Television Star Wars -The Acolyte

People who don't like Star Wars just need to stop watching Star Wars. Or at least stop fecking moaning about it.

Or maybe people who have been passionate about Star Wars for a very long time, are seeing the thing they love, slowly being ruined by Disney and their executives. They're constantly making subpar TV shows, which after the dreadful sequel trilogy, is just not acceptable, and many fans of Star Wars are at the end of their tether.
 
Great:
Andor

Really good:
Rogue One

Fine:
The Mandalorian (some of it really good, some bad, which is better than straight down the line Ok)
Solo

Horrid:
The Force Awakens
Ahsoka
Obi Wan-Kenobi
The Book of Boba Fett

So horrible they should pretend it didn't happen and remake it:
The Last Jedi
The Rise of Skywalker

Fixed it for you
 
Disney really need to let Stars Wars die.
This is the right take. The way studios just hang on to certain IP's and try to squeeze every little drop they can out of them is embarrassing.

Plenty of fine fantasy, sci-fi novels out there to adapt.
 
Or maybe people who have been passionate about Star Wars for a very long time, are seeing the thing they love, slowly being ruined by Disney and their executives. They're constantly making subpar TV shows, which after the dreadful sequel trilogy, is just not acceptable, and many fans of Star Wars are at the end of their tether.

I don't know about that. The mystique was already gone for me, who loved Star Wars growing up, before Disney ever came along.

The dreadful writing of the prequels from Lucas really ruined hope and the expanded universe stuff just got really really bad, worse than Disney for me, especially that Vuzong alien invader rubbish. So I already had low expectations when Disney took over. They've certainly had some low points but with Andor and Mandalorian I do have hopes with Favreau. Hoping they do eventually do Thrawn justice but not as confident with how they're introducing him.

I just go into SW stuff as a guilty pleasure now. I don't expect top notch quality and just watch it for the nostalgia and I can enjoy it and not get too annoyed.

On a side note, I am excited for HBO's Dune series which I do have some high hopes for.

@Wing Attack Plan R I read Splinter of the Mind's Eye when I was maybe 10-11 so I don't really remember it much and probably didn't get as much out of it than I would have if I read it a few years later but it was always one of my favorite titles of all time. Maybe I should reread it.
 
Ah interesting about the audiobooks, I didn't realize they had the original cast which is really cool.

Solved this riddle for me: have multiple audiobooks: english versions I have are read by single persons with the one by Marc Thompson being my favorite. But I also have a German version which is read by the original (german) cast. Which was quite good. But the unabridged version read by Marc Thompson would be my preferred choice - and I‘m very picky with audiobooks.
 
Solved this riddle for me: have multiple audiobooks: english versions I have are read by single persons with the one by Marc Thompson being my favorite. But I also have a German version which is read by the original (german) cast. Which was quite good. But the unabridged version read by Marc Thompson would be my preferred choice - and I‘m very picky with audiobooks.

So it's the cast that dubbed the original version? That sounds like the dubbing is good then? I usually try to avoid dubbed versions myself and prefer subtitles but occasionally I find a good dubbed version of something.
 
In football terms, I'd say the Last Jedi was like Nani; inconsistent, but with some great moments and always risky and exciting.

The Rise of Skywalker was like Brazil in that semi-final in 2014 against Germany.

Brazil scored a goal. The rise of skywalker botched the roughly 10000 chances it had to create a moment that was memorable in a good way.
 
Brazil scored a goal. The rise of skywalker botched the roughly 10000 chances it had to create a moment that was memorable in a good way.

Completely agree with the latter sentence, but Babu Frik is as good as Oscar's consolation goal.
 
So it's the cast that dubbed the original version? That sounds like the dubbing is good then? I usually try to avoid dubbed versions myself and prefer subtitles but occasionally I find a good dubbed version of something.
Yep. Very good dub I‘d say. helps of course that one grew up with them so it‘s still pretty iconic to me. But yea, nowadays I avoid dubbed versions at all costs - still want to re-watch og Columbo for that reason.

And now back to Acolytes. :lol:
 
So far after E3 this is Obi Wan/Boba Fett levels of bad without the lightsaber battle/Mando midseason arc on hand to redeem itself, respectively.

I’ll still keep watching, of course; it is my only current hope…
 
It's ok. Passable as a whole, I guess.
Ep3 was kinda boring, though I see the purpose behind it

The first fight in ep1 really was a matrix scene... .

It's one of those, you watch to time pass but will never think about again (unless something awesome happens in the remaining eps)
 
Disney really need to let Stars Wars die.
What they need to do is let it breathe a bit instead of throwing all sorts of shit at the wall, hoping that one gets rave reviews and they can pin their next trilogy on it.

What have they put out since the took over?

Force Awakens
Last Jedi
Rise of Skywalker
Solo
Mandalorian
Boba Fett
Acolyte
Andor
Asokha
Obi Wan
Rogue One
All the cartoon ones

I can only think of Mandalorian, Rogue One and Andor that have been anything resembling good. The rest have been "meh".

They needed to stop with putting out shite that tied in with the Skywalker Saga, either prequel or sequel, and have a new Big Bad with a new Hero and gone from there. There's only so many times you can shoehorn a Skywalker related memberberry into a show before you tie yourself in knots with it.
 
I've not seen Acolyte yet, but I have seen that scene set in the vacuum of space with a crackling fire. fecking madness.
 
I've not seen Acolyte yet, but I have seen that scene set in the vacuum of space with a crackling fire. fecking madness.

There's plenty of noise and silly explosions in the vacuum of space in Star Wars films. This type of criticism would be at the very bottom if not for all the mysoginist and racist claptrap.
 
They are making Rebel Moon look good. Cheap, shitty Netflix Sci-Fi is Disney's competition now and they are losing at it.
 
It's ok. Passable as a whole, I guess.
Ep3 was kinda boring, though I see the purpose behind it

The first fight in ep1 really was a matrix scene... .

It's one of those, you watch to time pass but will never think about again (unless something awesome happens in the remaining eps)
I agree after watching it last night, The problem is they cannot afford episodes like that. Both with the cost of these series and the fanbase already begrudgingly watching and blaming Disney etc for mediocrity. Some fair and some just over the top critiques maybe.

To have a throw away episode or just less interesting one ,to be kinder, is a huge waste. And if there is another one or you don't give a payoff in the end it was money wasted and another thing to add to your pile on of criticism of the brand (Star Wars). More specific to the episode without spoilers. I think the main failing is they aren't giving the characters gravitas, or investing into making the audience care. To me the story beats aren't hitting because you haven't done the writing work to make me care or connect yet with the subjects. These are "new characters" you cannot rely on legacy here. So you have to build in the feeling whether it is hate for the character as a villain or rooting for them as a hero or protagonist. You have to do the work.

Thats whats missing imo so far here. You introduced a bunch of new people make me care one way or another. Then as they fight or, die whatever we are invested.
 
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There's plenty of noise and silly explosions in the vacuum of space in Star Wars films. This type of criticism would be at the very bottom if not for all the mysoginist and racist claptrap.

There is plenty of that in Star Wars fandom, but there is also a significant amount of using misogynistic and racist claptrap to deflect justified criticism from some really expensive yet mediocre work.
 
There is plenty of that in Star Wars fandom, but there is also a significant amount of using misogynistic and racist claptrap to deflect justified criticism from some really expensive yet mediocre work.

Well said, other than I think it's worse than mediocre. The criticisms of modern Star Wars are far more than a few neanderthals upset at seeing a gay/female/POC character. The stories are (mostly) trash, make little to no sense and often directly invalidate events in previous films.
 
Didn't mind the first couple of episodes too much, but the latest one was really poor.
 
I've not seen Acolyte yet, but I have seen that scene set in the vacuum of space with a crackling fire. fecking madness.
Have you seen the scenes in every star wars show where they have instant communication over distances that are lightyears apart or that gravity just works in every space ship with no regard for actual physics or how there is zero time dilation and zero cause and effect issues when they are traveling through space.

but yeh that fire.. crazy
 
There is plenty of that in Star Wars fandom, but there is also a significant amount of using misogynistic and racist claptrap to deflect justified criticism from some really expensive yet mediocre work.
The funny thing is Disney do it themselves! They seem to hate their own fan base, it’s so weird
 
Christ I wasn't expecting much but this is Book of Boba Fett level bad so far. Ashoka was genuinely better and I was bored shitless by that.

Andor was a miracle.
 
Have you seen the scenes in every star wars show where they have instant communication over distances that are lightyears apart or that gravity just works in every space ship with no regard for actual physics or how there is zero time dilation and zero cause and effect issues when they are traveling through space.

but yeh that fire.. crazy
Alright George Lucas, chill out ffs.
 
I agree after watching it last night, The problem is they cannot afford episodes like that. Both with the cost of these series and the fanbase already begrudgingly watching and blaming Disney etc for mediocrity. Some fair and some just over the top critiques maybe.

To have a throw away episode or just less interesting one ,to be kinder, is a huge waste. And if there is another one or you don't give a payoff in the end it was money wasted and another thing to add to your pile on of criticism of the brand (Star Wars). More specific to the episode without spoilers. I think the main failing is they aren't giving the characters gravitas, or investing into making the audience care. To me the story beats aren't hitting because you haven't done the writing work to make me care or connect yet with the subjects. These are "new characters" you cannot rely on legacy here. So you have to build in the feeling whether it is hate for the character as a villain or rooting for them as a hero or protagonist. You have to do the work.

Thats whats missing imo so far here. You introduced a bunch of new people make me care one way or another. Then as they fight or, die whatever we are invested.
Yeah,I think they could have accomplished what they did in less than half the time
Or they could have just had bits of the episode fed in via the first four episodes to tell the story (as flashbacks or similar). The whole episode, it was just dull. I like elements of the first two episodes but as people say, silly fun
 
I think Disney Star Wars was pretty much doomed from this scene onward



Forget any other complaint, who in their spaceballs loving mind thought that Marvel shit was what Star Wars needed. Cinema audibly groaned.
 
Yeah, this will be remembered as the worst SW content ever.
I want to say that it can't be worse than this but.......i am pretty sure Disney can do it.
 
Quite enjoying hatewatching this and watching peoples reviews/reactions. How little thought/effort/care Disney put into a universe and fanbase like Star Wars I find pretty interesting to see.

Just annoying when people blame the diversity/woke angle as if that even registers in the top 100 reasons why this show is bad.
 
Could've condensed that episode into the final 5-10 minutes.
 
There's absolutely no way this show should cost $18m per episode. Parts of it look like a fan film.