Just back from the film, thought it was god-awful. Characters, plot, action....the whole thing dissappointed. About the only think that was still good was the music
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I just watched it a second time (and I hardly ever watch films a second time so soon) and I thought again it was wonderful, especially for Luke Skywalker. As a wise woman said it was everything.
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Saw this today finally. I am a casual fan, so place whatever I say in the necessary context, but I found it pretty underwhelming overall.
Also, noob question, but so is one person writing and directing each film? I saw a headline somewhere recently that this was the most complete SW film, but to me it seemed like a place holder for a resolving 3rd one?
I don't know, I really preferred the last one, and just thought this one was a lot of battles and cringey cheesy crap jokes. And also not enough Rey for me.
Also, as a mid 30s male, who may have wanted to rescue a certain lady from a T-Rex in the summer of 1993, I found Laura Dern incredibly sexy. Complete fox.
The "conflict" that seemed the main theme of the film, wasn't really very tense at all for any of the characters. Seemed pretty obvious how it would all pan out
Also, noob question, but so is one person writing and directing each film? I saw a headline somewhere recently that this was the most complete SW film, but to me it seemed like a place holder for a resolving 3rd one?
I don't know, I really preferred the last one, and just thought this one was a lot of battles and cringey cheesy crap jokes. And also not enough Rey for me.
Also, as a mid 30s male, who may have wanted to rescue a certain lady from a T-Rex in the summer of 1993, I found Laura Dern incredibly sexy. Complete fox.
I’ve been reading on Twitter etc.. that there appears to be a different take on why some feel others do not like this movie. Apparently people are getting accused for disliking the movie because there is too many non-white guys in it.
Now I recall @Mockney alluding to this the other day....
Now I recall @Mockney alluding to this the other day....
Look, if you didn't like it you're either a pathetic grown man obsessing over a children's movie or a racist mysogonist. Time to face facts.
Loved the film. The first half maybe dragged a bit but the second half was exceptionally gripping, beautifully filmed and constantly surprising. I'm amazed at how many twists they managed to land in a blockbuster franchise instalment.
So the First Order is without their best ship and planet destroying weapon, weapons dealers are mostly injured or dead or switching sides to the resistance and there is no supreme emperor (Ren doesn't really care for the Sith or First Order) and the Knights of Ren are more likely to be dead than alive due to their apparent absence from every important conflict?
Any theories what's happening in 9 then?
Any theories what's happening in 9 then?
Good beats grey-area/evil.
I know, i know, going out on a limb here.
Saw it yesterday. It's watchable fluff I suppose.
Whoever thought the words "big-ass doors" were acceptable during the script re-writes should be ashamed.
Whoever thought the words "big-ass doors" were acceptable during the script re-writes should be ashamed.
Saw it for a second time yesterday and really enjoyed it. This was after having mixed reactions after the first viewing.
Haven’t gone through the entire thread, but has it been addressed why Luke is chained to that planet? Want to believe it’s down to him wanting to avoid facing Leia over some deep-rooted guilt rather than a Jedi master being too much of a pussy to face off against the sith.
Still liked Force Awakens more.
Haven’t gone through the entire thread, but has it been addressed why Luke is chained to that planet? Want to believe it’s down to him wanting to avoid facing Leia over some deep-rooted guilt rather than a Jedi master being too much of a pussy to face off against the sith.
Still liked Force Awakens more.
I guess once he put the X - wing at the bottom of the sea he didn’t have much choice.
Just use the force to lift it out. Might need to air it out for a few days until it dries. Or he could have hopped on the Falcon with Chewie and Rey.
I'm happy so many people enjoyed this film, allthough I enjoyed it, just about, I wanted and expected something a lot better and I was convinced it'd get slammed in the reviews.
The reviews are paid for by Disney. They pay critics from loads of media outlets to give them favourable reviews.
It's true though. Disney ask lots of prominent critics for good reviews in exchange for money. Critics are also grateful for invites to premieres and early screenings.
Some proof would be nice. I guess their cheques got lost in the mail for John Carter.
Catch the whole movie here:
Sums up a lot of the bad stuff.
But you have to be careful, or those of higher intelligence will come back to defend the masterpiece.
This is why I hate the internet. People just get to throw out completely baseless accusations like this and other gullible people believe them.
This is why I hate the internet. People just get to throw out completely baseless accusations like this and other gullible people believe them.
The Guardian reported on this matter.
This is why I hate the internet. People just accuse other people of saying fake things and throw out completely baseless accusations like this and other gullible people believe them.
Despite the guy who did that video being the most annoying guy on the planet, he is right in a lot of the things he says. To be honest, some of it seems like picking flaws for flaws sake (especially some of the continuity stuff, when in reality who the feck cares?).
Some other points he makes are utterly ridiculous, like building ships for the sole purpose of hyper-driving through other ships (as with Phasma's armour for all stormtroopers).
Still though, i'm glad to see other people disliked the film. I had so many mates that really liked it that I started to wonder whether I was just missing the trick a little.
Some other points he makes are utterly ridiculous, like building ships for the sole purpose of hyper-driving through other ships (as with Phasma's armour for all stormtroopers).
Still though, i'm glad to see other people disliked the film. I had so many mates that really liked it that I started to wonder whether I was just missing the trick a little.
There are posts on this thread suggesting that if you didn't like the film you're don't like "proper star wars films"
The Guardian reported on this matter.
This is why I hate the internet. People just accuse other people of saying fake things and throw out completely baseless accusations like this and other gullible people believe them.
Post The Guardian's piece on it then, because their own film critics have described it as conspiracy theory nonsense.
The Guardian reported on this matter.
This is why I hate the internet. People just accuse other people of saying fake things and throw out completely baseless accusations like this and other gullible people believe them.
Still waiting on that proof.
The fresh rating or the reviewer score for Fury Road? They're not the same thingJust got back from the movie and I thoroughly enjoyed it! I am biased because I have loved Star Wars since I was 5 years old watching the original in the theatre.
While I would have done a few things differently and I personally dislike when Disney throws 2017 pop culture references into science fiction movies that take place "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" overall it was a very fun Star Wars movie that succeeds with its target audience - families.
I think some old timers like myself have this expectation that Star Wars would grow up with us. But it never will. We aren't going to see a truly dark Rated R wicked intense Star Wars movie (at least not anytime soon). So even if I personally would love if Star Wars was rated R and as gritty as Game of Thrones that would just be an unreasonable expectation on my part.
I also can't take any critics or user review sites seriously especially that silly Rotten Tomoatoes site. I stop visiting that site when I saw how overrated that Fury Road movie was. Only movie I actually walked out of the theatre after paying good money because I felt the plotholes and world building were so flawed and illogical I couldn't stand sitting there finishing that bad movie. But apparently Rotten Tomateoes thought that movie was Citizen Kane level
Yeh I've no doubt that's true and standard practise for the industry, I'm more surprised by the general publics reviews!
It is brilliant. I know that you can do some type of brutal review for pretty much every Star Wars movie, but by far, the plot of this movie was the most ridiculous one. The more I think about this movie, the worse it becomes.
Time to relegate it at the same level with the first two prequels, who anyway had better plots.
There it is, the moment this thread jumped the shark.
What?!
Wait also why was Justin Theroux in it for about 15 seconds?
This film wasn't perfect, but as a Star Wars hardcore fan I came out of the cinema smiling and really enjoyed it tbh. Sure there were a few moments that were a bit silly, but when it was good it was great. I actually really enjoyed what they did with Luke in this film. When you look at the actions of every Jedi in every movie (including Prequels (sigh)) they all make mistakes and do stupid things with good intentions. Yoda told Luke he had to kill Vader without even letting Luke know he was his father, that is pretty fecked up no? If Yoda had his way Luke would have killed Vader and would have never known he'd just killed his Dad. Obi Wan was arrogant and thought he could train Anakin despite being a young Jedi, he failed, he also didn't tell Luke about Vader. Luke however in the Originals was a perfect character, sure he made mistakes like facing Vader in ESB but it was done with good intentions, he never made a decision that was controversial. What we saw from Luke in this film was he is just as flawed. He feared Ben and we all know what Yoda used to say “Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.” That's precisely what happened with Luke, he feared Ben which led him to a brief taste of the Dark Side (but stopped himself) but that action caused Ben to embrace anger and the rest is history.
Which is kinda silly since he held up faith with the 2nd most evil villain in the Universe, risked his life and put it all on the line, in order to turn him back to the light. A man who had killed billions (I believe that planet with the rebel base). His student has a few dark thoughts and he tries to kill him. Right...........Also if they expanded on Kylos descension to the darkside and showed more progression into Luke's fall from grace, it would help. Just go from one extreme to the other was rubbish.
I proper belly laughed at the Rey parentage reveal and gave an even bigger laugh when they killed Snoke. I've been listening to a Star Wars podcast for the last two years and I had this picture in my heads of their poor saddened faces at the realisation that they'd had the rug pulled out from under them. They were even discussing the idea that some characters in the recent Battlefront game could be Reys parents. I mean seriously...
What both me and my sister discussed for the hour long drive back yesterday at midnight was the direction the films could go for Ep9. It's really difficult to work out what will happen given the lack of clues, all we know is that there's going to be an internal power struggle in the First Order as General Hux and Kylo Ren have been enemies for a while. Then we've got potential hint that Ep9 could be set several years in the future and be focused around the next generation of Rebels. The whole idea of Ep8 was the passing of the torch to the new Generation, so i'd be surprised if we had a definitive ending like we had in ROTJ. Strikes me as Ep9 will reinforce the message of Ep8 and leave us with a rebuilt Rebel Alliance taking on Kylo Ren who's developed into the next Sith Lord.
I find it hard to accept that any film can be as bad as the prequels, but yeh, the more I think about in and watching that review, makes me think it does belong in the same category.
I think if Star Wars wants to continue as any kind of serious on-going story, this film has to be deleted from cannon. There's so much stupid shit going on, it removes any kind of believability from the universe.
The production value is all that saves it really.
That this film - all things considered - is as bad as the first two prequels. The plot is weaker, there are so many ridiculous things (or even plot-holes), and the humor is just as pathetic. The only thing that saves the movie is the cinematography.What?!
I hope that this Guardians of the Galaxy in Star Wars universe ends. Or I am done with this universe.
The first two prequels had really shit acting, pathetic writing and even worse humor. However, the main story there was decent and for most part was coherent.
The main story in The Last Jedi...the less we talk the better.
I would be really happy if they make some space magic shit and put the sequels in some new canon, separate from the other Star Wars stories. Even the old canon - as ridiculous as it was post-Thrawn - was probably better than this.