Television Star Trek

Exactly!

Aliens shouldn't look like humans with a skin condition.

The point of a cartoon is that you can illustrate anything you want, without needing to worry about the difficulty of filming it.

The fact a live-action, non-human species can look 'unreal' is a good thing.

Theres a reason everyone looks basically the same. Its in a next generation episode in season 6 called the chase. Its rather good.
 
Good video, thanks. Although, it seriously rained on my excitement for the franchise going forward.

Yeah it sort of underscores the clusterfeck the franchise has been through with the Viacom/CBS issue, the CBS All Access v Netflix global issues, as well as the general incompetence surrounding the production of Discovery. Let's hope the new Picard series makes up for some of the silliness.
 
There area all sorts of continuity/timeline problems with the new Klingons. They are supposed to exist around the time of the TOS and well before TNG but they look far more advanced than both. I like my Klingons to look, behave, and talk like Worf.
Maybe they got westernized by the federation. :rolleyes:
 
There area all sorts of continuity/timeline problems with the new Klingons. They are supposed to exist around the time of the TOS and well before TNG but they look far more advanced than both. I like my Klingons to look, behave, and talk like Worf.

They wont get it, they've only seen the movies. And the last few movies hardly had any klingon apart from worf!
 
I've begun watching Deep Space 9 based on this thread. Liking it so far. Dax is really hot.
 
Dont be a dick. He just started watching it. Do you like it when people spoil things for you?

Oh sorry, I really wasn't. Edited. I don't think it's a spoiler. Just as a bad guy they're built up to be quite the menace, and they just turn out like any other rubber faced Star Trek baddies. Similar to how Voyager ruined the Borg.
 
Oh sorry, I really wasn't. Edited. I don't think it's a spoiler. Just as a bad guy they're built up to be quite the menace, and they just turn out like any other rubber faced Star Trek baddies. Similar to how Voyager ruined the Borg.

And they dont turn up for 2 seasons. So ya know. But no biggie, solved now. Or at least it will be once I edit my quote post :D.
 
Great episode

Yeah, I just got done rewatching the next generation and there was far more great episodes than I remember in there. I’m a big ds9 fan though, and I’ve rewatched that series quite a lot so it was a little weird seeing the beginnings of some plots and races starting out on the next generation and being just a wee bit different. Like the bajorins being called the bajori, or being a nomadic race rather than one that was enslaved. Still good though to see a little bit more back story.

Think it might have another’s binge of ds9 myself actually. In the mood for it now.
 
Yeah, I just got done rewatching the next generation and there was far more great episodes than I remember in there. I’m a big ds9 fan though, and I’ve rewatched that series quite a lot so it was a little weird seeing the beginnings of some plots and races starting out on the next generation and being just a wee bit different. Like the bajorins being called the bajori, or being a nomadic race rather than one that was enslaved. Still good though to see a little bit more back story.

Think it might have another’s binge of ds9 myself actually. In the mood for it now.

I watched most of season for on the hangovers between drinks this weekend. As you say, a lot of good episodes which you forget about. There's the sort of classic 20 (All Good Things, The Inner Light... ect), but there's so many more. It's probably as dated now as ToS was when Next Gen came out, but just a great cast and characters. Hope they make it work for Picard.
 
I watched most of season for on the hangovers between drinks this weekend. As you say, a lot of good episodes which you forget about. There's the sort of classic 20 (All Good Things, The Inner Light... ect), but there's so many more. It's probably as dated now as ToS was when Next Gen came out, but just a great cast and characters. Hope they make it work for Picard.

I wonder if we’ll see anyone else in the new Picard show. Won’t see data of course, but b4 with some of that Hollywood magic to make spiner look young enough again might work. And worf has got to turn up. That dude was just everywhere, funny as hell seeing him pop up in the movies like ‘I was just passing by’ even though he’s stationed on the other side of quadrant at the time :lol:.

As for tng looking dated, I thought it would as well but the HD make over really helped. It still looks dated, but not as dated as it might with out all the reworked effects. I’d say it was ahead of its time the same as tos was. Themes of gender and sexism that are headline grabbing now for example.

Spoilers for ds9 below.
still think ds9 was way ahead of the game when they did the episodes about the federation reacting to the dominion. The way the federation started tightening its grip on its own citizens, security checks, paranoia etc because of the outside threat. Only thing missing was calling it the patriot act.

I can’t think off hand of any really truly great voyager episodes. I didn’t really like it to be honest. Janeway was alright and the doc of course, but the rest of the cast just didn’t make me care about them like tng or ds9. And they most definitely missed a trick with that show. It could have been something truly amazing considering the blank canvas they had to work with in an unexplored quadrant. I think Moore had said he had wanted to do something with it that was serialised and not really episodic. But the higher ups knew better of course. Luckily he went on to use his ideas in battlestar galactica.

All in all, it amazing how spoiled for good sci-fi on tv we were back then. The late 80s early 90s seems to have good stuff everywhere. Now it’s mostly dog shit with a stand out every now and again, but it gets cancelled too quickly. If I knew then what I know now, I would have savoured it more. Got my fingers crossed with the streaming services coming into their own, that good sci-fi can be a thing again like it was back then.
 
Theres a reason everyone looks basically the same. Its in a next generation episode in season 6 called the chase. Its rather good.

It was an interesting episode, although I'm not sure if I buy the reasoning for why everyone looks the same. Seems more like the writers were attempting to buy themselves a bit of suspension of disbelief leeway by doing that.
 
Recommend an episode:

Series: Enterprise

Episode: Regeneration

 
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It was an interesting episode, although I'm not sure if I buy the reasoning for why everyone looks the same. Seems more like the writers were attempting to buy themselves a bit of suspension of disbelief leeway by doing that.

In reality Id say the amount of evolutionary drift brought about by environmental factors alone would make sure we looked nothing alike. But for the sake of explaining away the 60s established "everyones a human but with a funny forehead", I think it was as good as we were going to get without getting bogged down in it.
 
I wonder if we’ll see anyone else in the new Picard show. Won’t see data of course, but b4 with some of that Hollywood magic to make spiner look young enough again might work. And worf has got to turn up. That dude was just everywhere, funny as hell seeing him pop up in the movies like ‘I was just passing by’ even though he’s stationed on the other side of quadrant at the time :lol:.

As for tng looking dated, I thought it would as well but the HD make over really helped. It still looks dated, but not as dated as it might with out all the reworked effects. I’d say it was ahead of its time the same as tos was. Themes of gender and sexism that are headline grabbing now for example.

Spoilers for ds9 below.
still think ds9 was way ahead of the game when they did the episodes about the federation reacting to the dominion. The way the federation started tightening its grip on its own citizens, security checks, paranoia etc because of the outside threat. Only thing missing was calling it the patriot act.

I can’t think off hand of any really truly great voyager episodes. I didn’t really like it to be honest. Janeway was alright and the doc of course, but the rest of the cast just didn’t make me care about them like tng or ds9. And they most definitely missed a trick with that show. It could have been something truly amazing considering the blank canvas they had to work with in an unexplored quadrant. I think Moore had said he had wanted to do something with it that was serialised and not really episodic. But the higher ups knew better of course. Luckily he went on to use his ideas in battlestar galactica.

All in all, it amazing how spoiled for good sci-fi on tv we were back then. The late 80s early 90s seems to have good stuff everywhere. Now it’s mostly dog shit with a stand out every now and again, but it gets cancelled too quickly. If I knew then what I know now, I would have savoured it more. Got my fingers crossed with the streaming services coming into their own, that good sci-fi can be a thing again like it was back then.

Good post. Actually watched Drumhead last night, which feels eerily relevent today.
 
I have no idea about Startrek but Brexiters sound like ferengi to me while I've seen more creativity in the borg collective then in LVGs team
 
I have no idea about Startrek but Brexiters sound like ferengi to me while I've seen more creativity in the borg collective then in LVGs team

Brexiters are closer to Klingons, strong sense of tradition coupled with hatred and mistrust of other races/cultures. Ferengi were space Jews.
 
Brexiters are closer to Klingons, strong sense of tradition coupled with hatred and mistrust of other races/cultures. Ferengi were space Jews.

It depends, the elite who use the will of the people to make a quick buck (ex Rees Moggs etc) are Ferengi. The rest are more like Romulans (ie xenophobic coupled with hatred and mistrust who refuse to evolve to a more logical Europeans) and tend to use devious tactics to get what they want. But hey what do I know about Star Trek.
 
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It depends, the elite who use the will of the people to make a quick buck (ex Rees Moggs etc) are Ferengi. The rest are more like Romulans (ie xenophobic coupled with hatred and mistrust who refuse to evolve to a more logical Europeans) and tend to use devious tactics to get what they want. But hey what do I know about Star Trek.

Apparently more than you were originally letting on, you sneaky bugger :lol:.
 
https://press.princeton.edu/titles/13224.html


In Star Trek, crew members travel to unusual planets, meet diverse beings, and encounter unique civilizations. Throughout these remarkable space adventures, does Star Trek reflect biology and evolution as we know it? What can the science in the science fiction of Star Trek teach us? In Live Long and Evolve, biologist and die-hard Trekkie Mohamed Noor takes readers on a fun, fact-filled scientific journey.

This guy taught me :lol:
 
I can’t think off hand of any really truly great voyager episodes. I didn’t really like it to be honest. Janeway was alright and the doc of course, but the rest of the cast just didn’t make me care about them like tng or ds9. And they most definitely missed a trick with that show. It could have been something truly amazing considering the blank canvas they had to work with in an unexplored quadrant. I think Moore had said he had wanted to do something with it that was serialised and not really episodic. But the higher ups knew better of course. Luckily he went on to use his ideas in battlestar galactica.

Voyager really was fairly weak compared to TNG and DS9, but it had a few cracking episodes, two of my faves being:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blink_of_an_Eye_(Star_Trek:_Voyager)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_(Star_Trek:_Voyager)
 
Their is a star trek thing at the NEC in a few weeks. I was thinking it might be a fun day out till I saw the prices... £29 per adult to get in... £65 to get a picture with Bill Shatner
 
I really enjoyed the first series. I have a week off and was looking forward to binging the second, but they're only doing one episode at a time :(
 
Did y'all know Ancelotti had a cameo in Star Trek Beyond (2016)? :lol: