Television Suits

So predictable, ugh. Don't know why I bother anymore.
 
Louis fecking up.
Ahh.

I saw your post earlier before I watched the episode and figured Donna was gonna end up back with Harvey.

I hope they stick it out though, the new secretary (can't remember her name, her from Scrubs) seems like she could be a good addition.
 
Just two boys fighting over a girl. Two boys in their 40s. Strong storyline
 
Very good so far this season, except Mike's hair.

Definately. They've actually fleshed out the characters a bit more. The new up and coming asshole lawyer is interesting as well. Not Hardman evil but smart.

Enjoying this season immensely, not looking forward to the stupid USA mid season break.
 
I watched this about 2 years ago for a while, it was season 2 or 3 I think. I thought the plot and character development was really good. I just couldn't get over how every other line was as though it was written for the trailer rather than a show...people just constantly firing one liners at each other or setting each other up for a really grabbing sound bite.

Is the dialogue ok now, should I give it another go?
 
I watched this about 2 years ago for a while, it was season 2 or 3 I think. I thought the plot and character development was really good. I just couldn't get over how every other line was as though it was written for the trailer rather than a show...people just constantly firing one liners at each other or setting each other up for a really grabbing sound bite.

Is the dialogue ok now, should I give it another go?

Yeah I would. This latest series has moved away from the cliche one liners and is so far very promising.
 
This season so far has been a huge improvement over the slump of the last few.

A number of interesting angles, week to week cases underneath an overall arch rather than a single story line, and a well written shake up with Donna moving to Luis.

The therapist stuff has been a little cliché, but still done nicely and they tied it into this latest case well.
 
I hope Louis triumphs at something soon. Four seasons and counting of him either totally screwing up everything or playing into this weird, pathetic inferiority complex with Harvey. Even when it looks like he's about pull of something great, it predictably comes crashing down in typical paranoid Louis style. Have no idea why he is still employed there, let alone name partner.

They should give him 3-4 episodes where he is absolutely bossing it and really earns Harvey and Jessica's respect.
 
I hope Louis triumphs at something soon. Four seasons and counting of him either totally screwing up everything or playing into this weird, pathetic inferiority complex with Harvey. Even when it looks like he's about pull of something great, it predictably comes crashing down in typical paranoid Louis style. Have no idea why he is still employed there, let alone name partner.

They should give him 3-4 episodes where he is absolutely bossing it and really earns Harvey and Jessica's respect.
Because he threatened to expose Mike.
 
Because he threatened to expose Mike.

Ah, yes. I had forgotten about that. But Harvey (and the firm in general) has faced and beaten bigger obstacles than Louis threatening to expose Mike. Jessica is powerful and it's very unlike her to allow someone bully her into doing something she doesn't want to do.
 
I agree with Lizzi. Through the whole series they talk about him like he is great lawyer, especially earlier in the show, one who does his job as good as Harvey(they actually said this few times earlier in the show), but he never really proved that. All he does is messing up something really bad, he deserved to be fired long time ago before he even found out about Mike.
 
Luis has had some moments of glory, but I agree they are somewhat few and far between.

He seems to have turned a corner in this latest episode though, trying to be magnanimous with Jack and working as a team with Mike etc, so hopefully they'll not have him screw up this time.

The season has been much better, so perhaps they'll get it right with him too.
 
Luis has had some moments of glory, but I agree they are somewhat few and far between.

He seems to have turned a corner in this latest episode though, trying to be magnanimous with Jack and working as a team with Mike etc, so hopefully they'll not have him screw up this time.

The season has been much better, so perhaps they'll get it right with him too.

Donna has been a positive influence on him, but they make it seem like thinking rationally and doing the right thing goes against every bone in his body. He just finds it so hard to not be petty and jealous, even when he knows the thing he's about to do is stupid and will cost the firm money, he can't stop himself.
This has Donna straightening him out, helping him to the top, gaining everyone's respect, only for everything to come crashing down when she inevitably goes back to Harvey written all over it. A typically bitter Louis leaves to join a rival firm
 
I've started watching this as my easy, background, time passing fluff show now I've burned through all 7 seasons of Castle. It's very well made, the two leads are eminently charasmatic and the music is fantastic, but I also sort of hate it. It's the kind of show where the good guys and bad guys aren't defined by doing good or bad things, but by how cool and attractive the show wants you to think they are. And since the whole show is premised on the idea of them breaking the rules to suit themselves, any villan with a similar M.O doesn't really land, proving you're not blinded by well tailored cool walking hero shots set to The Heavy.

So while Gabriel Macht is fantastically suave, Harvey Specter is such a dick swinging teachers pet, who bends the rules frequently but throws his toys out of the pram like an entitled douche whenever anyone opposing him does, that I instinctively want him to lose all his cases, and Jessica is such a useless, mean spirited, nepotistic boss that I naturally want Hardman to screw her out of the company. Consequenty I've settled into an enjoyable way of watching where I actively root against all the main characters.

I'm now early into season 3 of a parallel show about the hardworking, loyal, sensitive and put upon hero Louis, and his struggles against his bitch boss and bullying co-worker, and the brave, competent English law film riding in to save this criminally corrupt company.
 
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To be fair, Mockney's show sounds equally as entertaining :lol:

Also, I concur with people up the page... this season has been a huge return to form.
 
Well it turns out the valiant English firm got shafted - surprise surprise - after the evil duo of Jessia Rabid and Harvey Two-Face repaid the kind, honorable Darby's gesture of winning them the case by sacrificing his good name, by stabbing him in the back and inserting a snidey clause in the deal. Then they sat smugly cackling about it around a big table like supervillains in thier volcano holiday home. This was after Harvey had tried to betray Jessica, itself only a handful of episodes after tearing the noble and heroic Louis to peices for being unloyal. There was some rubbish about a murderous lawyer in there - who had made Harvey act like a giant bitch baby throughout for sleeping with his bestest fwend - presumably because the writers realised their main characters were all such ghastly pricks they'd have to write someone even more ridiculous into it to make this victory even remotely palatable.

I'm assuming this is going to go down like Breaking Bad? Where this self satisfied, criminally corrupt shower of cnuts get more and more powerful through nefarious means before eventually being brought down wholesale in an epic final season. That's what happens, right? I fail to see how it could go any other way.
 
Out of all that, I got "Castle"! Someone else who watches it as well! Like that show, as much "fluff" as it is. Beckett you beauty :drool:

I think there are a few on here that do (well me, plus maybe 2 other people... somewhere) as Mockney says... time passing fluff at its finest.

Didn't love last season of it mind - namely because I wasn't too into the "Where Castle disappeared too" stuff, and I was left underwhelmed by the 3XK episodes (just because of how great 3XK is!) - though like every season of Castle, there's still some fun episodes poking around here and there.
 
I think there are a few on here that do (well me, plus maybe 2 other people... somewhere) as Mockney says... time passing fluff at its finest.

Didn't love last season of it mind - namely because I wasn't too into the "Where Castle disappeared too" stuff, and I was left underwhelmed by the 3XK episodes (just because of how great 3XK is!) - though like every season of Castle, there's still some fun episodes poking around here and there.
Yeah, agreed. Compared to previous seasons, they sorta also missed an "underlying" mystery/villain. But yeah, it is what it is - well made fluff. And Alexis isn't too bad either :drool:
 
Castle is rubbish when it tries to be a serious hard boiled cop drama, since it's based on the ridiculous premise of the NYPD allowing a hack writer to spend seven years palling around with them, solving all their crimes and fecking their lead detectives. When it's daft, it's just an excuse to watch Nathan Fillion be Nathan Fillion in a myriad of silly set ups, which is usually good fun. I'd root for Nathan Fillion whatever he was doing. Even if he was playing one of the horrible cnuts on Suits.
 
Castle is rubbish when it tries to be a serious hard boiled cop drama, since it's based on the ridiculous premise of the NYPD allowing a hack writer to spend seven years palling around with them, solving all their crimes and fecking their lead detectives. When it's daft, it's just an excuse to watch Nathan Fillion be Nathan Fillion in a myriad of silly set ups, which is usually good fun. I'd root for Nathan Fillion whatever he was doing. Even if he was playing one of the horrible cnuts on Suits.
It wouldn't as long as 7 seasons if they didn't include the boring drama part. But its quite a fun watch ignoring bits of it.