Yup exactly what it reads like. Bunch of uncles that must not speak to anyone younger than 40 in real life.
Sturridge - Sky’s new entertainer :(
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Funky bruv
Im not funky enough it seems
Not everyone is going to be a Carragher or Neville.
It would be incredibly stale and boring to have 4 tactical pundits on at any one time. Keane isn’t even up to their standard.
It’s just different strokes for different folks.
To be fair Daniel Sturridge became an ex footballer about 8 years ago.
He aint going nowhere, the twitter masses love him.
Getting absolute pelters from what I’ve seen. The only ‘funny’ meme going around is Keane’s face reaction
Yeah but you’d expect it to at least relate to the topic. A person speaking about the game can appeal to anyone. It’s a person talking. If someone is on there to specifically appeal to people who enjoy what the majority would call cringe then that’s a pretty niche audience they’re catering for.
If the characters on your favourite show suddenly got replaced by some people who just busted into dance moves every 5 minutes and spoke in weird accents would you just be like “well it’s not for me. And that’s ok”.
I don’t even really watch the analysis but it’s still not a great sign that they’re another one slowly going down the route of ‘engagement engagement engagement’. Even worse that there’s so many grown adults willing to embarrass themselves on a regular basis to be on TV.
Classic punditry is constrained to podcasts and certain radio shows, and mainstream TV punditry is just going to be a circus.
Ironic considering Sky’s latest marketing campaign is circus based.
Ironic considering Sky’s latest marketing campaign is circus based.
it is so true and Red cafe still somehow amazes me how annoyed and worked up people get with pundits and commentators.1. Yes, you may be correct.
2. I'm sure Sky do give a feck what their subscribers think, after all subscribers are dwindling and they need to retain as many as possible.
3. Yes, it could be ignored, but whats the point paying a lot of money to ignore a big percentage of it? I'm also sure thinking Sturridge is a bit of an annoying clown doesn't indicate your life is miserable.
Fair post Solius and I get it I'm just pushing back against all the nonsense. This stuff ain't for me either, I don't really listen to those guys for insight but sometimes it can be mildly entertaining. If I want insight I'll pop over to YouTube where there's a loads of videos for that....
It just feels like codgers complaining about things moving on and changing from what they know and like, which is kinda what they do.... but there's a wider world out there that clearly wants this stuff right?
I don't even use social media and I've got so much content at my fingertips, and productive and non-productive things that I could be doing (most of us do) that I don't get out of shape about it I just direct my attention elsewhere.
I genuinely think they see the traction and clicks that Youtube/Twitter content gets and see that as believing it's what the audience wants when in reality I think that certain media has a space. Might come across a bit snobby but I would like the matches to be prime punditry and if they want to have a bit more light hearted discussion then they can put a 30 min show on afterwards or make it and put it on YT or something.
Seems to be a big hit with younger viewers and getting a lot of hate from old geezers.
It needs to be said, Roy Keane is just as bad a pundit in a lot of ways. His analysis and insights into the actual game being played are more or less nonexistent. What saves him is that he has a good screen presence, bags of charisma and a good sense of humour. Literally none of which seems to apply to Sturridge, who has all the charisma of a wet fart.
Would be my preference as well (though to be honest, I barely even that much football anymore).
The level of analysis seems to be better in almost every other sport I watch so I imagine that isn't by accident and that's probably what most people want.
It's the old geezers that are still paying for sky. I can't imagine any young person not knowing of the various and awful ways of streaming on the internet.
Harsh on @Pexbo
And got both predictions wrong.
it’s strange cause Carragher and Neville are terrible commentators but great at punditry, then should be standing next to Keane
I disagree. Keano can be a bit predictable when teams do not perform well, going to the old cliches (which are often true, just not tactical analysis) but when teams perform well or individuals stand out he is pretty on the money with his praise and he'll pick out the ones who made the most difference. I'd say Keane would be the first to spot the importance of a Carrick or a Busquets.
Somebody at Sky headquarters looked at that and said "We have to get him!"
It does feel like old white guys deciding what kids would find cool and getting it completely wrong. Let’s not forget that Sturridge is 33, so not a kid himself.
100% like all forms of media these days. The internet has taken over the world and as long as you are in public view that’s all that matters, i doesn’t matter if what you’re saying is true or relevant.
Kids aint watching football punditry...
I'm guessing young adult that's into social media and the gram etc.... I don't care tbh
I'm not so sure. I think a lot of the time it's almost hate-watching. Like not being able to look away because it's so bad. I think they and the likes of Talksport rubs their hands when they get absolute weirdos on like Sturridge and Agbonlahor.
Good point.
Although I'm so old now I'm starting to think of young adults who are into the gram as kids...
Like Scholes who offers nothing?
Don't do that, unless you're a codger.... Swear you're younger than me!
I dunno, once I got around to watching it I didn't even think it was that bad. Just not that good either, but when was it? It's different strokes and it's rubbed some up the wrong way for various reasons....
I don't have Sky Sports so only tune in on a stream a few minutes before kick off. The punditry does nothing for me. It's not so much I think it's bad because fifteen or twenty years ago I'd tune in but it's more of getting older. The amount of time sitting and watching ex players discuss what could happen half an hour before the game can be spent doing something else better with the time.
Also when I was younger there was a feeling that the older pro's who I'd never seen as players and only knew as old heads on TV had something of authority which in hindsight is wrong because they came up with some whoppers too. But it's different now seeing the talking heads being people who you've seen their entire career play out and seeing them on TV now makes me think ... "if only you played half as good as you talk".
Also when I was younger there was a feeling that the older pro's who I'd never seen as players and only knew as old heads on TV had something of authority which in hindsight is wrong because they came up with some whoppers too. But it's different now seeing the talking heads being people who you've seen their entire career play out and seeing them on TV now makes me think ... "if only you played half as good as you talk".
I’m gonna put this thread on ignore and turn the TV off when this scouse cnut or the the next Sky attempt and being modern and relevant happens, hopefully it’ll just go away.
Just.....don't watch it. You'd think Sky forced people to watch the pundit bits with the way people rage. I stopped watching it religiously so many years ago, as I wasn't enjoying it and found it dull. It's also more often adverts instead of actual analysis.
I get people being annoyed by commentators a lot more, but the blokes/women who sit at halftime/fulltime for a few minutes? Nah. I've got even LESS sympathy for the sickos who watch the build up to games. Grow up, and turn it on a few minutes before kick off.
I get people being annoyed by commentators a lot more, but the blokes/women who sit at halftime/fulltime for a few minutes? Nah. I've got even LESS sympathy for the sickos who watch the build up to games. Grow up, and turn it on a few minutes before kick off.
Yeah but… somehow he’s the same as Micah and Sturridge…
Keane is a less tactical pundit than Micah Richards and is actually more of a click bait comment pundit than any of the others - it’s just that he does so in a way that you don’t happen to find ‘culturally challenging’.
That’s not a criticism of Keano btw, or of Sky. Just of the double standards at work here.
I like his football analysis but I think he's really trying too hard to be funny.
Did you not realised that you're a millenialsis too? here in my country we have politicians and experts blasted "millenials" for not wanting to work at farms but what these people failed to realise is that so called millenials in 2023 are people of the age 40-25, millenials are NOT frickin teenagers anymore.
Oh they do, many of them do.