Television Star Trek

First two episodes were ok and I guess set the scene to show the new characters, start of the war etc. Just watched the 3rd episode and hooked. Was freakin' brilliant!!!
 
I really enjoyed the first two episodes. Reminded me of how much I'd missed Star Trek, and how amazing the Star Trek universe can be. Didn't take long to get going either, very strong start with a handful of characters who already seem full of intrigue. Really looking forward to episode three on Netflix tonight.

Going forward, I hope Netflix somehow takes over production from CBS. The only slight niggle I had during viewing was the frequent black screen, where I'm guessing CBS would insert the adverts.
 
I really enjoyed the first two episodes. Reminded me of how much I'd missed Star Trek, and how amazing the Star Trek universe can be. Didn't take long to get going either, very strong start with a handful of characters who already seem full of intrigue. Really looking forward to episode three on Netflix tonight.

Going forward, I hope Netflix somehow takes over production from CBS. The only slight niggle I had during viewing was the frequent black screen, where I'm guessing CBS would insert the adverts.
Haven't had any black screen issues myself. No spoilers but it's very good and can see where they're taking it (and why it's called discovery...not a spoiler!)
 
I liked many things from the first two episodes I have to say, wish Yeoh was staying on as a regular character because she is great.
 
Can't stand how fecking dark it is.

Yeah I noticed that as well.

That said, the 2nd and 3rd episodes suggest the plot is gradually improving. The CGI however is still just so hillariously cartoonish. Let’s see where this goes.
 
That episode was kinda dark- I liked it. Still not keen on the lead though, her character of fallen hero who likely finds redemption by saving the day just seems cliche. That said, we haven't even got to know any of the other characters so I guess the lead must be doing something right as I've enjoyed every episode so far. Also what's with the super annoying roommate? Is she doomed to become the hero's only friend and then be killed off?
 
That episode was kinda dark- I liked it. Still not keen on the lead though, her character of fallen hero who likely finds redemption by saving the day just seems cliche. That said, we haven't even got to know any of the other characters so I guess the lead must be doing something right as I've enjoyed every episode so far. Also what's with the super annoying roommate? Is she doomed to become the hero's only friend and then be killed off?
I agree. Since the pilot episodes i found Michael very annoying and it didnt stop there. The perky roommate is just a way to lighten the mood (i'm guessing) and i think you've called it. They'll get close without the audience ever realising, because it wont be properly explored, and then she'll die for Michael to be like "why does everything i love die?! This is tearing me apart lisa!"

I realised something after watching the pilot again. Star Trek TOS/TNG couldnt exist in the modern world. While i would enjoy exploring the ideals of future humans more, i doubt theres a audience for that. Anything like that, in the modern age, would be seen to be far too cheesy and not peak any interest. DS9 was the first trek that actually pushed those ideals but did it in a clever way to keep in line with the Trek principles without crossing it. From what i've seen so far this is more in line with DS9 than anything else.
 
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Thought episode 3 was pretty decent.

That science officer is annoying as feck though.
 
That episode was kinda dark- I liked it. Still not keen on the lead though, her character of fallen hero who likely finds redemption by saving the day just seems cliche. That said, we haven't even got to know any of the other characters so I guess the lead must be doing something right as I've enjoyed every episode so far. Also what's with the super annoying roommate? Is she doomed to become the hero's only friend and then be killed off?
You prefer if they actually kept her in jail for life? ;)

Think the captain is going to be an interesting character and agree the roommate thing is kinda annoying after just one episode - hoping that will change though. They've already killed off a nu
Thought episode 3 was pretty decent.

That science officer is annoying as feck though.
I thought data was annoying as feck to start with...
 
I had a low bar sure but this is way above my expectations so far.
 
Just started watching the 1st episode.

That opening scene is decent <generic space adventure> but terrible terrible Star Trek.

She does not sound like a Vulcan in her dialogue and her panic.
How the feck can the ship see the star they make by walking when the com is down?
Radiation dried a pond is a specially bad low for technobabble because there are far more plausible ways to explain it, and you'd think they would have taken some care over technobabble in the opening scene.

At least it looks good so far and the music is nice.
 
She's not Vulcan. She's a human brought up on the planet Vulcan, who then goes through a massive emotional trauma in episode 1.

I like her flawed character. The contours that outline her personality are fuzzy and difficult to define. She's far more cinematically drawn out than the average Star Trek protagonist.
 
I agree. Since the pilot episodes i found Michael very annoying and it didnt stop there. The perky roommate is just a way to lighten the mood (i'm guessing) and i think you've called it. They'll get close without the audience ever realising, because it wont be properly explored, and then she'll die for Michael to be like "why does everything i love die?! This is tearing me apart lisa!"

I realised something after watching the pilot again. Star Trek TOS/TNG couldnt exist in the modern world. While i would enjoy exploring the ideals of future humans more, i doubt theres a audience for that. Anything like that, in the modern age, would be seen to be far too cheesy and not peak any interest. DS9 was the first trek that actually pushed those ideals but did it in a clever way to keep in line with the Trek principles without crossing it. From what i've seen so far this is more in line with DS9 than anything else.

If its anything like ds9, it'd be class. In the Pale Moonlight was one of the best episodes in all of trek.

 
She's not Vulcan. She's a human brought up on the planet Vulcan, who then goes through a massive emotional trauma in episode 1.

I like her flawed character. The contours that outline her personality are fuzzy and difficult to define. She's far more cinematically drawn out than the average Star Trek protagonist.

Are they fuzzy? So far she seems your a-typical brilliant yet arrogant protagonist who thinks they know best until a traumatic event makes them see that their arrogance was misguided. Throw in an emotionally horrible event in childhood that shaped her arrogance and drive and voila- you have a sci-fi lead.

Honestly, so far I think she is pretty much a cliche. I'm hoping that will change and she won't go down the route I expect (redemption through selfless heroism). I hope she remains a closed off dick and fecks up more often in all honesty. Her remaining an outsider would be great and completely unexpected.
 
Pilot episodes were a JJ Trek movie. 6/10 for action/entertainment. The sciene officer* is an ok character, didn't care for the rest.

Started the 3rd episode now.

I have a question: in previous Star Trek I don't remember them dealing much with prisoners of the Federation. (I haven't seen Enterprise).
But a penal colony? "We've brought in the garbage"? "Feed these animals"?
The one thing from Trek prisons that I remember was the opening scene of Voyager, when Janeway visits Tom Paris, who I think was arrested for similar crimes as the captain here. That was a leafy garden in New Zealand with no physical restraints visible.

Is there something I'm missing?

Edit: Tom got 18 months for joining the Maquis (treason), she got life for a failed mutiny? Racial disparities in sentencing! But seriously, that is not a thing Starfleet would do AFAIK.

*First officer from ep 3 onwards
 
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Discovery's central mission is a really interesting one, so it's a shame that we already know it ultimately fails (assuming that canonical reality doesn't prove inconvenient).

I can see this doing well but I still wish they hadn't made it a ST series. Perhaps it's dated for 2017, but I rather liked seeing a positive, hopeful imagining of our future society.
 
Discovery's central mission is a really interesting one, so it's a shame that we already know it ultimately fails (assuming that canonical reality doesn't prove inconvenient).
The more i watch the more i wish they went 50 years after Voyager. It has everything that could have really worked in the future;
  • A new way of travel thats unlike transwarp drive
  • A more militarised Starfleet which could have happened after the Dominion war. This would have lead to exploring old trek vs new trek, maybe draw parallels to modern society. Hell bring Picard back for a cameo if ratings start to suffer!
  • New technology
Its annoying that they're setting up this universe when we know what happens. Klingon war concludes, their experiments into faster travel fails, etc... I know people will say its about the journey but i would have preferred something that's new to us, and by the looks of it so did the fans.
 
She's not Vulcan. She's a human brought up on the planet Vulcan, who then goes through a massive emotional trauma in episode 1.

I like her flawed character. The contours that outline her personality are fuzzy and difficult to define. She's far more cinematically drawn out than the average Star Trek protagonist.

I thought she's a half and half ?
 
I thought she's a half and half ?
Nah, her parents were human and died on some station by the Klingons. Some Vulcans were pillaging and took the kids as slaves but then realised that wasnt cool so Spocks dad raised her as his own
 
Nah, her parents were human and died on some station by the Klingons. Some Vulcans were pillaging and took the kids as slaves but then realised that wasnt cool so Spocks dad raised her as his own

Ahh right ok. BTW...I don't quite buy this new Sarek with the slight NY accent.
 
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She's not Vulcan. She's a human brought up on the planet Vulcan, who then goes through a massive emotional trauma in episode 1.

I like her flawed character. The contours that outline her personality are fuzzy and difficult to define. She's far more cinematically drawn out than the average Star Trek protagonist.

Yup, I had assumed she was based on the trailer I think. In that case her outbursts and general tone make more sense.
 
If she’s not Vulcan then how can she pull off the death grip ?
She couldnt. Thats why the captain got up after 2 minutes. I actually liked that part, because while humans can learn it they arent very effective at it due to their strength.

I'm sure that was mentioned in TOS or TNG
 
She couldnt. Thats why the captain got up after 2 minutes. I actually liked that part, because while humans can learn it they arent very effective at it due to their strength.

I'm sure that was mentioned in TOS or TNG

I always thought it was some sort of energy that was unique to Vulcans.
 
I always thought it was some sort of energy that was unique to Vulcans.
ST:ENT touched on it with that neural pressure thing in season 3. Gentler and it relieves pressure/tension but harder and it leads to discomfort. I'm guessing more pressure leads you to pass out.
 
Nah, her parents were human and died on some station by the Klingons. Some Vulcans were pillaging and took the kids as slaves but then realised that wasnt cool so Spocks dad raised her as his own
Wait so Sarek is Spock's dad? So that means when she says that she was in Vulcan with a human and her son she means Spock and her mother?

I thought this was supposed to be some 50 odd years before the TOS.
 
Wait so Sarek is Spock's dad? So that means when she says that she was in Vulcan with a human and her son she means Spock and her mother?

I thought this was supposed to be some 50 odd years before the TOS.
Nah its 10 years before TOS.

I suspect they'll pay the fans "service" at some point and she'll drop into conversation: "my brother SPOCK". Whilst looking directly into the camera and giving a thumbs up.
 
Nah its 10 years before TOS.

I suspect they'll pay the fans "service" at some point and she'll drop into conversation: "my brother SPOCK". Whilst looking directly into the camera and giving a thumbs up.

What are the odd there's an occasional Enterprise cameo within the Discovery series with a young Kirk/Spock etc (using the movie actors from the recent reboot).
 
If Daniel son isn't Japanese,how can he do the crane...It's all about technique. Wax On, wax off

See my above post. I wasn't aware it was some sort of massage technique. Always thought it was some sort of unique energy that Vulcans had that when they pinched you would knock you unconscious.
 
The more i watch the more i wish they went 50 years after Voyager. It has everything that could have really worked in the future;
  • A new way of travel thats unlike transwarp drive
  • A more militarised Starfleet which could have happened after the Dominion war. This would have lead to exploring old trek vs new trek, maybe draw parallels to modern society. Hell bring Picard back for a cameo if ratings start to suffer!
  • New technology
Its annoying that they're setting up this universe when we know what happens. Klingon war concludes, their experiments into faster travel fails, etc... I know people will say its about the journey but i would have preferred something that's new to us, and by the looks of it so did the fans.

They could have introduced new aliens aswell. We already know the klingons will lose this war.
 
See my above post. I wasn't aware it was some sort of massage technique. Always thought it was some sort of unique energy that Vulcans had that when they pinched you would knock you unconscious.
I've tried it on both my kids and they both wriggle in agony for a few seconds. Granted I use minimal force. I am seriously joking by the way...