Maybe. But doesn't qualify Vermaelen either
And even having brains wouldnt be fruitful when he can't play because he's injured.Stefan de Vrij
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Maybe. But doesn't qualify Vermaelen either
And even having brains wouldnt be fruitful when he can't play because he's injured.Wtf....i know it isn't a official club account....but we're announcing now transfers from other clubs
Are we so desperate??
I would not have either but if it came to a choice I would rather have Vermalen as he might stay injury free. Bruno will never have brainsMaybe. But doesn't qualify Vermaelen either
Wtf....i know it isn't a official club account....but we're announcing now transfers from other clubs
Are we so desperate??
ManUtdstuff is just some dude
Well Bruno Martins Indi is the better defender, De Vrij is the better footballer. Maybe if De Vrij was left-footed we would've taken the gamble with him. Although he is not better than Vermaelen, doesn't really have more potential either. Perhaps he would be fitter though, but Vermaelen would have more experience.
Both BMI and De Vrij found really nice clubs, on paper FC Porto is a bit bigger, with all the Top 20 European club ranking lists and all, but Lazio is roughly the same level for me. Very happy for Feyenoord that they got good money for them and with Kongolo, Matthijsen and Bouhlarouz (lol) they've got some decent defensive options for next season already.
Except for Vermaelen, who was/is at Barbados with RVP, I really don't know who we will bring in. With Keane (looked a tiny bit better than Blackett I think), but mainly with Smalling, Jones and Evans we've got almost all types of right footed defenders, although Evans is the only one who's really good with the ball on his feet. So in that case a left footed player who's very comfortable on the ball makes most sense, if you're a coach that wants different options and all. Vertonghen was offered a new deal by Spurs recently, so I guess it will be Vermaelen. Not too happy with that, but having him as an option in a back 3 is better than in a back 2.
So the question remains, would Arsenal let him go? And who will be our plan B if they don't? But perhaps it's better to discuss that in another topic.
Both BMI and De Vrij found really nice clubs, on paper FC Porto is a bit bigger, with all the Top 20 European club ranking lists and all, but Lazio is roughly the same level for me. Very happy for Feyenoord that they got good money for them and with Kongolo, Matthijsen and Bouhlarouz (lol) they've got some decent defensive options for next season already.
Except for Vermaelen, who was/is at Barbados with RVP, I really don't know who we will bring in. With Keane (looked a tiny bit better than Blackett I think), but mainly with Smalling, Jones and Evans we've got almost all types of right footed defenders, although Evans is the only one who's really good with the ball on his feet. So in that case a left footed player who's very comfortable on the ball makes most sense, if you're a coach that wants different options and all. Vertonghen was offered a new deal by Spurs recently, so I guess it will be Vermaelen. Not too happy with that, but having him as an option in a back 3 is better than in a back 2.
So the question remains, would Arsenal let him go? And who will be our plan B if they don't? But perhaps it's better to discuss that in another topic.
I mean its just some guy tweeting rumours and press stories, and he's tweeting about confirmation that one of the main people we were linked to has signed for another club to put an end to that particular story. Looks pretty sensible to me.
If he was a target it would have been done right after the WC. We have enough young potentail at the right side of the defense. We need experience and/or a good left footed Central Defender
So is RVP bringing him back as excess baggage?
I'd imagine Vermaelan remains a target like you say. Beyond that, possibly Blind could play left side of a back three, as well as wing back and holding midfield. He seems an easy name to link with us because of the connection with van Gaal but you'd imagine his versatility could prove useful. I guess the question is does van Gaal rate him highly enough to pursue?
Well Blind didn't really play much at CB, almost never actually, except for the World Cup. We have enough midfielders at the moment and at left back James looked good (same type as Blind, less experienced and perhaps not as good on the ball, but with a bit more pace), Shaw costing so much it wouldn't make much sense to spend fairly big on Blind.
Wenger could look really stupid if he sold Vermaelen to us, and when he would do really well for us Arsene would get all the slack for letting him go. And for the fee mentioned I think from an Arsenal perspective it's not really a good idea to let an experienced player go, but maybe they've found a replacement for Vermaelen or Vermaelen himself got something to say about his preferences?
Would be fun though if Van Persie arrived at Carrington on his first day back in a truck with a huge ass suitcase, letting some groundsmen break their back when bringing it to one of our new 3 million pound pitches, saying 'tadaaa' in front of the whole group and then opening it with Vermaelen coming out, looking more pale and depressed than ever. Reckon Paddy could make a really 'nice' special about that for MUTV.
Really though LvG fancied this lad
That would be Vermalen out for the season, you don't stuff his brittle limbs in a suitcase, you pack him like a ming vase.
I'm happy we aren't signing him. I don't think he was that good in the World Cup. Vlaar looked a lot better than him in my opinion. Surely we can do better.
It's a shame, like for Strootman signed for 15 million (now worth around 40-45 million)
In 2 yrs De Vrij will worth 30-35 million
In 2 yrs De Vrij will worth 30-35 million
These are unacceptable mistakes, again and again the same mistakes, unbelievable!!!
Nope, De Vrij doesn't have the potential as a defender that Strootman has as a midfielder. And both will not be the best or top 3 in the world on their position, Strootman might reach top 5 but even that remains to be seen. Really hoping Vermaelen or someone else will be a quick fix until a truly (potentially) world class CB comes available. I mean surely LvG is looking at Chelsea and Madrid and the quality they have and wants something like that for United too. I very much hope so, obviously he will be talking a lot about the team being more important than pure quality, but he's no fool either.
Thought this one was nailed on, haven't got a fecking clue which defender we're going to sign now. Probably someone under the radar in typical Utd fashion, makes it more interesting I suppose.
Van Gaal was the guy that brought him into the national side. If he's decided not to go for him, it'll be for good reason. This isn't like Moyes turning down Thiago because he wanted to scout him some more.
I would have liked to add him to our squad for that sum but wait and see who will be signed by LvG. I'm sure he won't go into the season we 3 injury prone defenders for a back 3 with only Blackett and Keane as cover.
Thought we had accepted that signing players off the back of international tournament performances generally isn't the best way to go about transfers.
I trust van Gaal's judgement as he's managed and seen him first hand, but I'm still quite surprised by this. He was excellent at the World Cup, is just 22 and only cost £8.5M. It seems such a logical signing, especially as he's played in a three man defence.
Maybe he was one of the team that refused to take a penalty?
Italian football is in a serious decline, not sure what they can offer him that we can't. idiot.
A bid, I imagine.
Don't worry.
Woodie was just monitoring the situation.
Woodie was just monitoring the situation.
Maybe he bid too low? Was only willing to offer £5m?
And some other club will be thinking why we didn’t buy him then. We do not need another potential centre back. LvG played 3 central defenders because he did not have faith in 2. In the friendly against France prior to the World Cup Holland were taken apart by the French and he decided at that point to use the 3 5 2 formation. In the WC all three looked good because they were covering for each other. In the WC Holland beat Spain and Chile by counter attacking. Against Mexico they only won when he changed from 5 3 2 to 4 4 2 sending Kuijt alongside Huntelaar and playing Robben wide. They could not break down Costa Rico or Argentina. 5 3 2 is basically a counter attacking system. If LvG had the right quality defenders I believe he would play 4 3 3. I cannot imagine in the heyday of Bruce and Pallister or Vidic and Rio that anyone would play 3 central defenders.
In 3 years time de Vrij may be worth 30M but how much Smalling, Jones and Evans would be worth at the same time under the tutelage of LvG
Lazio's new centre-back Stefan De Vrij has denied Manchester United were ever in the hunt to sign him.
The Holland international has moved to the Serie A side from Feyenoord on undisclosed terms.
The 22-year-old, who played in all seven of Holland's matches as they secured third place at the World Cup finals in Brazil, has revealed several clubs were interested in securing his services.
But former Dutch and now Manchester United boss Louis van Gaal did not make a bid for a reunion at Old Trafford.
Speaking at his official unveiling, he told a press conference: "I am very happy to be here in a big club and in a big city.
"Lazio were the only club that showed a real interest in me before the World Cup.
"After the World Cup, I evaluated other options but I received the best feelings from Lazio and I'm happy to be here.
"Several clubs contacted me, I don't think it's fair to say the names. I can say that Manchester United were not one of them."
When asked if he would welcome Aston Villa's centre-back Ron Vlaar joining him at Lazio, he added: "I have played with him since we were 17-years-old, he is a great player and a friend of mine.
"But the choice is up to the president."
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...-never-in-hunt-to-sign-lazios-stefan-de-vrij-
The Holland international has moved to the Serie A side from Feyenoord on undisclosed terms.
The 22-year-old, who played in all seven of Holland's matches as they secured third place at the World Cup finals in Brazil, has revealed several clubs were interested in securing his services.
But former Dutch and now Manchester United boss Louis van Gaal did not make a bid for a reunion at Old Trafford.
Speaking at his official unveiling, he told a press conference: "I am very happy to be here in a big club and in a big city.
"Lazio were the only club that showed a real interest in me before the World Cup.
"After the World Cup, I evaluated other options but I received the best feelings from Lazio and I'm happy to be here.
"Several clubs contacted me, I don't think it's fair to say the names. I can say that Manchester United were not one of them."
When asked if he would welcome Aston Villa's centre-back Ron Vlaar joining him at Lazio, he added: "I have played with him since we were 17-years-old, he is a great player and a friend of mine.
"But the choice is up to the president."
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...-never-in-hunt-to-sign-lazios-stefan-de-vrij-
Thought United and Dortmund both went for him late but he had already agreed presonal terms with Lazio pre world cup, all bollocks then. Or maybe he is talking crap.
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I suspect if United had come in he'd have been here. Especially with Van Gaal in charge.
Maybe but then again some people may value agreements and with clubs and what not. But more chances of not though I agree.
Anyway time to close this thread I guess.
I think that some posters here are right, LVG wanted a player who is able to cover LCB role, maybe even LCB/LWB as Blind. So de Vrij was not really considered. Although i think he is a very decent defender, i liked him at WC and for 5-6M he is an absolute steal.
I don't think van Gaal was a huge fan. Him being right footed probably sealed it.
We don't have a right to sign every good or promising player in the world.
If the manager doesn't think he's good enough for us then I'm glad we didn't sign him.
Is he any better than Tyler Blackett though? Do think three at the back makes defenders look better, Chiles back three for example, as a unit great, individually shite.