If he does that and bombs out two English CB's who are on a par with the Dutch ones he could be asking for trouble. There are fans who would have an all British lineup if they could, all Manchester lads if they could.
Stefan de Vrij
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How has he been at Lazio?
I thought he was ok at the World Cup.
I thought he was ok at the World Cup.
Started badly, then really settled into the team. He is good.
Played 30 games for them, and the 8 games that he did not play Lazio had only won once. Lazio fans thinks he is their best defender and is one of the main reasons they finished in top 3.
I did wonder how long it would be until this fecker got linked to us again, stinks of lazy journalism to me.
I didnt realise they finished in the top 3. Serie A must be really shite these days..
I actually rate de Vrij, but I agree with this. Right footed, not a great passer of the ball and even though he's improving he isn't better then what we have. A complete no-no in my opinion, but hey he's Dutch so we're after him ofcourse..
In the end we may end with players who Louie trusts the most so I wouldn't rule this out just yet.
I remember when he was announced as Lazio player someone wrote that we're making a mistake... at least his passport checks out.
I remember when he was announced as Lazio player someone wrote that we're making a mistake... at least his passport checks out.
Van Gaal wants to buy many dutch players, United should stop this.In Barcelona he bought Cocu, Reiziger, Bogarde, de Boer brothers, Zenden, Kluivert and Hesp. Kluivert, Frank and Cocu had good seasons but the rest did really bad. Nowadays there are still jokes about Bogarde and I don´t even remember Hesp
The press think this, so far he's only brought in Blind and Memphis. An utility man and the best prospect we've had in years. I don't think he'll buy any more, the rest are average or just talented.
Wouldn't be against De Vrij, he has a very calming presence at CB.
If he buys Cillessen will be 3. I don´t want to be disrespectful but I think that Otamendi is better than De Vrij. We all know that Holland produces an amazing amount of talent compared to the size of the country, but my doubt, is he interested in the players because of the talent or because somehow he feels more confident with players of his nationality
Otamdendi is undoubtedly the better player but they're different kinds of players. And the same nationality thing may be as they have played under him for the national teams and will understand the roles he wants them to play, perhaps?
Yes, probably you are right, but in my opinion is too much power in the hands of the coach.
You could very easily be right there.
Another right footed CB to pair with Blind, I'd rather not. If were going for another right footed CB we should go for Stones £20M and send Evans the other way.
What's the point of signing another CB of the same level of the ones we already have?
Is Blind first choice starter as CB now?
You wish, Zlatan.
It certainly looks like LvG has that in mind mate. We're fecked if it transpires that he is 1st choice, but he's better than Jones though - which wouldnt be hard tbh.
I'd have Carrick in there with Smalling if it came to that, but we shouldnt be goin down that route either - we should be buying a top-class CB this window & its piss-poor planning if we dont..
Really?
Because he's better than Jones and Evans for starters, and he has that potential to become a hell lot better just like Shaw is labelled to be the ruler of his position for years to come.
De Vrij is better than Stones though.
Would probably prefer Stones though. I think that he has a higher ceiling (but I might be wrong) and counts as homegrown if we ever need that.
He will get mauled against the big teams, too small and too slow to be a decent CB, good player to have on the bench as he can slot in and do a job in a few positions but that's it.....just buy a dam CB and enough with this nonsense.
De Vrij is not bad at all. Definitely uses his brain unlike I'm very sorry to say poor old Phil Jones. Having said that, am not completely sold on him. Still think we need a bad ass there with not only ability, but loads of confidence.
Agreed, felt it strange seeing posts mentioning that new CB would replace one of the English cbs and that Blind would start.
Unfortunately LVG said in the press conference last night that Blind will be our LCB, and that the RCB position is still up for grabs.
In short, LVG is a bit mental.
Yes, he is.
De Vrij was calming presence in the Lazio back-line and bought stability to the clusterfeck of a defense. He was one of the main reasons why Lazio did so well in later part of season.
Lazio have several options in defense right now. They have de Vrij, Gentiletti, Cana, Novaretti, Mauricio, Hoedt, potentially Radu, and eventually Elez (youth prospect on loan) all filling the position.
However, I don't think they will sell De Vrij. They already sold Ciani and Cana this year. Novaretti will also be sold almost for sure.
Again, those are just links from the English press. The Dutch haven't mentioned any and they have broken the news about Memphis and Blind. Back in the day the Netherlands had great players, at the moment we don't. Blind and Memphis are good additions, de Vrij wouldn't be as he's a RCB for van Gaal- we've got 3 options there already. We're clearly after a ball playing LCB.
Cillessen the same, I don't think he's ready for MUFC and I think van Gaal knows this. He's talented though so that's the only Dutch signing I could potentially see us making if van Gaal doesn't like the look of all the other goalkeepers out there, which I doubt.
De Telegraaf is a terrible Dutch source, they've also linked us to Gaitan and the likes. Voetbal International is worth mentioning since they haven't been wrong and pretty much always are the first if a Dutch player moves to a different club.
I liked him following the World Cup. Haven't seen him since his move to Lazio though.
So basically we are stuck with Jones and Smalling as our RCB options despite both being crap on the ball? and furthermore we'll only be looking at left footed ball players or he'll just proceed with a little, weak, slow player in Blind because he can pass nicely?
Well, they're both not United standard that's for sure..
It seems to, yes
Nope, Rojo will take over from him. You know with time and effort. A thing thats alien to a lot of people on here
I know you seem to post in a confrontational manner all the time and are clearly a glass half full guy, but just a genuine question with no beef intended. Do you really see Rojo being good enough, ever, to be United's starting CB in a title winning team?
I know you post in broad generalizing strokes all the time but with no beef intended I do see Rojo being good enough to do that job. He is more physical than Blind and can play the ball out.
Maybe it was just all the years with Fergie at the helm but until LvG showed up I never gave a single thought to whether a CB was right or left footed or if he could pass like Beckenbauer.
I guess you felt the need to have a dig which is cool, but I actually don't do that, on the other hand you genuinely do seem to always be looking to fight with someone if they are critical of the club. Rojo is certainly more physically equipped than Blind albeit more careless with the ball, I think he has an awful lot of work to do though to become a regular, and that wont be helped by us not having a top senior CB to help guide him.
Both have gotten a new contract, so yes? With McNair as 3rd RCB.
For the LCB we've got Blind and Rojo. The Ramos links show we've went after a clear upgrade and not another CB on the level we already have, which I think is a good thing. Anyways, the transfer window isn't over yet. Lets wait and see what happens.
Couldn't the new contracts just cover us so they don't leave for buttons? I mean neither of them can do what LvG wants, so what is the point?
Ramos is right footed though, so are you saying he'll go with a right footed CB on the left of the central defensive partnership if they have the quality on the ball to play around that weird preference he has?