Solskjaer's legacy and his future

wolvored said:
Ole thought after the dismantling we had by Liverpool we were "so close". Thats why he wouldnt offer to leave and Woodward was just a cnut.
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Dismantling by Liverpool 2-4 last season or this season? To me, that 4-2 loss at Old Trafford, though we pretty much secured 2nd place by then, showed that we're not getting anywhere under Ole.

In the state club is atm I think we can get back to winning trophies only if we get lucky with next manager, like Liverpool did with Klopp. No way our board would ever do business like City do and lure someone like Pep with their whole club organisation and structure.
 
BorisManUtd said:
Dismantling by Liverpool 2-4 last season or this season? To me, that 4-2 loss at Old Trafford, though we pretty much secured 2nd place by then, showed that we're not getting anywhere under Ole.

In the state club is atm I think we can get back to winning trophies only if we get lucky with next manager, like Liverpool did with Klopp. No way our board would ever do business like City do and lure someone like Pep with their whole club organisation and structure.
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He said it after the 0-5
 
The worst it's been and his legacy will set the club back at the least 3 years, in reality it could be much worse. He's tarnished his legacy whether or not he was a good player for us.
 
I started to think that Ole's "success" (Top 4 in 2 seasons and all those Finals) were down to the genius of McKenna and/or Carrick (who showed excellent tactical nouse on those 3 games in charge).

His subs, the way he treated players, and his buyings didn't reflect he's the "genius" behind the scene.
 
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Imagine Ole's Tenure if Bruno didn't have the magic when he came

Its only then you realise how bad Ole Really was
 
redcorner said:
Imagine Ole's Tenure if Bruno didn't have the magic when he came

Its only then you realise how bad Ole Really was
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Ole buys players to compensate for his weakness as a coach. That's not a recipe for sustained success.

It's a "tactic" that only works if you are PSG in France.
 
Soskjaers managerial legacy is horrific.

He sanctioned the signings of Wan-Bissaka and Maguire. Donny never got a look in. Diallo and Pellistri look a world away from breaking into the first team. His signings up front consisted of an over the hill Ronaldo, Cavani and Ighalo. Bizarre given this 'youth, courage, success' adage forced down our throats. Not a single bit of forward planning, just short term 'fixes'.

Even Bruno, who most would agree was his most successful signing, there are now huge question marks over, and his ability to not only impact big games, but his ability to reign himself in and keep hold of the ball. I seem to remember that was a concern prior to us signing him.

He didn't have a clue how to get a tune out of Sancho.

An awful, awful manager and we'll be fixing the issues he's caused in this squad for a few years.
 
Angers me that he hid behind this cultural reboot rubbish and his media mates also backed this idea but the real reality is he has set us back by at least another 5 years, the development of so many players has gone backwards under him, he has created the worse mentality and toxic behaviour towards the club from players post fergie and has left our squad in a worse state with over expensive flops that will be tough to shift, clinging onto average footballers and overseeing a great deal of players stock plummeting or being able to walk for free.

As bad as mourinho was he at least had high standards with players and didn't cling on to players if they weren't delivering.
 
Lee565 said:
Angers me that he hid behind this cultural reboot rubbish and his media mates also backed this idea but the real reality is he has set us back by at least another 5 years, the development of so many players has gone backwards under him, he has created the worse mentality and toxic behaviour towards the club from players post fergie and has left our squad in a worse state with over expensive flops that will be tough to shift, clinging onto average footballers and overseeing a great deal of players stock plummeting or being able to walk for free.

As bad as mourinho was he at least had high standards with players and didn't cling on to players if they weren't delivering.
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The word "standards" is key here actually. Ole himself - not a crime being not good enough. But what always angered me is the willingness of a large part of our fanbase, media and owners to lower the standards SPECIFICALLY for Ole in the name of "atmosphere", "forward-looking-transfer policy", "bringing back the good feeling", "squad building" (as it becomes even more clear now how lame those excuses are some are even starting to argue that those were not Ole's signings and apparently he has done well given that the board signed all those crap players lol).

Jose has done better than Ole results-wise. He has left a squad with problems that were much more "fixable" and the pandering/overpayment/spoiled/unhappy players were not such a big issue as after Ole. Yet nobody says things like "Jose made a good account of himself" and everyone laughs at him naming 2nd place with United his biggest achievement - and absolutely correctly so, he was a failure! Yet Ole gets praised for doing worse. Judging managers so differently just because one of them is a former United man is damaging for the club. I really hope we are over this now.
 
The damage his reign has done to the club can't be understated.

We are probably in a worse spot now than we were in 2014 after Moyes was sacked.

It might take us 2-3 seasons to fix this mess.
 
Eddy_JukeZ said:
The damage his reign has done to the club can't be understated.

We are probably in a worse spot now than we were in 2014 after Moyes was sacked.

It might take us 2-3 seasons to fix this mess.
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The top reds can feel proud of themselves for supporting him till the very end though, and that's what really matters
 
Maguire
Wan Bissaka
Over-glorification of Rashy
Letting JLingz still be here
Cavani
Ronaldo

Nothing helped the club. Nothing.

He did well with the little coaching ability he had. But fecked us up for a long long time. Not his fault though, he brought a smile to young Rashy’s face.
 
Nickelodeon said:
Maguire
Wan Bissaka
Over-glorification of Rashy
Letting JLingz still be here
Cavani
Ronaldo

Nothing helped the club. Nothing.

He did well with the little coaching ability he had. But fecked us up for a long long time. Not his fault though, he brought a smile to young Rashy’s face.
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Wan Bissaka was the best RB in the world according to some though.
 
As I said, he ruined Donny and he ruined the club. Massive tool of the Glazer cronies.
 
Eddy_JukeZ said:
The damage his reign has done to the club can't be understated.

We are probably in a worse spot now than we were in 2014 after Moyes was sacked.

It might take us 2-3 seasons to fix this mess.
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You might mean "overstated".

We all love Ole as a human being and for his incredible service as a player, but as a manager the damage he did to the club was considerable.
 
Damn, how failed Cardiff manager fecked us is something.
Needs another banner "Thank you Ole". But from City and Liverpool fans
 
Eddy_JukeZ said:
The damage his reign has done to the club can't be understated.

We are probably in a worse spot now than we were in 2014 after Moyes was sacked.

It might take us 2-3 seasons to fix this mess.
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…. and someone still believe United is one man only :lol: Personalisation of United never ends.

The whole system needs a change from top to bottom.
 
Eddy_JukeZ said:
The damage his reign has done to the club can't be understated.

We are probably in a worse spot now than we were in 2014 after Moyes was sacked.

It might take us 2-3 seasons to fix this mess.
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100%. Worst modern era United manager by a mile. His damage still rots the club to the core
 
Left us in a worse state then when he took over, all after spending huge amount of money.

And people really said Ole is building a good squad.
 
Polar said:
…. and someone still believe United is one man only :lol: Personalisation of United never ends.

The whole system needs a change from top to bottom.
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"His reign" can symbolize more than 1 person to blame.

The entire club can be blamed for his reign. It has set us back years and didn't lead to any progress.
 
lex talionis said:
You might mean "overstated".

We all love Ole as a human being and for his incredible service as a player, but as a manager the damage he did to the club was considerable.
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No it's understated.

"describe or represent (something) as being smaller, worse, or less important than it actually is.
"the press has understated the extent of the problem"
 
Shut up you lot. He’s not responsible for anything more than any other manager we’ve had. We’re up against the very best teams in the world at the top of the premier league and the champions league is always incredibly tough. The players simply haven’t responded to Rangnick from day one which means that next season we need a different type of manager, one that can reshape the club. And that manager is Ten Hag, none of the other candidates have what we need.
 
Moyes, Van Gaal, Jose, and Rangnick all unable to get a tune out of United under this ownership. Klopp took one meeting and laughed us out of the room. Pep met Fergie and still had no interest in working here.

Yet it's the club legend people pick to shit on every chance they get.

The club is rotten from top to bottom. The manager is just the patsy in the firing line.
 
Eddy_JukeZ said:
No it's understated.

"describe or represent (something) as being smaller, worse, or less important than it actually is.
"the press has understated the extent of the problem"
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In American English, we would say "overstated" in this context. For example:

"The damage Ole has done cannot be overstated." That sentence would make perfect sense in the US, but perhaps not in the UK.

The following sentence "The damage Ole has done cannot be understated." would make no sense to the ear of an American.
 
I wonder how we'd have done if we did the smart thing and sacked him after the Villarreal final loss, which should've been the absolute latest time to do it considering the terrible football.
 
He's destroyed this football club, I knew the damage he did and was doing at the time but it's even worse then I possibly could have imagined.

It will take years to recover from his reign
 
Oh wait it’s another round of defending Ole’a feel good atmosphere, I guess we can close the thread anytime soon now that there’s a common agreement we shouldn’t never criticize a club legend for being absolutely inept and installing the losers mindset here

Can’t fecking believe the state he left us in.
 
It was never this bad under any other manager post fergie. The Ole era ended in our lowest point in decades. I blame it mainly on the players, but unlike Ralf, Ole is actually responsible for assembling the current group. Fergie saw through player's personalities and wasn't just after skill. You look at this group and you know in your heart that Ole fecked up big time. He's still a legend to me, but fecking hell, what else to say.
 
Red Star One said:
Oh wait it’s another round of defending Ole’a feel good atmosphere, I guess we can close the thread anytime soon now that there’s a common agreement we shouldn’t never criticize a club legend for being absolutely inept and installing the losers mindset here

Can’t fecking believe the state he left us in.
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Where's the defending?
 
Ole assembled the players and gave them instructions on how he wanted them to play. It would difficult to overstate how poor his management was, the effects we see to this day, long after he left the club in shambles.
 
Wayne's World said:
He's destroyed this football club, I knew the damage he did and was doing at the time but it's even worse then I possibly could have imagined.

It will take years to recover from his reign
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Absolutely, but ironically he is also the man responsible for one of the happiest nights of my life as a United fan. Such is life as a football fan.
 
Seeing Fletcher booked today as the first technical director to ever be booked tells you all you need to know about the structure of this club. Rotten!
 
Kopral Jono said:
Absolutely, but ironically he is also the man responsible for one of the happiest nights of my life as a United fan. Such is life as a football fan.
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His tenure was the best moments we have had since Alex.. Rashford , Martial was firing ..Bruno was firing .. we hit teams for 9 goals , we were a goal keeper kick away from Europa ..
this season he didn't perform good .. but thats another story..
 
Redcafe is burning while he is swimming in all that sack money, props to him. Wasting time and money can happen to anyone, his biggest impact is standards dropping among fans.

Before he became a manager, word winner was used to smack all kinds of potential managers, managers that didnt win titles were mocked and marked left right center. Suddenly after his hiring, when fan base saw that winning anything is to hard for him, complete shift, winning became non important, people didnt mind us getting knocked out in cup semis at all, vs the likes City, hell some even spinned it was good for us, "bigger fish to catch" in rest of the season, clear progress they said haha, fecking shameless.
 
Wayne's World said:
He's destroyed this football club, I knew the damage he did and was doing at the time but it's even worse then I possibly could have imagined.

It will take years to recover from his reign
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You are correct. Shame on us fools who believed he was building something here. It's a terrible squad with hopeless future.
 
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