Television Suits

I haven't even started on GoT yet. Looks like I have to postpone it because of that spoiler
That's gunna be 1 hell of a postponement, you've got 5 seasons to get through. :lol:
 
I haven't even started on GoT yet. Looks like I have to postpone it because of that spoiler
Me too, and I'm really annoyed as I literally just spent from the end of July until now watching from the very start to the end of series 4 of Suits only to find out that now I have to make a choice of sticking with this or starting GoT from the very beginning.

Is it really that much of a big deal (or potential spoiler for someone who has not watched GoT yet) I'm pretty sure GoT has been mentioned twice in Series 4 already anyway?

It's not like any of the cast were in Game of Thrones is it! Edward Darby & Eva Hessington apart
 
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Me too, and I'm really annoyed as I literally just spent from the end of July until now watching from the very start to the end of series 4 of Suits only to find out that now I have to make a choice of sticking with this or starting GoT from the very beginning.

Is it really that much of a big deal (or potential spoiler for someone who has not watched GoT yet) I'm pretty sure GoT has been mentioned twice in Series 4 already anyway?

It's not like any of the cast were in Game of Thrones is it! Edward Darby & Eva Hessington apart
It is definitely a spoiler but if it were me knowing what I know about both it wouldn't stop me from enjoying suits and then starting Game of Thrones when I feel like it. There's a whole lot more to the 5 seasons than merely the finale of season 5 (not to mention the finale is by no means the end game of Game of Thrones anyway), also Game of Thrones is a lot bigger scale than suits so spoiling one story isn't as big because of all the other stories going on at the same time. If someone were to say Harvey does something at the end of season whatever then it's much more spoiler worthy for Suits cause he's THE main part. Try and imagine it's a spoiler about Harvey in a universe where Suits covers all the law firms in New York not just Pearson- don't want to spoil named partners for anyone who hasn't seen Suits yet.
 
It is definitely a spoiler but if it were me knowing what I know about both it wouldn't stop me from enjoying suits and then starting Game of Thrones when I feel like it. There's a whole lot more to the 5 seasons than merely the finale of season 5 (not to mention the finale is by no means the end game of Game of Thrones anyway), also Game of Thrones is a lot bigger scale than suits so spoiling one story isn't as big because of all the other stories going on at the same time. If someone were to say Harvey does something at the end of season whatever then it's much more spoiler worthy for Suits cause he's THE main part. Try and imagine it's a spoiler about Harvey in a universe where Suits covers all the law firms in New York not just Pearson- don't want to spoil named partners for anyone who hasn't seen Suits yet.
Cheers!
 
This season started so well but the last two episodes have been poor and very poor respectively.

Hardman and Forstman coming back into it is boring.
 
This season started so well but the last two episodes have been poor and very poor respectively.

Hardman and Forstman coming back into it is boring.

It's like they went back to a safe writing mode with similar plots and similar villains of previous seasons. What made this season good is the character development of Harvey and it feels completely brushed aside now.
 
It's like they went back to a safe writing mode with similar plots and similar villains of previous seasons. What made this season good is the character development of Harvey and it feels completely brushed aside now.
Yep, they've fallen back into crappy habits.
 
It's like they went back to a safe writing mode with similar plots and similar villains of previous seasons. What made this season good is the character development of Harvey and it feels completely brushed aside now.

I haven't seen the latest episode yet, but Mike's 'secret' is annoying now. Obviously it's one of the cornerstone's of the plot, but I bet the writers feel a bit hamstrung by it now. Also, given that the firm only accepts Harvard grads...it is inconceivable that people wouldn't know that he never went there.
 
I haven't seen the latest episode yet, but Mike's 'secret' is annoying now. Obviously it's one of the cornerstone's of the plot, but I bet the writers feel a bit hamstrung by it now. Also, given that the firm only accepts Harvard grads...it is inconceivable that people wouldn't know that he never went there.

Yes, same plots, same storyline are preventing this show from taking another direction. It can be tiresome, Mike's secret should be revealed to everyone and the firm should deal with the consequence.
 
Yes, same plots, same storyline are preventing this show from taking another direction. It can be tiresome, Mike's secret should be revealed to everyone and the firm should deal with the consequence.

That would be pretty cool actually - see the firm almost destroyed and lose most of their power but left with a core of Harvey, Louis, Jessica, Donna etc who try and build it back up. It could focus back on their abilities and force them to work together.

I still really enjoy the show, but the bits I like most are the interplay between the characters, rather than the big, dramatic plotlines. Was the same with shows like ER and The West Wing. They all start to feel as though they need huge plots / events to generate interest, when one attracted people in the first instance were the characters and the writing. The West Wing is perhaps the show I like best, but my favourite episodes were ones when they were trying to get a bill passed, or something smaller key, as opposed to the ones where the President's daughter was kidnapped, for example.
 
If Mike's secret came out, there would be no firm. It's not a convenience store they're running, it's a law firm.

They'd be seriously looking at being struck off. End of show, end of suits.
 
It's like they went back to a safe writing mode with similar plots and similar villains of previous seasons. What made this season good is the character development of Harvey and it feels completely brushed aside now.

Yeah I agree it's annoying that he has just magically appeared ok again now they have brought the 2 same ol' villains back.
 
They need to just ditch the 'Mike's secret' story once and for all, and have it never come up again.

It might be a bit convenient for it to never be an issue again, but that would still make for a better show than the way it's starting to go again now.

This season (last 2 eps aside) seemed to have done that for the most part, and had moved on in a good way. The psychiatrist was a good character and helped make Harvey a better character as well, and Donna moving to Louis worked too.

The stuff with Rachel and her mum over the wedding was painful, and bringing back Hardman just reeks of 'we're out of ideas'.
 
They need to just ditch the 'Mike's secret' story once and for all, and have it never come up again.

It might be a bit convenient for it to never be an issue again, but that would still make for a better show than the way it's starting to go again now.

This season (last 2 eps aside) seemed to have done that for the most part, and had moved on in a good way. The psychiatrist was a good character and helped make Harvey a better character as well, and Donna moving to Louis worked too.

The stuff with Rachel and her mum over the wedding was painful, and bringing back Hardman just reeks of 'we're out of ideas'.

Agree, They just need to bury it for a while, even if it is for a season or 2. At this point it's like being hit repeatedly in the face with a wet fish.

They need to just put Hardman in jail or something to keep him away because him popping up all the time is boring. Surely there should be a rival firm or something they could go head to head with rather than bringing back Hardman all the time.

Fantasy booking here but I think it would of been good if they had pushed the Harvey illness further to the point he had to temporarily leave the firm on illness, and document his struggles in getting back to his high position in the firm and with clients once he returns. Could of even pushed someone like Malone and put him in Harvey's role and have him try to keep it permanently once Harvey returned.
 
They need to just ditch the 'Mike's secret' story once and for all, and have it never come up again.

It might be a bit convenient for it to never be an issue again, but that would still make for a better show than the way it's starting to go again now.

This season (last 2 eps aside) seemed to have done that for the most part, and had moved on in a good way. The psychiatrist was a good character and helped make Harvey a better character as well, and Donna moving to Louis worked too.

The stuff with Rachel and her mum over the wedding was painful, and bringing back Hardman just reeks of 'we're out of ideas'.

I fecking hate Hardman. Jeff was getting on my good side too and now I'm wondering what the hell Hardman's pulled.
 
It's a show, so it just depends on where the writers wanna take it.

It is a show, but if the firm isn't closed down once Mike's 'secret' is revealed, it just wouldn't be realistic at all.

Would be a great storyline to close the show though, Mike's secret becomes known, he goes to prison, the firm gets shut and everyone who knew also faces prison time.
 
I've no idea why the feck they're rehashing the old Hartman/Mike's secret/Mike and Rachel will they/won't they bullshit, it's so tired and boring at this stage.

I thought the season was going really well, Harvey's issues, fighting internally over the firm and Jack was a good 'villain' to have against them. As well as going back to having good, weekly cases, which is when the show was always at its best. Not sure why the feck they had to put all that aside (and turn Jack into Hardman's little puppet) for this shit.
 
Would be a great storyline to close the show though, Mike's secret becomes known, he goes to prison, the firm gets shut and everyone who knew also faces prison time.
And Harvey runs away and becomes a lumberjack in Alaska. Awesome, I'd love to see that.
 
It is a show, but if the firm isn't closed down once Mike's 'secret' is revealed, it just wouldn't be realistic at all.

Would be a great storyline to close the show though, Mike's secret becomes known, he goes to prison, the firm gets shut and everyone who knew also faces prison time.

I don't think it's even that realistic but besides let's imagine the firm closing down, this could actually be something completely new to work on for the writers. Just something different from the same plots they keep using over and over again.
 
I don't think it's even that realistic but besides let's imagine the firm closing down, this could actually be something completely new to work on for the writers. Just something different from the same plots they keep using over and over again.

Agreed, would be great viewing too.
 
I'm getting a bit sick of all the great one liners but lack of new content. It's all the same shit. Drama between Mike and Rachel, Mike's secret, other old enemies coming back with new plans and new tricks. Really hope they can get something new in soon, it's getting anoying.
 
I'm getting a bit sick of all the great one liners but lack of new content. It's all the same shit. Drama between Mike and Rachel, Mike's secret, other old enemies coming back with new plans and new tricks. Really hope they can get something new in soon, it's getting anoying.
The one liners were getting very annoying in the last two seasons but they've dialed back on them a bit recently. There are actual conversations now, from time to time. I agree about the rest though. They are trying, to be fair. There's the Donna thing, Harvey's problems etc. I like that, as it seems to indicate some attempt of character development which is refreshing. There's been literally none so far, in the last 3 seasons. Jessica and Luis's character arcs would best be represented by a circle. Rachel, Mike and Harvey (hopeful indications for change there) are not much different.
 
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The one liners were getting very annoying in the last two seasons but they've dialed back on them a bit recently. There are actual conversations now, from time to time. I agree about the rest though. They are trying, to be fair. There's the Donna thing, Harvey's problems etc. but the rest is quite repetitive. Especially Luis's character. It's going in circles since season 2.
Indeed. The best bit all season was Harvey being vulnerable for once.
 
I haven't seen the latest episode yet, but Mike's 'secret' is annoying now. Obviously it's one of the cornerstone's of the plot, but I bet the writers feel a bit hamstrung by it now. Also, given that the firm only accepts Harvard grads...it is inconceivable that people wouldn't know that he never went there.
This. And the the threat of a background check is ridiculous because that computer hacker back in season 1 entered him fully in to the Harvard computer as a graduate.

Its blatantly obvious Mike and Rachel aren't getting married.
 
OK, 2 into series 5 and I'm already not buying something here
Donna as Louis' secretary. With all the shit he's pulled in two episodes, she'd have already gone back IMHO … and the reaction to finding out that Harvey had been paying her salary for god knows how many years was just wrong
Other than that there's only Mikes new hair to comment on – which there is no point spoilering – as it's mentioned liberally here and it's actually something that I have been patiently waiting to see for ages!
 
Litt's sister :drool:
Damn! Knew I shouldn't have gone back and read some of the comments from the start of series 5. I got carried away with laughing at all the fuss over Mikes "do" and spoilered myself! :(
EDIT: Can't stop watching this bloody show. On Ep4 now and think I've met the sister if it's
ROOT from Person of Interest!
 
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Damn! Knew I shouldn't have gone back and read some of the comments from the start of series 5. I got carried away with laughing at all the fuss over Mikes "do" and spoilered myself! :(
EDIT: Can't stop watching this bloody show. On Ep4 now and think I've met the sister if it's
ROOT from Person of Interest!
Yep! :drool: