He's never gonna drop either of them and you know it.
Actually, he won't have to drop Suarez 'cause he'll be at Madrid.
Steven Gerrard
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He's never gonna drop either of them and you know it.
Actually, he won't have to drop Suarez 'cause he'll be at Madrid.
He was absolute bobbins in that role again. I can not see what he brings to the role other than 2 good passes into the channel per game. Crap.
Said at he start Gerrard Jagielka and Hart were weak spots in this England team, well that proved correct tonight
He never fails to amaze me with his lack of football intelligence at some moments.
Champions league final 2005 - galvanised Liverpool.
FA Cup final 2006 - scored in the 90th minute with a screamer.
That's all I can think of. Other than that he's been the best player in a team of failures, up until last season when he was one of the worst players in Liverpool's first title challenging team in my life time. I don't believe Rooney has delivered at World Cups but if it wasn't for him England wouldn't be at it in the first place. Gerrard, however, has been consistently not-very-good for England and often shocking. Tonight's performance was his worst ever.
His speciality is gifting other teams the premier league title.Good lad, get the Liverpool lads (and that includes Lallana) home early and concentrate on his last chance of a league title. Genius, underestimated.
You play him in a midfield three or you din't play him at all. Hodgson is a joke, Stevie didn't cover himself in glory but he was clearly struggling out there. Jagielka should have dealt with Suarez better too he was equally to blame for that goal. He had big decisions to make and he didn't.
He's getting away with it all over again.
Whack your money on him being named manager after the World Cup, the guy is untouchable.
Whack your money on him being named manager after the World Cup, the guy is untouchable.
Amazing how they're all such perfectly weighted passes too. The strikers never have to break stride.
Stick a fork in him, he's done
I still don't understand how he managed to head it in that direction considering he was facing the complete opposite direction.
I was laughing when I saw him at edge of the Uruguay box, less than five yards away from another England player and rushed to the ball to pull off a terrible shot wide.
So typically Gerrard.
Galvanised is just another of people saying they remember Gerrard vaguely doing something and attribute the entire thing to him. He scored a vital header and dived for a penalty but it was all about Hamann and Alonso. Gerrard didn't really do much at all.
I'm with @Vialli_92 - I also think some of the criticism over going for the ball is a bit harsh - I agree he had to go for it. More concerned about the lack of cover behind him and the way Suarez was able to skip past defensive players. Having said that, he's been pretty awful most of the competition.
He's the embodiment of the England team. At the highest level he's a useless player at the heart of a useless system. If it weren't for the fact that I can hardly stand looking at the odious cnut I might've even said it ain't Capt'n Slipper's fault, it's that hideous feckin' owl mainly, who couldn't set up a team to save his life. Go away, the pair of you - just go away.
For all the reasons that Gerrard was poor today - that header for that goal is actually quite far down the list for me. Think Jags and Cahill are more culpable personally.
Comparing to the amount of crap Rooney has had to put up with for his performances, to the free ride Gerrard gets every time he step onto a football pitch...you just have to laugh.
Disgusting performance from Gerrard yesterday. A midfielder of his supposed calibre should be controlling the game, yet Henderson - a player who I don't really rate - was much more involved than Gerrard yesterday.
It's a joke how he gets away without criticism. Every single time. Seriously bad tonight and last Saturday.
I couldn't really care less who gets blamed by the media for England's latest fiasco, it's all just white noise anyway. Steven Gerrard has had a very bad tournament though, surely his last with the national side.
Its a joke he is picked considering the crazily consistent shite he serves in an England shirt, and its a joke he gets no criticism. This year could not be more of a treat for us, to see him play absolutely horribly.
Shit captain, and equally shit player (in this WC). And better players for his position didn't get a look just because he's a feckin captain. Won't be missed.
So this time he gave the ball to Suarez to stop Rooney and Welbeck winning the World Cup.
He really doesn't like United, does he?
He really doesn't like United, does he?
He also has a habit of having the same number of premier league medals as Steven hawking,
Absolutely 100% correct and exactly why England will not win the wc in my lifetime even if I live to be 100
Well, then Crystal Palace and Chelsea was were he let his standards slip didn't hhe.
Only in England can a player of his caliber be deemed 'World Class'. Never in his life. Don't give me that tosh.
How can you blame defenders for not expecting their own teammate to pass the ball to an opponent, who is in an offside position?
The biggest issue is that here is a guy, 34 years old, leading a supposedly 'young' England side at a World Cup with many members of the squad having absolutely no experience in tournament football whatsoever, and he's the most rash, untammed, panicky hot-head of the lot. His biggest cock-up in terms of what will define his captaincy and to some extend career with England was vs Italy:
1-1 just before half time, players with not 10% his experience at this level are retaining possession to see our the half and then the captain, the 'cool head' of the team gets the ball and does his typical 'Stevie Me' pass, thinking that these young bucks don't know they're born, deciding instead what was needed was to whack a ridiculous pass up the field and concede possession. If anything epitmoised his unsuitability for the role of England captain it wasn't the feck-up last night, it was when he showed that he can me the most senior member of the squad and still be the most naive player on the pitch.
1-1 just before half time, players with not 10% his experience at this level are retaining possession to see our the half and then the captain, the 'cool head' of the team gets the ball and does his typical 'Stevie Me' pass, thinking that these young bucks don't know they're born, deciding instead what was needed was to whack a ridiculous pass up the field and concede possession. If anything epitmoised his unsuitability for the role of England captain it wasn't the feck-up last night, it was when he showed that he can me the most senior member of the squad and still be the most naive player on the pitch.
There has to be a pro Scouse agenda in the media....It's insane.
Today, so far, it's all about "Awh poor Stevie. His last world cup".....
Yeah never mind he's been worse then Rooney for England....Honest to God, it's insane!!!
Today, so far, it's all about "Awh poor Stevie. His last world cup".....
Yeah never mind he's been worse then Rooney for England....Honest to God, it's insane!!!
In this World Cup I would agree but Gerrard has outshone Rooney in the last 2.
2006....A not even half fit Rooney. Gerrard missing a penalty and doing nowt much against Portugal when it mattered.
2010....England were all over the shop at that one. Every. Single. Player
I don't like Rooney. At all! I'm one of the main culprits on here giving it socks in terms of giving him grief but, I will defend him on this matter
This is a proof that so called "experience", when the player who is performing isn't good enough anymore, is absolutely pointless.
Yeah fair, was being generous. I've been brainwashed by photos of Steven Gerard screaming a lot and then going mental when Liverpool won.
I've woken up this morning and am seething at the thought of Gerard's abysmal performance. Everyone else who played badly is shit, therefore expected, but Gerard is supposed to be better than Scholes, going off certain media and loads of fans.
and he likes Phil Collins enough to twat someone for not playing his CD.
I've been saying for most of the season - Gerrards value at Liverpool was as a leader and a captain. He was very influential in this respect - but as a PLAYER? No.
Looking at raw technical ability and his skillset, he simply isn't that good. He is a good (not great) long passer and that is about it. When I saw Chile beat Spain it was obvious that all the Chilean players were working their asses off and nobody was being carried - we carry Gerrard far too much. You can't afford to have someone on the pitch with such limited usefulness, especially in a 2-man midfield.
Looking at raw technical ability and his skillset, he simply isn't that good. He is a good (not great) long passer and that is about it. When I saw Chile beat Spain it was obvious that all the Chilean players were working their asses off and nobody was being carried - we carry Gerrard far too much. You can't afford to have someone on the pitch with such limited usefulness, especially in a 2-man midfield.
He's a very English player. He ticks all the boxes for the brain-dead ex-pro pundits like Ian Wright or Clarke Carlisle who can use favourite buzzwords such as; passion, drive, bottle, etc to describe him. But in terms of technical ability he's quite poor vs other top-level midfielders. Carrick, just as Scholes before him, suffered through successive England manager's insistence on putting 'heart on the sleeve' shite over technical ability. If Gerrard had the personality of a Paul Scholes he'd not be near the England team or at least his faults would have been identified sooner. As it is he's Captain Me and does that 'kid trying really, really, really hard at PE' face so everyone assumes how wonderful and marvellous he must be. Similarly if Scholes at Gerrard's 'notice how passionate I am' personality he'd probably have captained the national side for much of the last decade.
Just shows to me how the priorities are all arse about face and have been for years.
I don't buy this idea that Gerrard has never been a good player, but he's definitely never been a good or even decent holding midfielder. In fact, he has a lengthly track record of being the other team's best play maker when he finds himself in that area of the pitch.
It's not the fact he made a horrible mistake or was generally awful all tournament that gets me either, because it's pretty standard for England players in his position to perform consistently badly and somehow be praised for it (Parker, Barry, Lampard).
It's just the fact he plants his face in front of a camera at every opportunity and mouths up crap relentlessly...then goes on the pitch and performs a level below all of his team mates, and isn't man enough to have anything to say after the game. He wants all the attention but none of the responsibility, which makes him about the shittest England captain ever.
He loses his head constantly. Yesterday for example, he was fouling people in frustration, he cost his team the game, then he turned into a selfish tit for the last few minutes. The reason teams need captains is precisely because of idiots like this.
It's not the fact he made a horrible mistake or was generally awful all tournament that gets me either, because it's pretty standard for England players in his position to perform consistently badly and somehow be praised for it (Parker, Barry, Lampard).
It's just the fact he plants his face in front of a camera at every opportunity and mouths up crap relentlessly...then goes on the pitch and performs a level below all of his team mates, and isn't man enough to have anything to say after the game. He wants all the attention but none of the responsibility, which makes him about the shittest England captain ever.
He loses his head constantly. Yesterday for example, he was fouling people in frustration, he cost his team the game, then he turned into a selfish tit for the last few minutes. The reason teams need captains is precisely because of idiots like this.
His ego simply will not allow him to admit he is past it and retire, he will need to be forcefully removed, the arrogant twat
Spot on, I wish you were England manager