider anything less as being realistic.
£12m no fecking way.
£20m for all 3.
£20m for all 3.
Varane is 18 yrs old FFS. Evans is older, he's got ample CL, international and EPL experience. The gap between them is huge. Its like saying that Rio is in trouble because we are signing Phil Jones.
Yeah I guess, I think I'm just finding difficult to comprehend why we would sell Sheasy.
2 players (Brown and Gibson) on their last year of contract and O'shea probably also on the last year.
This talk about conctract lenght affecting the sale price of players, it doesn't fully apply to loyal players though does it? Since they are most likely to sign a new contract if they are not sold.
Nothing less that £20m.
I'd rather not sell O'shea. Brown looks dead cert to leave.
I'd rather not sell O'shea. Brown looks dead cert to leave.
John O'Shea - Player profile - transfermarkt.co.uk
JOS 5.720.000 £
Wes Brown - Player profile - transfermarkt.co.uk
Wes 5.280.000 £
Darron Gibson - Player profile - transfermarkt.co.uk
Gibbo 3.080.000 £
15.000.000 £ (14.080.000)
I reckon transfermarkt needs an update though
JOS 5.720.000 £
Wes Brown - Player profile - transfermarkt.co.uk
Wes 5.280.000 £
Darron Gibson - Player profile - transfermarkt.co.uk
Gibbo 3.080.000 £
15.000.000 £ (14.080.000)
I reckon transfermarkt needs an update though
They can have O'Shea too. Phil Jones arriving means we've got enough quality at the back without him.
It does because if players are sold without handing in a transfer request they are entitled to a contract severance payout, which is why the fee drops considerably when a player hands a request in - it's usually the transfer fee that funds the severance
So is there anything more to this story than the usual media bullshit? When I saw it reported I laughed it off as just that, but to reach 18 pages on here I'm guessing it does look more likely than the usual?
Unless every tabloid and Sky Sports have got it wrong then this is real. Brucie confirmed the bid has been made at least, several papers say United have accepted and now it's up to the players to agree personal terms. SSN though have not stated the bid has been accepted.
Aah, that's what I missed. Anyone got a link to that?
We won't miss any of Gibson, Brown or O'Shea.
We may as well pull in some cash for them. We can all see (hopefully) what Fergie is doing. He's getting the dead wood out, ageing players etc and replacing with promising youth, genuine talents, so that they're fully established by the time he hands over the reins.
I'm delighted there's no sentimentality involved in getting rid of this trio - I absolutely back him 100% for these sales (if they go through of course)
Average squad players are being replaced by better players. That can't be a bad thing.
We may as well pull in some cash for them. We can all see (hopefully) what Fergie is doing. He's getting the dead wood out, ageing players etc and replacing with promising youth, genuine talents, so that they're fully established by the time he hands over the reins.
I'm delighted there's no sentimentality involved in getting rid of this trio - I absolutely back him 100% for these sales (if they go through of course)
Average squad players are being replaced by better players. That can't be a bad thing.
12 million for those 3 is a nice little brucey bonus, meaning wed basically have signed an absolute beast of a player in Jones for 3 million net whilst ridding ourselves of deadwood.
Fergie is a legend.
Fergie is a legend.
I think we should include a buy-back clause for Gibbo!
How much do you think we should make it? 35 packets of strepsils and a cuban cigar?
I think he should be banned from Old Trafford once he's sold tbh
Gibson and Brown no, but that's a bit harsh on O'Shea. He's been invaluable over the years when injuries have hit our defence (as they often have with Rio, Wes and the twins all being rather injury-prone).
But if we're going to keep all three of Smalling, Evans and Jones, we really do have to open up the fullback spots (and maybe defensive midfield) to give them enough games. Combine those three with Rio, Vidic, Evra, Rafael and Fabio, and that leaves us 8 very good defenders - 3 of them either at or just over their peak, and another 5 that all need games. All of them potentially (and arguably already) better than O'Shea, so sadly he may well have to make way for the new blood.
Anyone reckon Fergie may move for a full back if this comes off?
Obviously both Rafael and Fabio can play there and Evans can also cover at left back. Heard a few whispers before that they've supposedly been watching the Right back from Ajax.
Obviously both Rafael and Fabio can play there and Evans can also cover at left back. Heard a few whispers before that they've supposedly been watching the Right back from Ajax.
That was my point re: O'Shea.
He's a limited player, doeshis best etc but we have better options and I think with him approaching 30, he's definitely surplus to requirements.
He's a limited player, doeshis best etc but we have better options and I think with him approaching 30, he's definitely surplus to requirements.
Van der Wiel ? I wouldn't rank him above the two Brazilians
To me it is really at left-back that we need cover, and very few promising left-backs are on the market right now.
Left back we have Evra, Fabio & Evans. Even Giggs can play there. I think we're ok in that position.
Smalling can also cover rightback (he played pretty damn well there in a few cameo's late in the season). Jones can supposedly play along the backline, but I have no idea how well he can play in each position. So I doubt it.
We can rely on Evans and Smalling to cover at fullback if we bring in Jones as another CB. Not to mention Valencia/Fletcher are capable of covering at RB, while Giggs can put in a shift at LB. Not ideal, but not exactly bare bones either.
I really don't think we will sell O'Shea.
I think you're wrong. He's also a big earner, so that's that off the wage bill.
I do understand the attachment to O'Shea from an emotional sentimental viewpoint hes been at the club a long time and been a useful squad player when called upon, but on a pure footballing ability level he really is way below United standard, i wont miss the hideous misplaced 3 yard passes into touch combined with the ball control of a 747.
But he's tall, though.
Yeah - £12 million I read and it said Uniteds Dutch Scouts had been watching him for a while.
I only say this as I'm surprised that Fergie is willing to let the versatile O'Shea go and rely on the two twins (one of whom is surely a better fit at Left Back) and Smalling as cover.
That said - both Rafael and Fabio look excellent and will hopefully be regulars for a long time to come.
Er what? Fabio and Evans are right-footed, Evans isn't even a full-back, I mean what kind of a backup is that
We need to get someone out of our hat... Let's go for Criscito
woops just seen Criscito signed for Napoli yesterday... well that's that theres no left-back prospect on the market right now
unless we're buying a 16 or a 36 year old I just don't know how we will provide Evra with some competition
unless we're buying a 16 or a 36 year old I just don't know how we will provide Evra with some competition
Evans has quite often played at left back over the years for us, Sunderland and the national team.
Fabio has spent most of his career at leftback.