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Ugh, Madrid will be dying to make it look like there's a 'battle for Pogba', so that, when they buy him it'll look even better for them.
Oh the irony...They are still both error prone and Stones was coming off a summer of turmoil, the bottom line is both are young and have raw aspects to their games, but the double standards for the English player is clear.
Oh the irony...
I'd recommend a mirror.
Personally think Stones is better than Baily when all things are considered. People will get to see this next season.Defense is not where you expect a young player to be ready from the get go.
I saw Bailly in the last nations cup and he didn't strike me as someone who is a top defender.people will get to see this next season,he is mostly physical attributes and pairing him with Smalling is disaster waiting to happen.The cafe will jump on you and harras you if you question the special ones decision as he is the all knowing but we shall see.
Some crap stuff like a defender is primarily there to defend, I call it nonsense as you will come to see that most top teams in europe have defenders with good technical abilities.
If a defender is primarily there to defend while then do you need the whole team e.g the Wide forward to defend and midfielders and attackers to put a defensive shift.Why not everybody concentrate on his job?
Football has evolved and ball playing defenders are becoming more important component of a top team,full backs must be as good defensively as they are attacking, the game has changed!
Ok, let me get this right. If a player is linked to United he is class but as soon as City are in for him , he is crap? Ed, put these poor muppets out of their misery!
Fairly even overall, any passing stats?
What?
He's beating him in defensive errors, errors leading to goals, tackles won, interceptions and clearances. That's five pretty important stats for a central defender. How's it fairly even? English bias works both ways.
Personally think Stones is better than Baily when all things are considered. People will get to see this next season.Defense is not where you expect a young player to be ready from the get go.
I saw Bailly in the last nations cup and he didn't strike me as someone who is a top defender.people will get to see this next season,he is mostly physical attributes and pairing him with Smalling is disaster waiting to happen.The cafe will jump on you and harras you if you question the special ones decision as he is the all knowing but we shall see.
Some crap stuff like a defender is primarily there to defend, I call it nonsense as you will come to see that most top teams in europe have defenders with good technical abilities.
If a defender is primarily there to defend while then do you need the whole team e.g the Wide forward to defend and midfielders and attackers to put a defensive shift.Why not everybody concentrate on his job?
Football has evolved and ball playing defenders are becoming more important component of a top team,full backs must be as good defensively as they are attacking, the game has changed!
Of course a defender is there to defend but technical ability is becoming more and more important and Barcelona,Real Madrid or Bayern will not have a player of Smalling ' s technical ability in defense, and if he must play he should be paired with someone that will compensate for his poor technique. Teams are becoming very good in pressing from the front and Smalling has shown he can't live with that . Personally don't think a pairing of Bailly and Smalling is ideal.Of course a defender's job primarily to defend. They're called DEFENDERS for a reason.
All the best teams of the past few years have had CBs who can defend very well, and the best of the best have defenders who can defend well and pass out. But defence is the priority for all of them. Look at Barca with Pique and previously Puyol. Bayern with Boateng and whoever was beside him when they won the treble. Real Madrid with Ramos and Pepe. When we won the Champions league we had Rio and Vidic. ALL of these players can defend very well, and defence was their priority over passing out the back. Yes the best of them could play with the ball at their feet well but it was not their priority over actual defending.
So true, diarm. Even if it's only for another season.Stones is an idiot if he leaves just after Koeman arrives. He has plenty of time to join a big club (proper big club, not City) and I'm sure if finances are an issue, Evertons new owners would only be happy to give his contract a boost.
There is no better manager for him to train under for a couple of years. Learn from one of the best exponents of his style of defending ever, and then as he really begins to meet his potential, he can move to a giant like Barca, Real, Bayern or United.
Le Parisien say PSG & Unai Emery have agreed a 3-year contract. Announcement unlikely before next week as talks with Laurent Blanc continue.
Le Parisien say PSG & Unai Emery have agreed a 3-year contract. Announcement unlikely before next week as talks with Laurent Blanc continue.
Atleti want Diego Costa, but as long as Chelsea haven't lined up a replacement nothing is going to happen. They are hoping for a domino effect – Morata to Chelsea, Costa back to Atleti.
Griezmann to United?
Atleti want Diego Costa, but as long as Chelsea haven't lined up a replacement nothing is going to happen. They are hoping for a domino effect – Morata to Chelsea, Costa back to Atleti.
That's so nice and kind-hearted of them.
Stones may come good. Bailly may flop. It's all speculation. All we can do is judge both players on their previous seasons. Bailly's was good, Stones' was shite. We've not seen Bailly's game dip to the levels that Stones' game did this past season.There's virtually nothing between them in those stats, it's not like one is massively ahead of the other in any of the categories bar Bailly on interceptions and Stones with less fouls.
Yeah they're all shit now!Has the Caf's love-in from a year or two ago with Everton's defence finally evaporated ?
When it was good, it was good. When it's shite, it's shite.Has the Caf's love-in from a year or two ago with Everton's defence finally evaporated ?
Has the Caf's love-in from a year or two ago with Everton's defence finally evaporated ?
Madrid would sell him to Chelsea for 40m ish . Nailed onMadrid won't sell Morata to Chelsea as they'd be helping Atletico.
Because Ibra is 5 times the player he is.Why is he scared?