No one tell him where we placed in the league last season.
Solskjaer's legacy and his future
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No one tell him where we placed in the league last season.
Poeple are really desperate to put themself into these manager corners. I mean who the feck cares, they all failed.
are you just well..kinda obtuse about the whole thing? cos a lot will actually start to make sense. You do know how sentences work. His accomplishments didn't end at coming 2nd. He matched Ole there then surpassed him elsewhere. Finish reading next time.
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Thanks, It's almost like there are different opinions coming from different posters on a forum with thousands. Regardless of varying opinions on the various squads the reality even the biggest fanboys can all agree on is both guys failed relative to what they had. That's how they both ended up sacked. How do we spend 500m and talk about the state of the squad like it doesn't reflect poorly on the manager that spent it. Talk about catching one's self in a loop of excuses.
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So the Watford team that battered United recently was better than our current squad?
Jose’s United never got humiliated.
Bearing in mind this was over a year ago, look at the teams that were beating us. His comments after Bournemouth beat us, are actually worse than anything Moyes said. If any other manager said that they’d be done there and then
Hang on a bit. I am confused. I thought Ole was our manager and not our DOF?
So he had a team that would run rings around the team LVG and Jose had but he won feck all? LVG and Jose won trophies with much lesser teams so aren't they much better coaches than Ole?
So he had a team that would run rings around the team LVG and Jose had but he won feck all? LVG and Jose won trophies with much lesser teams so aren't they much better coaches than Ole?
Have you been watching Fred under Rangnick? Almost a different player, no not because of that goal he scored but his general play.
I actually agree with this, Ole brought in some excellent players like Sancho, Bruno, Varane and Ronaldo, but as a squad, they haven't achieved anything yet, Jose left a squad that actually won 2 trophies.
The league position point is silly though. One more win and we'd have been 6th the same as when Jose was sacked so it has little or no relevance. Mourinho left a worse squad and atmosphere around the club that's mostly what people are referring to when they say Solskjaer left the club in a better place.
Yeah my only post on the forum yesterday, how many posts did you have in this thread alone?
Fred and Mctominay have both shown signs of improvement under Rangnick, to be fair. Remains to be seen whether they can continue improving and find consistency, but great if they can.
No it was relevant to the post I was replying about Jose leaving the squad in a worse deconstructed state or similar words to that effect.
I'll be honest I'm kind of in 2 minds about whether to reply this stuff but man, quit with the internet point counting. You were reading the thread, how many times you clicked reply doesn't take anything away from who you might be off the internet. If there was a game yesterday we'd all be here. It's not like everyone's culture even does Christmas.
Is there a single person on this planet that doesn't know that LVG and Jose are miles better coaches than Ole?
His legacy is leaving us in a shitty place struggling for top 4. Rangnick is going to have to perform immediately in order to get top 4.
All this stuff about resting culture and intangibles are just horse shit.
All this stuff about resting culture and intangibles are just horse shit.
What does that make your posts then?
I don't think so according to a lot of people here.
This whole thing is really confusing. Jose and LVG winning trophies with a shit squad is much worse than Ole not winning anything with a much better squad?
RR has to work miracles to get us into the top 4. Arse and Spurs are on the roll.
What Ole brakes, nobody can fix. Absolutely amazing how shit job he did in last 3 years.
But if i must point at one thing (which would be his biggest mark) it would be;
Buying Harry Maguire for 80 million and making him a captain
But if i must point at one thing (which would be his biggest mark) it would be;
Buying Harry Maguire for 80 million and making him a captain
If you are a Man Utd manager, you must:
1) Every day say the word "DNA" 20 times
2) Not park the car on Saf's spot
3) Talk about club's history every day
4) Remind fans every day how YOU have scored goals for United
5) Smile a lot
Do that and you are golden.
Well I mean he did.
I'll be honest I'm still struggling to see what the relevance of us sitting 2 point's off 6th at the time of Solskjaer's sacking is but whatever.
Apparently Solskjaer needed to go because he was an amateur coach holding back a World Class squad but now that's he's gone the narrative has changed to he left a poor squad. The truth as is often the case is somewhere in between I suspect.
You seem to have misunderstood. I didn't mean take a day off from posting I meant it's Xmas take a day off moaning about Solskjaer.
Out of interest does your culture ''do Christmas'''?
We had a more functional team when Mourinho left.
ole left ralf a squad that should be able to beat newcastle. thrashed newcastle himself at the start of the season. might be hard for some of you guys to hear.
He made us tough to beat, but we had trouble scoring.
People don't seem to care about the functionality of the team though, they care about individual ratings on Fifa when assessing our squad. If we go by that then we do indeed have a better group of players now (who'd have thought spemding £400m would achieve that?) but if we look at the team he's left, it's a shambles.
I mean...who built the team? Even our summer signings. Did you see how Ronaldo, Sancho and Varane perfromed tonight?
and I say this with all due respect, sorry, not really your concern. Sorry, don't know you well enough. Since we now have some understanding let's not derail this thing anymore.
I'm not sure picking individual games will help your argument.
I mean this is also a team that got thrashed by Watford and we weren't even anything special in that Newcastle game.
ole left ralf a squad that should be able to do better than that performance today. there isn't a single thing you can say that is going to help your argument there
Yeah, this is another lost cause.
feck his legacy as a manager and feck everyone that uses our current shit situation to look back and big up their guy Ole, Jose, LvG, Moyes. They all are bunch of failures and got sacked for a reason, they left with coffers full money on top of it.
Someone should make a thread where you can rate and place in order post SAF managers, make sure your fav doesnt end up below Moyes...oh wait.
Someone should make a thread where you can rate and place in order post SAF managers, make sure your fav doesnt end up below Moyes...oh wait.
This. Exactly this!
He sure left one of the most dislikable bunch of players I can remember behind.
Calm down. When/if Ralf gets the sack. he'll say exactly the same thing.
And he would be right, if Ralf is sacked, it will be for a reason. They all failed, not really seeing how anyone would disagree?
Tag me if you gonna call me on something, i will say same thing what exactly?
Ironic given that we were sold a narrative whereby he brought sunshine and happiness into the club, and everything was incredibly positive and likeable.
Are they suddenly bad players?
Yeah ok mate fair enough. I myself have to know someone for at least 5 years before I tell them whether or not I celebrate Xmas, 3 years for Easter and 18 months for Haloween. I haven't yet trusted anyone in my life enough to tell them I celebrate Pancake Tuesday and I probably never will.
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But will all of them get "thank you" (for being a disaster) banner?And he would be right, if Ralf is sacked, it will be for a reason. They all failed, not really seeing how anyone would disagree?