Solskjaer's legacy and his future

@Rhyme Animal what are these many managerial openings? Relegation dogfights at Watford or Everton?

Can’t help but feel you’ve just created a loaded thread to have another dig at the bloke. He’s a United legend so no idea why.
 
OleGunnar20 said:
Agreed, he gets way too harsh a rap in my opinion. I think he'd do well at a middling sort of club who showed some patience.

I always found it uncomfortable how he was constantly slapped with the Ole Ole Ole I love you shite while Lamps and Arteta did equally bad if not worse yet and yet were given way more leeway.

I think he'd do well to stay away from managing in England, for the foreseeable at least.
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Given you're the biggest club in the country I'd argue he got it incredibly easy compared to what he would have got by the media and especially fans at your equivalents on the continent (Juve, Bayern and especially Real).

Your fanbase especially showed incredible patience all things considered.
 
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Surely the OP knows why, and is looking to start some sort of Ole civil war where everyone's at each others throats.

There's no interest because he's utter shite.

  • He wastes money - Maguire and Wan Bissaka
  • He doesn't coach - he's acknowledged this himself. He leaves the coaching to others.
  • He's unable to turn things around when things go south - was never able to get on top of things and address our weaknesses from set-pieces
  • Doesn't develop players - Dalot now looks a serious player. How many players actually improved under him?

And to top it all off, the players that he does trust, he runs into the ground.

That's why.
 
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Maybe this should just be merged into the Solskjaer's legacy thread, if it's still open, given we're going round and round that old ground in circles.
 
If you had been managing United for a few years and were let go after seeing your dreams crushed, would you really take another random PL job a few months later? C'mon.

He's probably not pushing particularly hard to get any of these jobs.
 
TheReligion said:
yeah I’m struggling with the lack of common sense being applied here. Ole finished top 4 back to back, 3rd and 2nd.

Am I missing something here?
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Read above. He spent a fecking fortune on an already ridiculously expensive squad. Nothing in his time with us suggested he knew how to build a team outside of scattergun spending, and nobody outside Russia/Israel/wherever he's hiding now could or would support that.

City and Liverpool could give him a squad to get top 4, but they expect more.
Chelsea would actually be a fit, and Lampard was basically their Ole.
None of the other top 4 challengers could give him the money he would need, and without that money he would be nowhere near other managers.
 
I'm sure some PL teams will be chomping at the bit to install "the United way" at their club?

On a nicer note, I reckon he will manage a mid-table club in the future again.
 
11101 said:
Read above. He spent a fecking fortune on an already ridiculously expensive squad. Nothing in his time with us suggested he knew how to build a team outside of scattergun spending, and nobody outside Russia/Israel/wherever he's hiding now could or would support that.
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You said he’s not good enough to push for top 4?

You’re factually incorrect
 
marktan said:
The biggest thing people will be looking at is that stint at Cardiff, where he was really bad. He'll likely need to go to a smaller club like in the Championship or abroad and do well there before he gets considered for any of the lower-end PL teams.

Frank despite not being great at Chelsea did well at Derby so he has that credit in the bank to work from.
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Derby did better and went farther into the playoffs without Lampard before he was manager. Ole did far, far better at United than Lampard did will Chelsea.

I'd say Ole is a better manager that Lampard.
 
11101 said:
Read above. He spent a fecking fortune on an already ridiculously expensive squad. Nothing in his time with us suggested he knew how to build a team outside of scattergun spending, and nobody outside Russia/Israel/wherever he's hiding now could or would support that.
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Manchester United spent a fortune on transfers, not Ole. Unless you think Ole himself did all the scouting, all the negotiating, and has the only say in transfers.
 
Pintu said:
That’s on top of a team already worth around 800M and that finished second the year prior to his appointment.
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And as it stands right now with around 6-7 players on the verge of leaving and midfield badly neglected.

There is no evidence he has left anything but a toxic dressing room and massive investment still needed.
 
Do people seriously think any team will risk alienating their fanbase to further risk on an unproven manager?
 
Dancfc said:
Even if that were true (it isn't) he then lead them in a division they won comfortably the last time they were in it and got sacked with the team 18th in the league.
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Speaking of things that are not true they were 17th not 18th as you claim but of course that is splitting hairs and as I mentioned before I am not claiming Ole is some great managerial mind. I do think the context is frequently ignored when his time at Cardiff is discussed however specifically with the timing of his sacking. 17th sounds terrible but they were 7 games into the season which is hardly representative of how the final table will look and even after his departure only managed to finish in 11th. He managed them for a total of 30 games including cups which amounts to just over half a season in total. The biggest issue he had at Cardiff was naivete, he was trying to completely change the style of play to something more akin to his own experience at United and for a team like Cardiff that is a process that would take years, not a matter of months.
 
Ole's a good manager, and will land on his feet in some guise around Europe.

Lampard will get linked with most vacant PL jobs mainly because he's English and a media darling.
 
James Peril said:
Couldn’t disagree more! The man was protected for his entire stay, right up to the point it was miles beyond over. His competence was never questioned, he stayed on for free even though the club was doing incredibly bad. Contrary to your opinion, he was protected by the media and former players for being nice and sweet, unlike Mourinho and the likes who get no favors.
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Protected by the media? :lol:
 
Utd heap said:
I mean if you don't rate him then fine, have your rant. But some to actually despise / have some kind of vendetta against him.

It's Ole FFS!
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Yeah the level of hatred some seem to have for a former player and a club legend at that is bizarre.
 
stevoc said:
Yeah the level of hatred some seem to have for a former player and a club legend at that is bizarre.
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How is it hatred to call him a shit manager?

Outside the new manager bounce after Mourinho left he has been a poor manager for us. He almost got the sack before Bruno joined, and once Bruno went off the boil a bit he actually did get the sack. That coupled with Cardiff, it's not hatred to suggest the reason he's not going to get another job in the PL is that's he's not a very good manager.
 
Gandalf said:
Get to coach Haaland again you mean, he had him at Molde.
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I'm sure Ole taught 11 to 14 year old Erling all he knows. Who played for Bryne back then.
Edit: Nevermind, I forgot Ole coached Molde twice.
 
I'm quite happy with what Ole did - but I feel like he can only do the same thing for other clubs with alot of money and maybe even playing for them/fan of them.
 
Gandalf said:
That Cardiff team was doomed with or without him but regarding top 4 you are actually completely wrong. He had two full seasons and finished third and second so in fact he proved he is good at getting top 4. Facts don't care about your feelings.
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why would you ruin a perfectly good post with that stupid last sentence?
 
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