Overtook Buffy's "The Body" episode as the best TV episode to depict death of a major character
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Which scene was it?
I wanted to watch this but my wife's been watching it from the start and I pretty much know most of what happens... In that weird place of whether I can spend 40 hours to catch up... Probably not.
Yes… but you sound delusional.
I sound… what, am I being out-fecking-voted here?
love Roman
I sound… what, am I being out-fecking-voted here?
love RomanAccusations now that the actor who plays Greg is a child abusing pervert.
Wild episode. So masterful.... these characters are so utterly out of whack and cringey up in their ivory towers and in the response to Logan, they absolutely delivered on it in almost every way while actually making them briefly relatable. An absolute ballsy move to do it 7 episodes out too. Cox has been fantastic.
"Oh he's heavily fecking delayed"
You know it's bad when Carl brings out the sass
You know it's bad when Carl brings out the sass
Seen that. Fecking hell
The "Chuckles the clown" line made me laugh out loud after nearly crying the acting was that good
The pilot can’t speak to you right now Ken… he’s flying the plane son
The "Chuckles the clown" line made me laugh out loud after nearly crying the acting was that good
right after toms perfect line about her looking like she caught a foul ball at yankee stadium
Greatest show of all time.
Killing Logan off now makes perfect sense, I was expecting it in E09 or E10 but I like it this way partly for the shock value - having no build up to it was just brilliant - but also because the whole show is about his succession and he already made clear he wouldn’t be handing it over to the kids so now we see how it plays out without him.
Killing Logan off now makes perfect sense, I was expecting it in E09 or E10 but I like it this way partly for the shock value - having no build up to it was just brilliant - but also because the whole show is about his succession and he already made clear he wouldn’t be handing it over to the kids so now we see how it plays out without him.
I want to know who Geri could have been on the phone to when Roman needed to use that room. Her lawyer?
I've just googled Nicholas Braun and can't find anything on this. Where did you hear this?
I find it incredible that that came out 2 days ago and not a single hit came up in the Google search I did. Very strange considering the gravity of the accusation.
Same. Put in the actor's name & 'child abuse' & got nothing.
e - 'sexual abuse' gives me a shitload of info.
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I havent read much further into it, and its always dangerous to make assumptions, but the girl in this tik tok video doesnt have any sort of compelling evidence whatsoever?
That was phenomenal.
The use of a handheld camera following the siblings on the boat as everything was going on was so good, and it seemed like a massive single take for a lot of it?
Just fantastic all around, so damned good.
The use of a handheld camera following the siblings on the boat as everything was going on was so good, and it seemed like a massive single take for a lot of it?
Just fantastic all around, so damned good.
It was. Usually scenes last 2/3 pages per take. That one was 27. I'm struggling to think of a better episode of tv. The hodor episode in GOT is the only thing really springing to mind.
It’s definitely right up there as one of the best single episodes of TV.
Ozymandias, Crawl Space, Pine Barrons, 2 Cathedrals are a few individual episodes that spring to mind as being among the best, and this is with them.
Oh I love this topic - greatest episodes of TV! Off the top of my head:
Better Call Saul - Bagman (the desert episode)
The Leftovers - Lens (Nora and Erika in an acting masterclass); International Assassin (the first underworld episode)
The Sopranos - Pine Barrens; Long-Term Parking (Adrianna episode); I Dream of Jeannie Cusomano (season 1 finale)
The Wire - Middle Ground (season 3, penultimate); That's Got His Own (season 4 penultimate)
Breaking Bad - One Minute (Hank and the twins - possibly the most stressful end of episode I've ever seen); Crawl Space (the one where Walt realizes just how fecked he is and starts laughing maniacally)
Game of Thrones - Blackwater
Mad Men - The Suitcase (Don and Peggy basically in his office for the whole episode, if I remember correctly)
The Last of Us - Long, Long Time
True Detective - Who Goes There (first season episode with the incredible single take during the raid)
Anyway, I'm sure I'm missing some, but those came to me now.
That True Detective episode is also in my pantheon of perfect TV episodes.
Agreed. I feel it kind of peaked with that episode and went noticeably downhill after.
International Assassin was my first thought. The finale (The Book of Nora) was incredible too. I'd also add This Extraordinary Being and A God Walks into Abar from Watchmen.
Also Why We Fight from Band of Brothers.
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What the feck did this episode just put me through. That was just insane tv.
Watching it with my old man and he's skeptical about the death still
Watching it with my old man and he's skeptical about the death still
What the feck did this episode just put me through. That was just insane tv.
Watching it with my old man and he's skeptical about the death still
I actually was too until the body bag was taken off the plane. I half wondered if they would blue light him to hospital and he’d be on life support for a couple of episodes but that would have sucked because they’ve already done that - although a bit of symmetry to season one I guessThought it was another stupid test. I both love and hate the way they did this.What the feck did this episode just put me through. That was just insane tv.
Watching it with my old man and he's skeptical about the death still
I feel like there’s an episode or two from Boardwalk Empire, Rectify, The Shield, and Justified in there as well.
I was probably convinced for half of that scene that it was Logans excuse for not being at connors wedding, and they were just pretending to give chest compressions. I think the fact the kids don't get to see there dad, and the viewer doesnt get to see logans face, is just genius writing.
Some of these are amazing, but others are probably a bit easier to act in. Blackwater was amazing TV but so much of it is CGI, and a lot of it just a battle scene. The cinematography is what makes it so special.
Feel like battle scenes in TV's and movies need their own best ever category.
I just realized this is maybe why they gave Brian Cox that incredible speech scene last episode.
For sure - I’m just coming from the perspective of best episodes in general - some are acting (the Mad Men episode); some are production (Blackwater); some are story advancement (I Dream of Jeanie Cusomano), etc.
Yeah they all deserve to be at the very top.
If you have a chance to listen/watch the episode recap that is played after the credits and the podcast, I highly recommend.
They shot the entire scene on the boat and going back and forth through rooms, inside, outside, etc. on a continuous film on one take, as others have already mentioned. The directors mentioned that they strategically stashed film throughout the boat, would load up the camera before it ends (each film only has 10 minutes of recording), and proceed.
The visceral reactions, the cuts in and out of the characters, the dialogue, the choppy cell service, Shiv still being a cnut when she could, and then even the awareness of Shiv hugging Tom then disengaging because of what's going on and the look of sadness, dispair, mixed with disgust was fantastic. Each character had a dilemna or 3 going all at once.
They shot the entire scene on the boat and going back and forth through rooms, inside, outside, etc. on a continuous film on one take, as others have already mentioned. The directors mentioned that they strategically stashed film throughout the boat, would load up the camera before it ends (each film only has 10 minutes of recording), and proceed.
The visceral reactions, the cuts in and out of the characters, the dialogue, the choppy cell service, Shiv still being a cnut when she could, and then even the awareness of Shiv hugging Tom then disengaging because of what's going on and the look of sadness, dispair, mixed with disgust was fantastic. Each character had a dilemna or 3 going all at once.
It's great how we, the viewer, were just as confused and shocked as Kendall, Roman and Shiv. We didn't get a cliché shot of Logan clutching his chest on the plane or anything like that, just messy second-hand info.
Fecking brilliant TV.
Fecking brilliant TV.
Wasn’t expecting that.
Absolute tour de fecking force of a stand-alone episode of television.
Absolute tour de fecking force of a stand-alone episode of television.
The "Chuckles the clown" line made me laugh out loud after nearly crying the acting was that good
I was literally crying & laughing simultaneously a couple of times.
TIL what ‘dramaturgically’ means.
Carl, Frank, and Karolina were so conflicted and yet helpless, so they had to focus on what the market, the business, board, etc. were interested in. It seemed to show that they've all been through this process in the mind and collectively since Logan has had previous health scares, especially back in season 1.
But the fact that Roman fired Geri, but nothing was in writing no NDA, etc. and then you see Roman have to boot her out of the room for a private call, in which Roman verbally says he's sad and hurt, but still doesn't get the affection (a hug) was all kinds of fecked up shit.
But the fact that Roman fired Geri, but nothing was in writing no NDA, etc. and then you see Roman have to boot her out of the room for a private call, in which Roman verbally says he's sad and hurt, but still doesn't get the affection (a hug) was all kinds of fecked up shit.